[Vo]:First Manned Rocket
Did the first manned rocket launch in 1961 carrying Yuri Gagarin? Or did it launch in 1933 carrying Otto Fischer? http://io9.com/5908728/did-the-germans-launch-a-crewed-rocket-into-space-in-1933 T
Re: [Vo]:First Manned Rocket
They were 400 years late to the party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wan_Hu On 16 May 2012 12:31, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Did the first manned rocket launch in 1961 carrying Yuri Gagarin? Or did it launch in 1933 carrying Otto Fischer? http://io9.com/5908728/did-the-germans-launch-a-crewed-rocket-into-space-in-1933 T
Re: [Vo]:First Manned Rocket
Actually our common 'monkey' ancestors were test piloting rockets first. They were millions of years ahead of us. I guess the 'old saying that it's so easy a human can do it was true after all. Did the first manned rocket launch in 1961 carrying Yuri Gagarin? Or did it launch in 1933 carrying Otto Fischer? http://io9.com/5908728/did-the-germans-launch-a-crewed-rocket-into-space-in-1933 T /HTML
Re: [Vo]:First Manned Rocket
since this story mentions the hollow earth theory, I would like to say that I think the theory is a unconscious comment on galilean relativity (the central myth of modern physics) where the relativity motion is based on observations made inside windowless room. Harry On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:12 AM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: Actually our common 'monkey' ancestors were test piloting rockets first. They were millions of years ahead of us. I guess the 'old saying that it's so easy a human can do it was true after all. Did the first manned rocket launch in 1961 carrying Yuri Gagarin? Or did it launch in 1933 carrying Otto Fischer? http://io9.com/5908728/did-the-germans-launch-a-crewed-rocket-into-space-in-1933 T /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:56 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 15 May 2012 21:33:02 -0400: Hi, [snip] Yeah it has happened to me with a few street lights, but I thought it was just some sort of subtle electrical/vibrational connection between my body and a light which was nearing the end of its life. However, one night about 20+ years ago, I found I was able to turn a particular light on and off repeatedly by walking towards and away from it each time. Perhaps it has to do with the fair weather current, or in this case field. By walking toward the lamp the top of your head brings the ground closer to the lamp (because your body is filled with salt water, which is a reasonable conductor), thus changing the static field. The resultant high voltage change may be enough to trigger the circuitry of the lamp, causing it to turn on. This may only happens with lamps where the normal ground connection (if they have one) is broken . BTW it may also be related to whether or not your footwear is (somewhat) conductive (e.g. wet). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk Maybe. The hypothesis could be tested with a tall bladder filled with salt water sitting on remote controlled cart. Other curious phenomena such as water dowsing could be investigated with subitably constructed human analogues. harry
Re: [Vo]:What was that?
Sorry, this is late. I meant to reply to your post about that light, but time has been in short supply. At any rate, if you had been watching the nightsky over the years as much as I have, especially in a more studious manner, you would likely have noticed this light at least 5 times a year. About 12 yrs ago, I watched it as it came into view from due-west, traveling due east. It was almost what I'd say was a rather 'huge' not too bright yellow light (maybe what the sun might look like from jupiter), and traveling at a very high rate of speed, much moreso than the other more brighter white ones I've seen many times over the years. I watched it travel the entire sky from horizon to horizon (altho it was mostly dark) in about a half a minute. While it could have been mistaken for an airplane, that would 'only' be because you hadn't spent the previous 15 yrs studying the nightsky, and witnessed many a light show that were under *highly* intelligent control. I'll tell you right here now that most people who have their attention refocused by a strange obvious light on ocassion, simply don't have a reason or the time to look up at the nightsky on a regular basis. If they did however, and especially by letting *you know who* know that you're aware of them and their presence, I guarantee you that you will begin to see some very unbelievable sights. If you live in an area where there are no immediate bright street or city lights to obfuscate your view of the nightsky above you, then I would suggest you take advantage of it once while or as often as you can. You will see first-hand what has very highly likely been up there long before *our* time began. The only thing is that you will have trouble with what you're seeing, because first you allow yourself to look away right when it starts to get very interesting. It's not something you'll tend to even believe at first, or understand, and/or even a needd to relate to. All you'll essentially be able to do is to explain it away, so as to fit more easily into the boundaries of this limited world view (sorry, no offence). Over the many years, I have seen so very much that I no longer spend near as much time as I use to looking up. Many years ago already, I determined beyond any doubt that our civilization and/or human mode of being, and this good 'old planet earth that we are so very dependent upon for our survival, has for all intents purposes long since been obsolete. For me there's no longer a question about Evolution vs Creation, because the way I se it is that you simply can't have one without the other. Interesting enough, while we use powerful telescopes to peer into the beginning of the universe where when the first galaxies were just forming, and even beyond that where only a dark void exists, a highly advanced civilization has gone much Much farther than that, in that that void has been affected so as to bring about what we now call the universe. It looks to me is that *time* was created in time in an instant, after but before (it's so simple). Not only are *they* interpreting the world of matter/energy in a much more intracate detailed manner, but are operating it from afar, with absolute precision. What we're actually talking about is in-fact the real true Power of the Almighty, an unbelievably extremely well-coordinated or combined effort of many craft that emit a very powerful energy field that can pierce right into time itself. Now, I know what you're thinking, because I didn't quite believe it either at first,,, but there it is, never-the-less, in a nutshell. You can be sure of one thing, and that
