Andrea Rossi
November 21st, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Dear Clovis Alan Ray:
You merit this info: yesterday the third party validation of the Hot Cat has
been completed.
Has been good.
The results have been better that in the July 16th preliminary test.
We are presently manufacturing 3 1 MW E-Cats:
1- Low
Rossi has peers?
. . . but it will be weeks before we can tell you:
http://www.npr.org/2012/11/20/165513016/big-news-from-mars-rover-scientists-mum-for-now
(I hate it when they do that!)
and they are covered in barnacles
harry
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi has peers?
... but it will be weeks before we can tell you
Sounds like a little bit of Rossi has rubbed off on NASA...
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From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:12 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:NASA: We think we found
Gibbs published a new article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2012/11/20/cold-fusion-and-unintended-consequences/
For once I have no objection! He says nothing unreasonable.
I posted the following response:
Gibbs is correct. The problems he describes may occur with cold fusion.
These
Jones,
Time and frequency may experience Lorentzian expansion since there is no
spatial displacement if the oscillation is initiated while the environment is
contracted.. the electromagnetic oscillations occurring in the same Casimir
environment with fractional/relativistic hydrogen might
I should welcome Gibbs to the Reality Based community for these comments:
. . . it seems there may well be a real effect producing anomalous heat in
experimental setups.
The experimental stuff is all well and good but so far no one has managed
to definitively demonstrate that whatever the effect
I'll bet they told Mr. Obama. No fair! I wanna know!
- Jed
It's either traces of methane, or possibly some organic compounds. I doubt
it's dinosaur fossils.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll bet they told Mr. Obama. No fair! I wanna know!
- Jed
--
Patrick
www.tRacePerfect.com
The daily puzzle
Nov 21 add 4 weeks ... hmmm ... Dec 22 :-)
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
... but it will be weeks before we can tell you
Sounds like a little bit of Rossi has rubbed off on NASA...
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
. . . but it will be weeks before we can
On 11/21/2012 03:12 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Nov 21 add 4 weeks ... hmmm ... Dec 22 :-)
Grotzinger confirmed to SPACE.com that the news will come out at the
fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union, which takes place Dec.
3-7 in San Francisco.
I won't believe it until they send another Curiosity and run a blank test.
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:07:06 -0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
Thinking of acousticsIf the hemispheres are very accurately machined then
any ultrasonic excitement of the surface that is symmetrical will form waves
that collide at the center of the device. Very
Gibbs is wrong. There are many roads to over unity energy production.
Eventually the top over unity performers will win out. The production of
heat from LENR is the least desirable, efficient and resource intensive of
those various over unity energy production methods.
As a superior engineering
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Gibbs is wrong. There are many roads to over unity energy production. . . .
Wrong about what?
I do not think anyone has conclusively demonstrated a practical device yet.
Even assuming Rossi is correct, I would not call his reactors practical.
They are about
Wrong in that over unity power production cannot be engineered without
significant environmental downsides.
Axil
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Gibbs is wrong. There are many roads to over unity energy production.
It'll be fine, Peter Molyneux already did:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/curiosity-whats-inside-cube/id557549271?mt=8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b72HoQSQmEk - Curiosity, What's in the box?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I won't believe it until they
MSNBC news from a couple weeks ago:
Curiosity finds no methane on Mars — *not yet, anyway*
http://technology-science.newsvine.com/_news/2012/11/02/14886341-curiosity-finds-no-methane-on-mars-not-yet-anyway
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I won't believe it
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Wrong in that over unity power production cannot be engineered without
significant environmental downsides.
Yeah, I agree with that. But I do not think Gibbs is saying that downsides
are inevitable. He is saying they are possible, especially if people use
Curiously, 430 kHz is also in the range which is considered to be
ultrasound.
That frequency turns up as a signature of one form of LENR, according to
recent revelations - and it would be a mistake to over-generalize from that
alone; but . there are a number of principles of reciprocity which
Found on Mars...a Prius Hup CapO--OT.
Happy Thanksgiving. In the East we are happy for 'lectricity.
Next year we will be happy for LENR or Warm Fusion.
RonK
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
MSNBC news from a couple weeks ago:
Curiosity finds
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Curiously, 430 kHz is also in the range which is considered to be
ultrasound…
10 times Stanley Meyer's dissociation frequency, too.
I just remembered something that ties in with the 430Khz. and anomalous
effects with water and piezos.
When I was involved with the International Tesla Society back in the 80s, we
would meet once a month to discuss fringe topics, and a few of the group
were hacking together some experiments.
