Dear Friends,
An especially informative issue of my newsletter:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2012/01/informavores-sunday-no-490_15.html
Thank you for reading it!
Peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
what is the problem,
he control nothing in fact.
senate is controlling what he does,
and lobbies control the senators with cash for campaign...
it is well known that business run US, and that is the secret of it's
economic power.
it works. at least for the business.
:-
2012/1/15
defkalion does not pretend 6 month long continuous test...
They make much more realistic pretention on their site. forget the detail,
but seems like they run tests as one should expect, many differets design,
start and stops...
by the way white lies in business are common, and does not imply
AG,
Thanks for this much more detailed summary! I was being too tired when I
wrote mine... Should have waited over night.
Some thoughts of mine on the interview and Rossis statements:
The thing which interests me (also in the context of the probable
quiescence problem as mentioned by Jones
Just another point from the interview:
Rossi has admitted that last year they had peaks even when the reactor
should just produce about 120C°. This problem seems to have been
resolved (because of NI), so no more peaks. Besides that NI is
especially helping in the problem of getting the
Wolf,
Heard you got a question into the program. Well down.
I think Rossi is dead right on the pricing structure. This way he will
make it very difficult for another FPE device to get into HIS market. If
he sells at a higher price then there is enough fat to allow another
competitor to
Wolf,
With a reactor temp around 600 deg C and the coolant at 120 deg C there
is a wide operational margin. As the coolant temp get to 450 deg C it is
only 150 deg C below the reactor temp. A lot less fat to play with. I
would speculate there is a much higher chance of a runaway and Ni powder
O.K Rossi says he will star to deliver domestic E-cats in September or
after it. The 1,000,000 Ecats
will be very cheap because robots will make them.
The factory is in Florida - perhaps somebody has seen it? Or is it hidden?
If it is/will be the result of something called *investment *then the
This is like asking anyone would buy a Data General Supernova
minicomputer in 1979, knowing that in a few years personal computers
would become available with far better price/performance ratios.
Analogies like that don't apply. Early computers were expensive but there was
no alternative. Yes,
Yamali,
450 deg C E-Cats 1 MW industrial plants are not 60 deg C 10 kW home
E-Cats. You can use just about any coolant at 60 deg C. At 450 deg C you
are talking about molten salts. Whole different set of engineering
challenges.
The home E-Cat is probably just a squashed version of the
450 deg C E-Cats 1 MW industrial plants are not 60 deg C 10 kW home E-Cats
You're right, of course. I thought we were talking about the 100 C thing in the
shipping container. Where can I find specs for a 450 C version?
On 12-01-14 09:40 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com mailto:sa...@pobox.com wrote:
These prices are just plain silly.
He's going to manufacture furnaces for the home for $500 each.
Sure he is, like I really believe that...
On the contrary, it is quite
Although just a kid, I remember being outraged at the Indy 500 committee
for handicapping turbines after Parnelli Jones nearly won in 1967 with his
turbine car.
http://www.autopuzzles.com/Indy1967.htm
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:23 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Jed Rothwell's
Report from the World Sustainable Energy Conference 2012 in Geneva,
10-12 Jan 2012
Thanks to the invitation of conference chairman Gustav Grob, Francesco
Celani and I, representing the International Society for Condensed
Matter Nuclear Science, had the opportunity to introduce the state of
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
Report from the World Sustainable Energy Conference 2012 in Geneva, 10-12
Jan 2012
Thank you for your report, Haiko. I find it quite amusing that Celani
began his career in CF intending to disprove the findings. I was
This is counting the grandchildren before any grandparents were born
-- lofty cloudbanks of vaporware...
within mutual service, Rich Murray, the pragmatic skeptic
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
Report from the World Sustainable Energy Conference 2012 in
by the way Rossi's remark that the device can only do house heating,
is not so true.
with hot water storage like we have for electric water heater, heating
150litter at 60C when electricity is at night price,
it could be simple to use e-cat, and even more easy, because you don't have
to wait for
here it won't be burned gas turbine, but recycled vapor turbine...
clearly downsizing is not evident... but maybe it is possible...
noise should be much lower, and no problem with throttling if the car is
hybrid.
evacuation of heat is not trivial also, because on car most of the heat is
Gas is the operative term. It is the expanding gas that makes internal
combustion the best choice for most transportation. Steam engines and
condensers for light transportation are just not feasible.
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday,
With air as coolant in the 10 KW space heater, the suggested narrow range of
useful reactor temps is more easily achieved - compared to water or heat
transfer fluid. The mechanics of moving air are simpler, as is the transfer
of heat to the air - compared to liquids.
Sounds like the 2.6KW element
A few days ago there was a breif mention of Nicholas Moller and his work
on MAHG
The two websites that I have found both seem to date from 2005 and
emails to the addresses on these websites seem to bounce.
Is anyone aware of the statis of any work on this system?
On 15/01/2012 16:28, Jay
Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote:
Gas is the operative term. It is the expanding gas that makes internal
combustion the best choice for most transportation. Steam engines and
condensers for light transportation are just not feasible.