[Vo]:Dowsing research ignored
http://producer.glacieragweb.com/2003/05/water-witch-work-ignored/ Water witch work ignored Posted May. 8th, 2003 by Karen Morrison A university researcher is having trouble convincing his colleagues that water witching works. “They’re not willing to accept it. They say dowsing doesn’t exist,” said Vincent von Tscharner of the University of Calgary. In the three years since he completed his three-year study of dowsers, he has been unable to get his research peer-reviewed, a necessary step that precedes its publication in scientific journals. Von Tscharner said he made a strong case in a statistical analysis of nine different dowsers in blind and controlled experiments. Some were even placed inside enclosed trailers or blindfolded and pulled around sites, so they would not know where they were in a field, he said. Analysis using linear regression and computer simulations led to his conclusion that there had to be more than luck in the dowsers’ high success rate. A Swiss native educated in experimental physics, mathematics and biophysics, von Tscharner now works in the human performance lab at the university’s kinesiology faculty. He found a strong correlation between muscle activity in human subjects and geological fields below the ground. Convinced the dowsers are reacting to geological structures underground, he conceded it may not necessarily be water. He placed electrodes on the dowsers to gauge muscle activity. “When people walk into an active zone, you see a change in the muscle activity,” he said. “Active fields have an influence on the human body.” The experiments were repeated with dozens of non-dowsers, who also showed changes in muscle activity in active zones. Yet only dowsers seemed able to use that to advantage in finding the fields with their divining rods and tools. Yannis Pahatouroglou of the University of Saskatchewan’s physics department said further collaborative study is needed involving specialists in the fields of biology, physics and geology. “A joint effort rather than an individual one might be able to prove that,” he said. He said experiments would need meticulous measurements, untested sites and subjects sensitive to underground fixtures. That would need to be followed up with geological analysis and drilling to determine what is below ground. “Anyone can speculate, but for something to be accepted, you have to have experiments,” said Pahatouroglou. Von Tscharner said it will take time to convince classical physicists of his results. In the meantime, he continues to present his research at conferences in the hopes that one day his research will be published. He noted dowsers have long been used by farmers and well diggers to identify potential drilling sites. “The population doesn’t care what scientists say,” he said. “They use it because they know it works for them and if they didn’t work, they wouldn’t use it again.” harry
Re: [Vo]:What was that?
This one is kindakewl: http://now.msn.com/now/0409-ufo-over-seoul.aspx T
Re: [Vo]:Passi22 -- Reply of Italian Secretary of State
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: This is actually an amazing comment. It explicitly recognizes LENR as it is: established experimentally as real, but without any universally accepted theory as to how it operates. Various Italian government agencies explicitly recognized LENR years ago. That is why the ENEA sponsored ICCF15, along with the Italian Physics and Chemistry societies. Unfortunately, there is still a great deal of opposition because of academic politics, and there is little or no funding for the research. Recognition is tepid at best. It is not strong enough to overcome the opposition. It is only a little better than nothing. - Jed
[Vo]:How Nature refused to re-examine the 1989 CalTech experiment
A paper by me: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJhownaturer.pdf This consists of several quotes from Miles and Noninski, my summary of some of the points they made about Lewis, followed by my snide remarks about Lindley rewritten in proper academic form. Lewis is confusing. I included a delicious quote from it. I wish I could upload the whole paper but I doubt that Lewis or Nature would grant permission. I do not wish to poke those two hornets' nests. Miles, Noninski and others assisted me with this, for which I thank them. I suppose I should add an Acknowledgement. That seems kind of formal for a mere 9-page summary. I have uploaded some other stuff lately, including Noninski's letter (referenced in my report), and Kowalkski's memoirs thoughts. See: http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097 - Jed
Re: [Vo]:How Nature refused to re-examine the 1989 CalTech experiment
Specifically, Kowalski is here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KowalskiLcoldfusion.pdf This paper popped up to the top of the list because I unveiled to the yet unknowing world the name of the editor that Pam blacked out: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanthermalbeh.pdf The name is George C. Schatz, Editor, The Journal of Physical Chemistry. Anyone could have discovered that with Google in about 10 seconds. I retyped several pages at the end. I also retyped Vesco Noninski's entire letter, which was a pain in the butt. I was hoping he would proofread it but so far he has not. The original is available at Krivit's page. The page I linked to in the paper . . . here: http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/library/1993/1993Noninski-CALTECH.pdf Speaking of unveiling things, my all-time favorite Victorian sculpture portraying a science-related theme is in the Musée d'Orsay, Nature Unveiling Herself Before Science, 1899: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barrias_Nature_p1070171.jpg Granted, there are not many sculptures in this category. I can hardly recall any others. But however many there are, I expect this will remain my favorite. Experimental science would be more engaging if it resembled this instead of anal-retentive stamp collecting. - Jed