Interesting stuff (even to a completely ignorant one like me). Have y'all
heard of the work at Rice Univ. by Halas et al vaporizing (cold) water
directly in a couple seconds by various nanoparticles. In ACS Nano.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
I
Finally, a breakthrough in the construction of large buildings. See:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/20/china-plans-to-build-the-worlds-largest-skyscraper-in-just-90-days/
This will open the way to things like gigantic food factories (indoor
farms).
- Jed
I think this is not a breakthrough properly. They are just not ashamed of
making that big structures can be ugly and cheap as long as it works.
Besides, the building is probably already built, it just has to be
assembled in place.
2012/11/21 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Finally, a
From New Scientist (needs free registration):
Half-life
strife: Seasons change in the atom's heart
Nothing is supposed to speed up or slow down radioactive
decay. So how come the sun seems to be messing with some of our
elements?
The
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I won't believe it until they send another Curiosity and run a blank test.
I won't accept the result unless this second rover is built and
operated by a group people with no affiliation to NASA.
Harry
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this is not a breakthrough properly. They are just not ashamed of
making that big structures can be ugly and cheap as long as it works.
That is true. That is why I say this would be idea for food factories and
other large industrial complexes.
This is the scary part.
2012/11/21 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
The building is *reportedly* stronger
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Totally 3D printed.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
This is the scary part.
2012/11/21 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
The building is *reportedly* stronger
Oh come now. There are many first-rate architects and engineers in China.
Before they spend a huge sum of
Hi folks,
I have completed a long series of experiments utilizing borax, standard
nickels (combined with thoriated tungsten rods), and an automated Android
phone control system. Although I developed some cool methods of running
experiments, I have to conclude that I found no anomalous heating.
New Scientist is a general science magazine. Perhaps the article below
references a basic research paper that can be found on Arxiv?
Eric
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Andy Findlay andy_find...@orange.netwrote:
From New Scientist (needs free registration):
*Half-life strife: Seasons
Axil, it has not been proven that the Papp engine is capable of performing as
advertised. I have serious doubts from what has been demonstrated to date and
it is wise to continue to pursue technology that we know exists.
Can you point me to a recent demonstration that actually shows a Papp
http://arxiv.org/abs/1207.5783
http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.3318
http://arxiv.org/abs/1107.4074
http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.3156
Analysis:
http://phys.org/news201795438.html
Refutation:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.4357
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
New
Refutation should have said Criticism.
Jeff
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1207.5783
http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.3318
http://arxiv.org/abs/1107.4074
http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.3156
Analysis:
http://phys.org/news201795438.html
To my best knowledge, the Papp engine is the only over unity invention to
have ever received an American patent.
The self-powered Papp engine was tested by independent and objective
parties and certified under oath to be functional and witnessed to produce
over 100 horsepower.
The Papp reaction
Jack,
I suggest that you rerun your experiment with nanosecond duration pulsed
direct current using capacitive discharge.
You have not tested the hypothesis that high instantaneous pulse power
output will trigger over unity power production as has been demonstrated
by Brillouin Energy.
Show me a currently available and operating device that can be independently
proven and I will be convinced. The burden is upon those that make the
extraordinary claims. If it was done once, then it should be possible to do it
again.
I know I sounds like the typical cold fusion denier,
The physical constant μ0, commonly called the vacuum permeability,
permeability of free space, or magnetic constant is an ideal, (baseline)
physical constant, which is the value of magnetic permeability in a
classical vacuum.
Ken Shoulders has taken out a patent for the remediation of nuclear
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:45 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I know I sounds like the typical cold fusion denier, but cold fusion has
been replicated and can be demonstrated currently. Why not require the
same level of proof for the Papp devices?
Nothing solid, but there's an
We are working to recovery this technology in an open source effort
involving multiple experimenters. Cheers:Axil
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:45 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Show me a currently available and operating device that can be
independently proven and I will be
That was an interesting video, but no attempt was made to measure output energy
compared to input energy as far as I could tell. That is the kind of
information that we need if we are to accept that it works.
It is my suspicion that this type of machine behaves more like an electric
motor
I very much would like to see this become a success.
Dave
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From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 12:58 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Gibbs: Cold fusion and unintended consequences
We are working to recovery this
And please no group that have even claimed the possibility of life on Mars.
Moreove the claim have to be published and validated in peer reviewed
article from magazine who never pretend that possibility, and still do,
even after publishing.
without those constraints, science will take the risk to
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