That is incorrect. There have been several
Apologies... The appended text on the previous posting was not
intended. I have changed to a different mail client which did not
behave quite as I was expecting
Nigel Dyer
On 15/01/2012 16:51, Nigel Dyer wrote:
A few days ago there was a breif mention of Nicholas Moller and his
work on
maybe steam engine, but seems not to be turbine.
external heat engine, for light vehicle, seems to be piston engine.
Stirling or steam engine.
2012/1/15 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote:
Gas is the operative term. It is the expanding gas that
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
maybe steam engine, but seems not to be turbine.
Sure. This was 1925.
ICE cars were primitive and difficult to drive back then. This car was as
fast as any ICE car. Leno is shown driving at 60 mph. He says you can go
all day at that speed, whereas a
512 keV 180 deg Gammas have been detected.
Then why is he still alive - and how can he possibly claim to put serious
effort in developing home units when from that factor alone it is abundantly
clear that none of this technology will ever run anywhere that somebody calls
home?
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
A thermoelectric hybrid vehicle would be better. It would be a lot more
expensive at present, but I expect the cost of themoelectric chips will
fall rapidly.
Let's use Rossi's thermo-electric chips... oh!
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was produced
not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but
also when it was unloaded.
A kind of homeopathy?
harry
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Another guess...If it is a military organization, based in (North)
America and starts with the letter N, maybe its NORAD.
NORAD could use a LENR power plant to power their underground bunkers.
If NORAD needed nuclear
Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was produced
not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but
also when it was unloaded.
A kind of homeopathy?
I guess it shows that flux is important. See the curves here:
Right,
at that level of development, buying one of this device as-is is only a
kind of partnership (if honest),
like the client and NI are (supposed to be) doing, or an expensive way to
check if it works. otherwise it is a way to make retro-engineering.
but one is only needed.
another
Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising
You could try Frolov - the co-inventor
http://www.faraday.ru/ah.html
-Original Message-
From: Nigel Dyer
A few days ago there was a brief mention of Nicholas Moller and his
work on MAHG
The two websites that
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was
produced
not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but
also when it was unloaded.
A kind of homeopathy?
I guess it shows
A kind of homeopathy?
I guess it shows that flux is important. See the curves here:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20111209NASA-Fralick-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf
(#12)
sort of like tidal power where you can generate electricity during the
incoming and outgoing tide?
I think so.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising
You could try Frolov - the co-inventor
http://www.faraday.ru/ah.html
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
A kind of homeopathy?
I guess it shows that flux is important. See the curves here:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20111209NASA-Fralick-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf
(#12)
sort of like tidal power where you can
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising
If 1/100 of what Naudin claims were true, he would be rich beyond his
imagination. Naudin creates lovely art work and take beautiful photos of
his
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily
available. I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there
seems to be a good
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily
available. I would
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
sort of like tidal power where you can generate electricity during the
incoming and outgoing tide?
Right! And that is an interesting analogy. As noted McKubre described this.
- Jed
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:12:39 -0500:
Hi Terry,
[snip]
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular
Sure, possible, but not feasible due to economics. Just the lithium
requirements for batteries will undo this scheme. Internal combustion will win
out over steam piston generators or thermoelectric.
Need to be careful not to ascribe uses for cold fusion that are too expensive -
it tempts
if shielded in his lead replaceable cartridge, would that make it acceptable to
UL, etc? There is some radiation from smoke detectors now.
- Original Message -
From: Yamali Yamali
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on the
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:02:42 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Recrystallization temperatures for different metals
Nickel---600C,
Iron---450C,
Copper---200C,
Aluminum---150C,
Zinc---Room Temperature,
As depicted in the table above, even if copper can be used as a
Thanks Robin for responding…
My theory of operations regarding the Rossi powder requires that the
metal(s) must be paramagnetic at the operating temperature of the reactor.
This comes from Dr. Kim who states that the powder be weakly reactive
magnetically to form a coherent proton based
Heck --- At $500 + $20/year I'm going to increase my order to FOUR units.
It's going to be cheaper to put one in each corner of the house than to snake
any kind of HVAC line through it.
(Other than electricity ... I mean standard air ducts, mini air ducts or water).
My house is weird it's
The recrystallization Temp of W is 1300-1500 C. Since it is known to
disassociate hydrogen when an arc is passed between tungsten electrodes for
atomic welding it might be a great candidate if it can form a nano powder
with the proper geometry. Although powdered tungsten properties remain the
same
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Last I heard, Rossi was still saying you need a WATER line to the eCat. I
hope that's changed.
If it hasn't, I'm sure it will. All you have to do to hear just about any
claim from Rossi is to wait a bit.
Is this a trick question? Why would it be greater?
AFAIK all the isotopes of hydrogen have the identical dissociation energy:
HH, DD, HD, TT, TH, TD
They are all 4.8 eV, no?