[Vo]:OT [WIsconsin Politics] you have been warned
Again, this is OFF TOPIC. You have been warned. Here's a You-Tube clip I'm sure some on this list will find educational. Others, not at all. Too bad. Within the last week a video clip has just surfaced that I'm sure Scott Walker's supporters would have preferred stay buried. The clip shows Wisconsin governor Walker greeting, physically kissing and embracing one of his extremely rich financial billionaire supporters, Diane Hendricks, a person who contributed half a million dollars to his campaign and the use of her private plane - to help turn Wisconsin into a red state. Scott privately reveals his strategy plans to Ms Hendricks, to turn Wisconsin into a Red state, to deal with the public employee collective bargaining issue, to ...divide and conquer Wisconsin's public unions. Later, the video shows what Walker was simultaneously stating for public consumption - that he is not out to destroy Wisconsin's pubic unions. Lastly, a little humor: George Carlin talks about how the rich class keeps all the other classes fighting against each other so that they can continue to take all the fcking money to the bank. http://youtu.be/RLuzeXqMeJg Duration: two minutes. On June 5, within weeks from now , Wisconsin will hold a historic recall election to decide whether Scott Walker and Walker's financial backers will be allowed to continue their ideology of changing Wisconsin into a red state - or not. I have been a Wisconsin resident since 1967 and a state employee since 1978. I have never witnessed so much acrimony as what Walker has managed to stir up within the last year. Those who disagree with Walker's ideology realize he has many supporters, and many of those supporters are very rich and very powerful. It's extremely difficult to predict the outcome of this election. I miss Carlin. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:refrig question off topic
I received the line tap and and gauges. The line piercing tap was easy to install on the low pressure line. The134 gas went in promptly. I noticed that the low pressure line became cold and started to frost up. I thought that I had fixed the thing. It was easy as pie. Good boy Frankey. In continuing operation, it was still not cooling good enough or making ice. I had overfilled the fridge and the 134 was now boiling in the the low pressure line under the fridge on the way back to the compressor. I tried to let some gas out, to no avail. I now believe, the fridge was not low on gas and that the compressor was warn out. Sometimes the early bird does not get the worm. Off to the the store I go to get a new fridge. With what gas I had left I applied it to to some nickel powder. Nothing happened yet. Frank Z
Re: [Vo]:OT [WIsconsin Politics] you have been warned
I vote for keeping Vortex politics-free, especially when it has zero to do with the spirit of this email list. I'm sure most of us have already decided where they fall on the political spectrum and are perfectly capable of deciding what, and for whom, to vote for. If you like politics (and I do) there are plenty of forums that are more appropriate. - Brad
Re: [Vo]:OT [WIsconsin Politics] you have been warned
Thanks for the update. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT [WIsconsin Politics] you have been warned
I vote for keeping Vortex politics-free, especially when it has zero to do with the spirit of this email list. I'm sure most of us have already decided where they fall on the political spectrum and are perfectly capable of deciding what, and for whom, to vote for. If you like politics (and I do) there are plenty of forums that are more appropriate. - Brad Hear, Hear! Craig
Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.
On Wed, 16 May 2012, David Jonsson wrote: I am a SLIder myself. I can turn off some lights just by passing by foot or I'm not one myself. But I did get a chance to expound on my personal conventional-yet-crackpot bio-electrostatics explanation of some examples of the phenomenon: Lung-powered human VandeGraaff disease? William Shatner's Weird or What http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYxvtqH8QM (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.
On Wed, 16 May 2012, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Perhaps it has to do with the fair weather current, or in this case field. By walking toward the lamp the top of your head brings the ground closer to the lamp (because your body is filled with salt water, which is a reasonable conductor), thus changing the static field. The resultant high voltage change may be enough to trigger the circuitry of the lamp, causing it to turn on. In that case, the effect would follow certain streetlights (not reported,) and wouldn't follow certain rare people (commonly reported.) Control for very unusual height, rare types of shoe soles, etc. One of the common stories is that a person turns off *strings* of streetlights one at a time as they pass under them. If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be Anthropic Principle. Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity. Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby human presence, the bulb isn't noticed. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.
On Wed, 16 May 2012, William Beaty wrote: Lung-powered human VandeGraaff disease? William Shatner's Weird or What http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYxvtqH8QM Better link here: http://amasci.com/static/e-disease.html (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
