In reply to Chris Zell's message of Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:02:36 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Lemme get this straight, you wanna build fusion reactors to make gasoline?
OK, so economic development isn't always linear. Maybe if you reduce energy
inputs to nearly zero cost, the other costs of labor
we will shortly conquer fusion
Next question is, what do you do with it, once conquered? How do you make
energy portable or put fusion in a car?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Chris Zellchrisrz...@yahoo.com wrote:
we will shortly conquer fusion
Next question is, what do you do with it, once conquered? How do you make
energy portable or put fusion in a car?
Mr. Fusion?
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:When two wrongs make a right -- oil and nuclear
The difference between us is that I believe we will shortly conquer
fusion,making it available as an energy source.
Is fusion
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:40:46 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:When two wrongs make a right -- oil and nuclear
The difference between us is that I believe we
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:27:52 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Chris Zellchrisrz...@yahoo.com wrote:
we will shortly conquer fusion
Next question is, what do you do with it, once conquered? How do you make
energy portable or put fusion in
Lemme get this straight, you wanna build fusion reactors to make gasoline?
OK, so economic development isn't always linear. Maybe if you reduce energy
inputs to nearly zero cost, the other costs of labor and equipment still give
you cheap gasoline.
But first the minor hurdle of achieving
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:36 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote
I was going to use that! :(
The early bird gets the worm; but, the second mouse gets the cheese. :-)
Terry
Subject: Re: [Vo]:When two wrongs make a right -- oil and nuclear
In reply to Lawrence de Bivort's message of Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:16:47
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Someday, I imagine, humankind will rue having burned oil for fuel,
realizing
that it was far more valuable as material feedstock for plastics than
reason is the reason why we should be conserving oil for feedstock
purposes, rather than fuel.
No?
Lawrence
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From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:When two wrongs make
On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
Hi, Robin,
Agreed that carbons can be used to make carbon compounds. But, as
you point
out, there is non-trivial the matter of energy consumed in the
process and,
I would add, the non-trivial matter of economics.
There is a reason
From: Lawrence de Bivort
Hi, Robin,
Agreed that carbons can be used to make carbon compounds. But, as
you point out, there is non-trivial the matter of energy consumed
in the process and, I would add, the non-trivial matter of
economics.
There is a reason we aren't making carbon-based
I wrote: It is notable that we *can* make feed stocks from CO2 using
algae and sunlight:
http://www.oilgae.com/
Unfortunately, most of the CO2 producing plants are in the north.
One solution might be to pipeline CO2 south. Probably more sensible
to build new hybrid plants in the south
engineering and cost analyses.
Language is an odd and limited tool, isn't it, when trying to describe
reality.
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:When two wrongs
In reply to Lawrence de Bivort's message of Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:16:47 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Someday, I imagine, humankind will rue having burned oil for fuel, realizing
that it was far more valuable as material feedstock for plastics than it is
as fuel. It may be our children who come to realize
Someday, I imagine, humankind will rue having burned oil for fuel, realizing
that it was far more valuable as material feedstock for plastics than it is
as fuel. It may be our children who come to realize this, and they may
wonder why their parents and grandparents didn't realize it and why they
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