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
Mary, have you ever actually worked in any organization where design of any
kind was done? Plans are nearly complete, then somebody comes up with a bright
idea and they are scrapped in the blink of an eye. I'm supposed to complain
because the price has gone down 10-fold? The only unusual thing
Mary, aren't you getting tired of repeating yourself all the time?
Wolf
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com schrieb:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: Last I heard, Rossi was
still saying you need a WATER line to the eCat. I hope that's changed. If
it hasn't, I'm sure it
To be fair to all parties on this forum we need to read Joe Zawodny's
comments on the Nasa video:
http://joe.zawodny.com/index.php/2012/01/14/technology-gateway-video/
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Is this a trick question? Why would it be greater?
AFAIK all the isotopes of hydrogen have the identical dissociation energy:
HH, DD, HD, TT, TH, TD
They are all 4.8 eV, no?
I don't know. I simply can't find anything
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
To be fair to all parties on this forum we need to read Joe Zawodny's
comments on the Nasa video:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Mary, have you ever actually worked in any organization where design of
any kind was done?
Yes. I've done considerable design work on scientific instrumentation
myself. I've also been involved in design of sales brochures
Unfortunately his expert opinion will be used to futher delay
investment in LENR research in favour of pouring more money into god
particles and hot fusion.
harry
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately his expert opinion will be used to futher delay
investment in LENR research in favour of pouring more money into god
particles and hot fusion.
Perhaps you missed this part: ... I personally find
Greetings Vortex-L
October 24, 2011 Aviation Week
on Dr Zawodny s comment: 40 liters of water could power a
747 half way around the world...not sure IF this was on Vortex before..?
What is the recrystallization temp of chromium - mentioned by Stoyan Sarg as
likely substitute for nickel with similar 'dip' in Coulomb barrier energy
for fusion?
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 2:36 PM
Subject: Re:
Wolf sez:
Mary, aren't you getting tired of repeating yourself all the time?
Oh for heaven's sake, Wolf. Surely you know the answer to that.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Mary,
To be fair to both sides, I do note Zawodny has not seen a Rossi reactor
and is a competitor. So his statements do nothing to dampen Rossi's
claims. Like all scientists, he is saying it needs more money to be
thrown at it / him.
Of course it does. Rossi is at the Model T stage. Just
As suggested I did send Rossi a copy of the statement made by Jones Beene.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg61105.html
Rossi's comments were
This is totally false and ridiculous.
AG
On 1/16/2012 4:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Harry Veeder
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:14:05 -0500:
Hi Axil,
[snip]
Thanks Robin for responding
My theory of operations regarding the Rossi powder requires that the
metal(s) must be paramagnetic at the operating temperature of the reactor.
This comes from Dr. Kim who states
http://youtu.be/uakJJKGf-mM
More to follow on the next step...
Sincerely HDN
Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/
Here is some mail from people who can't understand what I am talking about, and
my reply
Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/
--- On Sat, 1/14/12, Harvey Norris harv...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Harvey Norris harv...@yahoo.com
Subject:
AussieGuy wrote:
Transmutation of elements via the FPE may replace mining.
It'll do more than that. it'll kill the entire precious metals business
which has been a foundation for countries' *monetary systems*. What affect
that will have on economic systems, and countries, is probably not
LENR would be quite disruptive if it even replaced 10 percent of the world
energy supply over the next twenty years. If it turns out to be bona fide
and something that can be commercialized (hopefully we'll get a sense of
this soon), and barring some unforeseen impediment to its widespread
Eric,
I suggest you read my entire posting… I was being facetious, and stated that
‘disruptive’ is not going far enough.
-m
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:45 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR is not a disruptive
I was more thinking out loud than responding to any specific point you were
making. :)
Eric
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Eric,
I suggest you read my entire posting… I was being facetious, and stated
that ‘disruptive’ is not
“There is however a whole range of stainless steels with varying magnetic
properties. Perhaps one can be found to suit?”
This is true.
Austenitic stainless steels like 304 used by Piantelli and 316L used by
Rossi are non-magnetic.
Magnetic force lines will pass through this type of
aha ...yeah.
by the way, imagine defkalion's offices today. I imagine some engineer
won't sleep today.
2012/1/16 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
Mary, have you ever actually worked in any organization where design of
any kind was done? Plans are nearly complete, then somebody comes up with a
In order to get to uranium via LENR (if it were possible) you would need to
start off with Thorium 232. By adding 2 protons to the thorium nucleus you
would get to uranium 232. This would kill you in 30 seconds using it total
range of lethal radioactive byproducts. U232 is the most dangerous stuff
Robin wrote:
There have been gas turbine powered race cars, so the response can't have
been too bad.
And Jay Leno builds turbine powered motorcycles... I WANT ONE
It uses the small Allison 250 jet turbine engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIi17by5W0
Aussie Guy summarizing Rossi's interview...
512 keV 180 deg Gammas have been detected
180 degs relative to what?
-Mark
Mark,
Rossi claimed, in the latest interview, two 511 keV gammas, going in
opposite directions, were produced and had been measured as a result of
electron–positron annihilation inside the E-Cat reactor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron%E2%80%93positron_annihilation
AG
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