Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat

2013-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
I went through the binding energy calculation for Ni62 - Cu62 - 5.2703255625 MeV energy gain On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:07:31 -0400: Hi, [snip] *(The fact that we get so little is enshrined in the law

[Vo]:New image, and site

2013-04-24 Thread John Berry
Hey, I have made a new image that might be more apparent for some. And a website however basic/shoddy: http://aethericsciences.net78.net/ The first image (after the text), open it up in a new window so it displays are the correct size preferably. John

RE: [Vo]:New image, and site

2013-04-24 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Surprisingly enough, I did feel a warmth where it says Feel over the circle even when I had my eyes closed and moved the image to a random place first! What's your algorithm for designing these drawings? From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:40

Re: [Vo]:New image, and site

2013-04-24 Thread Vorl Bek
This reminds me of the Stephen King story about the fellow who had the ability to draw an image which, when looked at by its intended target, caused him to commit suicide a few days later. Of course, this is benign; maybe it could be developed from making someone's hand warm to making him more

[Vo]:Fw: SHARE to All: Possible effect of Carbon, especially Aceton.

2013-04-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, Dr. Francesco Celani is reporting and encouraging to share that he found out that small amounts of liquid hydrocarbons such as Acetone can provide significant improvements to anomalous heat generation in gas-loaded LENR devices. No further details are available at the moment

[Vo]:Celani reports that carbon enhances reaction

2013-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
[A message from Celani] Dear Colleagues, As anticipated, we have found significative increase of anomalous heat when we ADDED small amounts (1-2cc) of liquid hydrocarbons to our cell, under partial vacuum conditions. * Hystorically, in gas system, (since 2010), apart H2O and D2O (obviously NOT

Re: [Vo]:New image, and site

2013-04-24 Thread John Berry
Well that is a pretty good result, Reload the page and recheck the top image for me, I improved it. Anyway, to your question, that particular one is based on an angle that I discovered I was holding my fingers on. I tried to work out what it was and it seemed that 360/14= 25.714 deg worked best.

Re: [Vo]:Celani reports that carbon enhances reaction

2013-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah. I see Akira beat me to it. Let me add a footnote: Bockris and others warned me that carbon poisons the reaction. But I think this is because they are using electrochemistry and carbon prevents loading. That is a different problem. - Jed

[Vo]:Wind overtakes nuclear power in China

2013-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is surprising. See: http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Wind-Overtakes-Nuclear-to-Become-Chinas-3rd-Largest-Energy-Source.html QUOTE: In 2012 wind power generation totalled 100.4 billion kilowatt hours, an increase of 0.5% from the years before, and enough to send it past

Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat

2013-04-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Robin, Nice analogy of HUP [snip] ...yes but as I said before, the enforcers from the Bank of Heisenberg are real thugs (baseball bats are standard issue. ;)[/snip].. and I will apply it to ZPE and what these thugs do when the geometry confinement tries to curtail the random direction of their

[Vo]:NASA - Magical Timelapse of 3 Years of Solar Beauty - Rebecca J. Rosen - The Atlantic

2013-04-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Ron Clark http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/04/nasa-released-a-magica l-timelapse-of-3-years-of-solar-beauty-and-we-set-it-to-dubstep-for-you/2752 29/ Interesting video with implications worthy of comment, even if this is only an inverse kind of

Re: [Vo]:Wind overtakes nuclear power in China

2013-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I quoted: CWEA states that in 2012 around 20 billion kWh of wind generated electricity was wasted due to curtailment. What a shame to waste all that electricity! Question: How do you get rid of 20 billion kWh? With gigantic resistance heaters? Maybe they mean they feathered the turbine

RE: [Vo]:New image, and site

2013-04-24 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I didn't feel anything from the new top image with a brief test. Regardless of whether there's anything to this or not, it seems like a good metaphor the feelings of most scientists towards LENR ( or any other new paradigm ). Most know there's nothing to it, so won't even bother to

Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat

2013-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
The electroweak force can support the gainful nature of LENR just as well as the strong force. Beta decay can provide up to 6.5 MeV of LENR energy outputs which is about on the same level as what the strong force can produce. The Higgs field is a weak force mechanism and the thrust of new

