In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:59:56 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Well Harry, I've done my best. I have nothing more to contribute.
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a
Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:35:43 -
0400:Hi,
Ok, I
This link is for Harry;
Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm
Doesn't sound like anything is ever going to be powered by it.
Ron
--On Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:28 AM +1100 mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
At 06:20 PM 10/13/2009, Ron Wormus wrote:
This link is for Harry;
Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm
Doesn't sound like anything is ever going to be powered by it.
Ron
Yeah. Persistent Current
Ok, I guess it is necessary to distinguish between a capacitor, a
battery and an EMF. Both a battery and a capacitor can produce a
current for a _limited_ period of time, whereas an EMF can produce a
current for an _unlimited_ period of time.
With that in mind, let me refine the question. Can a
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:39:47 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
The electrons must be recirculated in order to maintain a steady
current. If an electric field is the same as an EMF, then the electric
field must form a closed loop, otherwise electrons would pile up at the
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a
Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:52:54 -
0400:Hi,
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:20:00 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
The 'positive' in between is what makes the equations work out. I
think you
are having a problem because you expect the net EMF to integrate to
zero (begin
point = end point), which it would do if you take
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:52:54 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
The complete circle/loop/circuit is this:
'negative' to 'negative' (with a 'positive' in between).
The 'positive' in between is what makes the equations work out. I think you
are having a problem because you
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder hvee...@ncf.ca
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire
Carrying a Constant Current
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29,
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:54:07 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Yup, but that is not what bothers me. I have been unable to
consistently apply the concept of an _electric field_ around
a circuit with a steady current without it ending in a
contradiction.
harry
That's because
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a
Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:54:07 -
0400:Hi,
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