Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:59:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] Well Harry, I've done my best. I have nothing more to contribute. - Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:28 pm Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-15 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:28 pm Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:35:43 - 0400:Hi, Ok, I

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-13 Thread Ron Wormus
This link is for Harry; Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm Doesn't sound like anything is ever going to be powered by it. Ron --On Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:28 AM +1100 mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:20 PM 10/13/2009, Ron Wormus wrote: This link is for Harry; Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm Doesn't sound like anything is ever going to be powered by it. Ron Yeah. Persistent Current

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-12 Thread Harry Veeder
Ok, I guess it is necessary to distinguish between a capacitor, a battery and an EMF. Both a battery and a capacitor can produce a current for a _limited_ period of time, whereas an EMF can produce a current for an _unlimited_ period of time. With that in mind, let me refine the question. Can a

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:39:47 -0400: Hi, [snip] The electrons must be recirculated in order to maintain a steady current. If an electric field is the same as an EMF, then the electric field must form a closed loop, otherwise electrons would pile up at the

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-01 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:09 pm Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:52:54 - 0400:Hi,

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-10-01 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:20:00 -0400: Hi, [snip] The 'positive' in between is what makes the equations work out. I think you are having a problem because you expect the net EMF to integrate to zero (begin point = end point), which it would do if you take

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-09-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:52:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] The complete circle/loop/circuit is this: 'negative' to 'negative' (with a 'positive' in between). The 'positive' in between is what makes the equations work out. I think you are having a problem because you

correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-09-29 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Harry Veeder hvee...@ncf.ca Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current - Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com Date: Tuesday, September 29,

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-09-29 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:54:07 -0400: Hi, [snip] Yup, but that is not what bothers me. I have been unable to consistently apply the concept of an _electric field_ around a circuit with a steady current without it ending in a contradiction. harry That's because

Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current

2009-09-29 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:51 pm Subject: Re: correction /Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:54:07 - 0400:Hi,