Re: [Vo]:Celani reports that carbon enhances reaction

2013-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
The addition of carbon based material in a gas based LENR system may well be due to the increase in the dielectric property of the gas provided by the addition of the hydrocarbon. Dielectric Constant of some common Liquids http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/liquid-dielectric-constants-d_1263.html

RE: [Vo]:NASA - Magical Timelapse of 3 Years of Solar Beauty - Rebecca J. Rosen - The Atlantic

2013-04-24 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a composite image showing a putative equatorial cold belt in a static image. http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/assets_c/2013/04/743348m ain_Timelapse_Sun_4k-1500-thumb-570x570-119711.jpg If this banding effect were merely an illusion based the earth's changing axis

Re: [Vo]:Fw: SHARE to All: Possible effect of Carbon, especially Aceton.

2013-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
Methanol has a very high dielectric constant at 32.6.This is compared to 1.26 for hydrogen. Pressure an temperature of the Methanol will increase the dielectric constant of the material. At 32 °C, *ε*(1 bar)= 31.9 and *ε*(2000 bar)= 36.4. At 252 °C This dielectric constant correlation is

[Vo]:RE: CSETI: KumareTORSION WAVE hyprspace=Quantum Entanglement=Spooky Action

2013-04-24 Thread Harbach Jak
Questions within Questions The Scientific 'Quest' for Definitive-Answers;that 'work.' * * * CSETI: TORSION WAVE hyperspeed Communication was 'discovered' by Joachim Hauser(Deutschland:contemporary) and moves through parallel-adjacent SOURCE Aexohyperspace at VIRTUAL NO TIME-VIRTUAL NO

[Vo]:New sonofusion experiment presentation

2013-04-24 Thread pagnucco
The following presentation from India describes (what appears to be) a successful sonofusion experiment. The essential apparatus involved are: - Pyrex flask. - Deuterated acetone - Vacuum pump. - Piezoelectric crystal. - Wave generator. - Amplifier. - Neutron generator. - Neutron and gamma ray

Re: [Vo]:New sonofusion experiment presentation

2013-04-24 Thread pagnucco
I forgot to include the text description link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/137767342/Sonfusion The following presentation from India describes (what appears to be) a successful sonofusion experiment. The essential apparatus involved are: - Pyrex flask. - Deuterated acetone - Vacuum pump.

Re: [Vo]:New image, and site

2013-04-24 Thread John Berry
That is interesting, since you felt the other one. So maybe the one designed to be more 'material' rather than just stronger is just that. Anyway while it is self serving to agree so fully with your correlation, you are very correct. That many can see it in one area and not in another is a

[Vo]:VALID SCIENTIFIC QUERY: BHO: LGBT INFANTCIDE/EUGENIC GENOCIDE CommonAgenda: Say it ain't so!

2013-04-24 Thread Harbach Jak
Scientific Question: ?How does 'Planned Eugenic Infanticide' translate into Planned Parenthood? The NAZIs coined MANY dark euphamisms for 'human extermination' amongwhich 'Eugenics' was adopted by them although it was NOT 'imagined' first by them. The Rockefeller Foundation was the NAZI

Re: [Vo]:VALID SCIENTIFIC QUERY: BHO: LGBT INFANTCIDE/EUGENIC GENOCIDE CommonAgenda: Say it ain't so!

2013-04-24 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
What is good in having more and more children, in particular when people cannot afford it? I rather extend the length and quality of the people that are already alive right now. Giovanni On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Harbach Jak ja.harc...@hotmail.com wrote: Scientific Question: ?How does

Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat

2013-04-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 24 Apr 2013 03:47:59 -0400: Hi, [snip] I went through the binding energy calculation for Ni62 - Cu62 - 5.2703255625 MeV energy gain Then you must have made a mistake somewhere. Cu62 naturally undergoes a weak force decay reaction to Ni62, with the

RE: [Vo]:New sonofusion experiment presentation

2013-04-24 Thread Jones Beene
This is interesting - especially in that it validates Rusi Taleyarkhan claims. Shame on you Purdue ! OTOH as of now - the device is grossly inefficient and the mention of having a route to self-power is ridiculous. It would take at least 10,000 linked reactors like this one to get near

