Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct?

2009-01-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:41:30 -0900: Hi Horace, [snip] > >On Jan 16, 2009, at 7:55 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> There are various theories that describe the motion of the electron >> in the >> Hydrogen atom. Since each of these theories obeys t

[Vo]:OT swear words (was Re:Gas-deprived European nations)

2009-01-17 Thread Michel Jullian
Looking up your "by gum", which I had never heard before, I came across a nice web page where I was delighted to learn the hidden meaning of this and other such expressions, such as Blimey (god blind me) or Heck (hell). Some others do an even better job at concealing their meaning, I wouldn't be s

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia blacklists LENR-CANR.org

2009-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
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Re: [Vo]:OT swear words (was Re:Gas-deprived European nations)

2009-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
Michel sez: > Looking up your "by gum", which I had never heard before, I came > across a nice web page where I was delighted to learn the hidden > meaning of this and other such expressions, such as Blimey (god blind > me) or Heck (hell). > > Some others do an even better job at concealing their

Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct?

2009-01-17 Thread Jones Beene
Robin, It would be interesting to know "how many" valid theories there are. By "valid" that would mean a mathematical model which is predictive of major physical properties that the other model is not, AND which predicitions are then validated by observation. Using that as a guideline, Mills mo

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia blacklists LENR-CANR.org and NET too

2009-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Krivit wrote: > > I suppose it would be fair to inform you that I have been aware for a few > weeks that user JxG, (Guy Chapman from the U.K.) blacklisted both of our > sites on Dec. 18. > Is that so? It is unimportant. > Yours, I think, was upgraded (by JzG's encouragement) to an inter

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia blacklists LENR-CANR.org

2009-01-17 Thread Steven Krivit
Terry, Which one is your ip? Steve At 06:55 AM 1/17/2009, you wrote: Delivered-To: hohlr...@gmail.com Received: by 10.65.110.6 with SMTP id n6cs72790qbm; [snip]

Re: [Vo]:Change.gov submission now at 360

2009-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jan. 17 at 15:00 score: 410 comments: 13 This is probably within 500 from the top, making it visible to many people. I have not checked many times today but I do not think the score dropped. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia blacklists LENR-CANR.org

2009-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
My machine address would not show on a webap mailer; however, Google can verify a valid recipient of a message. Terry On 1/17/09, Steven Krivit wrote: > Terry, > > Which one is your ip? > > Steve > > At 06:55 AM 1/17/2009, you wrote: > > Delivered-To: hohlr...@gmail.com > > Received: by 10.65.

[Vo]:Wikipedia, Sci. Am., DoE etc. cannot deal with controversy

2009-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: "I must confess that I use Wiki (Oink-Oink-Piki!) a lot. It's a quik invaluable informational resource for NON CONTROVERSIAL subjects." Sure. I use it too. And I still subscribe to Scientific American, which is right about a lot of things. Most institutions fail to

Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct?

2009-01-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:38:25 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] >Robin, > >It would be interesting to know "how many" valid theories there are. If one thinks of each model as a set of three dimensional wave patterns, then there are probably quite a few more than we have alr

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship

2009-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hear, hear. Wikipedia, the DoE and many other institutions have failed to deal with cold fusion, and probably many other subjects too. We don't know how many others, because they have been suppressed. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct?

2009-01-17 Thread Michel Jullian
You mentioned the "wave particle duality". There is no duality in reality, particles are particles, it's some function determining the probability of their being somewhere which is a wave, isn't it? What first suggested to me that this duality didn't exist was Feynman's introduction to QED: "I wa

Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct?

2009-01-17 Thread Jones Beene
Ah Michel, This kind of discussion usually resolves to the imponderable: "what is real?" IOW - at what point does "behaves like" become "is". And if that is not enough - one of our ex-presidents (well, make that X-presidents), expressed it this way "what is the meaning of is?" Unless you know

Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct?

2009-01-17 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Michel Jullian Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:52 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct? > You mentioned the "wave particle duality". There is no duality in > reality, particles are particles, it's some function determining the > probability of their bei

Re: [Vo]:Are they all correct?

2009-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On 1/17/09, Jones Beene wrote: > And to make it worse, this "isness" debate was no deep epistemological > discourse... more like a shallow intercourse ;-) Which is the best I can accomplish at my age. :-) Terry Photosynthesis, smell and awareness: http://discovermagazine.com/2009/feb/13-is

Re: [Vo]:Wikipedia, cold fusion, and censorship

2009-01-17 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: Hear, hear. Wikipedia, the DoE and many other institutions have failed to deal with cold fusion, and probably many other subjects too. We don't know how many others, because they have been suppressed. Brilliant Jed. The question is how can we stop it. More to the point,