Re: [Vo]:NASA - Magical Timelapse of 3 Years of Solar Beauty - Rebecca J. Rosen - The Atlantic

2013-04-24 Thread ChemE Stewart
My take is that these cold bands are sunspot bands which are colder than their surroundings. They also rotate like hurricanes on earth, which are also condensing water vapor around them through vacuum condensing. They are both created by black hole strings of dark energy and the sun shares these

[Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
We just shouldn't grant machines the decision about who lives or dies Noel Sharkey, Chairman of the International Committee for Robot Arms Control. http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/opinion/killer-robots-new-arms-race/ http://icrac.net/ Harry

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-24 Thread Craig
On 04/24/2013 07:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: We just shouldn't grant machines the decision about who lives or dies Noel Sharkey, Chairman of the International Committee for Robot Arms Control. I, for one, welcome our new robot masters...

Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat

2013-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
No mistake, but check me so..for 1 nickel 62... Δmass = 28x1.00727647amu + 34x1.00866492amu - 61.928345amu = 0.5700034 so..for 1 copper 62... Δmass = 29x1.00727647amu + 33x1.00866492amu - 61.932616amu = 0.5643440 Difference in binding energy = 0.00565941amu In MeV = 5.2703255625 On

Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat

2013-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
Yes, there must be a mistake because where does all that increased nuclear binding energy come from? The b-decay is going up an energy hill. The Bank of Heisenberg is going to need an audit. I don’t understand it. Please explain my mistake to me. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:51 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:45 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:28:00 -0400: Hi, [snip] If a neutron can be made decay while in a deuteron then it seems to me the warming of the lattice is best explained by the motion arising from the

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
In stars deuterons formation begins with the fusion of two protons into a diproton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction Since the diproton is very unstable it usually fissions soon after by emitting a positron and a neutrino. Darn, I forgot to correct that.

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I disagree with this author. I think antonymous robots are better than artillery, or WWII style bombs dropped from airplanes, or shooting arrows at a crowd of people in ancient times. Nobody likes to think about war. New weapons always seem especially cruel. Some are, such as gas or nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-24 Thread John Berry
I, for one, welcome our new robot masters... I am pretty sure they will watch the Simpsons, then kill you because you got the quote wrong, imperfection found, eliminate faulty human. I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

RE: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread Jones Beene
Harry In stars deuterons formation begins with the fusion of two protons into a diproton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction Since the diproton is very unstable it usually fissions soon after by emitting a positron and a neutrino. This is not accurate. The

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Harry In stars deuterons formation begins with the fusion of two protons into a diproton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction Since the diproton is very unstable it usually fissions soon

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: In RPF, Reversible Proton Fusion - the two protons which are immediately split from nascent He-2 are technically not the original two protons

Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat

2013-04-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:51:00 -0400: Hi, [snip] No mistake, but check me so..for 1 nickel 62... ?mass = 28x1.00727647amu + 34x1.00866492amu - 61.928345amu = 0.5700034 You are adding the masses of naked protons and neutrons, but subtracting the mass of the

RE: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread Jones Beene
Actually The neutron has mass slightly larger than that of a proton: 939.565378 MeV compared to 938.272046 MeV. Consequently, a deuteron has slightly more mass than a diproton. That is one of the many reasons why the reaction on the Sun, the one that results in a deuteron is extraordinarily

RE: [Vo]:New sonofusion experiment presentation

2013-04-24 Thread pagnucco
Jones, If the experimental outputs were properly measured, I am not as pessimistic as you are. Maybe the neutron generator could be removed in a self-sustained mode, for example. Also, the tritium could be used in an after-burn fusion reactor. Bubble formation might be increased with

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:07:24 -0700: Hi, [snip] Actually The neutron has mass slightly larger than that of a proton: 939.565378 MeV compared to 938.272046 MeV. Consequently, a deuteron has slightly more mass than a diproton. That is one of the many reasons why

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:07 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:07:24 -0700: Hi, [snip] Actually The neutron has mass slightly larger than that of a proton: 939.565378 MeV compared to 938.272046 MeV. Consequently, a deuteron has slightly