[Vo]:about LENR-Cities and misc.

2014-12-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, This could be interpreted as pernicious lack of creativity and modesty, but I cannot imagine better and more useful Sunday LENR lecture than what I am offering you here: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/12/daily-shared-lenr-activity-december-21.html It is also good against

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I first met Jed at the CETI demo. It was nice to really meet him in person. -Original Message- From: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Dec 20, 2014 11:43 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not? Perhaps

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps Patterson realized he didn't have anything which is why he blustered instead of accepting a deal that would only lead to disappointment. There is not the slightest evidence for that, and absolutely no motivation or method by which he

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: I first met Jed at the CETI demo. It was nice to really meet him in person. Huh. When you consider that I was hopping mad and fit to be tied, the fact that I was nice to meet is a credit to my self control, or at least, to my ability to practice

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
In the private demo, which Jed was excluded, because they were mad at him, I noted the preheater. I multiplied the frequency of the thermal vibrations times the domain size and got 1 million meters per second. The constant, Znidarsic's constant, 1,094,000 meters per second. It is the

[Vo]:New research on x-rays and gamma rays from lightning

2014-12-21 Thread H Veeder
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2014/12/15/frequent-flyers-could-take-a-hit-of-radiation-from-lightning/

Re: [Vo]:Exhaled Pounds: How Fat Leaves the Body

2014-12-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Huge issues regarding weight gain are probiotics, these can be responsible for obesity or weight loss. Many experiments with mice have proven this out. The most effective way to make mice and other mammals fat is to feed them cooked food, instead of

RE: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Jones Beene
From: Blaze Spinnaker Ø Ø Perhaps Patterson realized he didn't have anything which is why he blustered instead of accepting a deal that would only lead to disappointment. Sadly, this will be the way that history and mainstream physics will remember CETI unless the excess energy from

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
The very slow timeline and we are still not even close. 1996 observed the 1 million meters per second velocity in the CETI cell. 2000 ANS 200 meeting presented my theorem. The constants of the motion converge in a Bose condensate stimulated at a dimensional frequency of 1 mega hertz

Re: [Vo]:about LENR-Cities and misc.

2014-12-21 Thread Lennart Thornros
I think this was excellent. Thanks Peter. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning,

Re: [Vo]:about LENR-Cities and misc.

2014-12-21 Thread Peter Gluck
I thank you for the kind words. LENR technologists from all countries unite! I just found a possible parallel between the secret of LENR and the story Sacred Flame by Selma Lagerlof. Do you remember it? Who will carry the flame further? I read it some 65 years ago. Peter On Sun, Dec 21, 2014

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I observed the velocity of one million meters per second at the CETI demo. I felt that it was important. At first, as an Electrical Engineer, I produced this velocity in terms of electrical units. I had a quantum of capacitance and units of inductance. After taking some physics

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Bob Cook
- Original Message - From: Frank Znidarsic To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not? I observed the velocity of one million meters per second at the CETI demo. I felt that it was

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Bob Cook
Frank-- Those numbers are impressive. Does the maximum range of the strong nuclear force match the idea of a sonic velocity of the nucleus very well? It so it seems from a classical point of view one may be able to calculate the change in the strong nuclear force as a function of distance

Re: [Vo]:about LENR-Cities and misc.

2014-12-21 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Peter, I agree to the extent it is hard to prove what you only know in your heart or are the only one who has witnessed. Glad you have read her books. . She was an unusual woman and a great story teller. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1

Re: [Vo]:about LENR-Cities and misc.

2014-12-21 Thread Bob Cook
Lennart and Peter-- You are both optimists of the first order. Bravo. First order optimists are generally liberal and look fear in the face and call it for what it is. Bob - Original Message - From: Lennart Thornros To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I agree with your reconsideration of Pahlavani's letter. A little tutorial on the Nature of Woods-Saxon potential is warranted: From Wikipedia-- The Woods–Saxon potential is a mean field potential for the nucleons (protons and neutrons) inside the atomic nucleus, which is used to

Re: [Vo]:about LENR-Cities and misc.

2014-12-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Bob, I have very clearly stated that I am optimist onle for the future of LENR but sadly pessimist re its present. Call me false prophet of 3rd rank if after 5 years LENR based energy sources will not be on the market- just under a new name. Peter On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Bob Cook

RE: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Jones Beene
Sorry Frank, but you are just as wrong now as you were then. http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?rp|search_for=proton+radius - Original Message - From: Frank Znidarsic mailto:fznidar...@aol.com There were those that stated that my analysis was wrong

Re: [Vo]:about LENR-Cities and misc.

2014-12-21 Thread Axil Axil
I was hoping that science would accept LENR in my lifetime so that science could help me understand what LENR was really all about. But orthodox science and LENR are antagonistic at a fundamental level. The divide here is just too great. If LENR produces transmutation, fusion, and reduces and

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I think the item I just copied regarding the Woods-Saxon potential indicates for Hydrogen, Z=1, that Frank is closer to the listed radius of 1.23 fm than you are at your .866 fm. I think your radius is a rms charge radius. You and Frank may be talking about different dimensions of

RE: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, there is only one physical radius for the proton, the charge radius. Frank’s value is way off since he has always confused Compton wavelength with a physical dimension. Sure, we can recognize duality here, but if you want something to be based on a “speed” or quantum velocity less than

Re: [Vo]: Neutron Tunneling Theory regarding Lugano Report--

2014-12-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:52:18 -0500: Hi, BTW for a Hydrino based explanation, consider the possibility that 4 negatively charged Hydrinohydride ions displace the electrons of a Lithium atom and arrange themselves in a tight tetrahedron with Li3+ at its core. This

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Jones you are wrong now as you were before. I am speaking about the radius of the bound nucleon which is half of the nuclear wave number. 1.35/2 -Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Dec 21, 2014 4:22 pm Subject: RE:

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Dec 21, 2014 1:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not? Frank-- Those numbers are impressive. thanks Bob Does the maximum range of the strong

RE: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Jones Beene
Frank, “Bound nucleon”… this is the new twist to megahertz-meter? Which bound nucleon? Isn’t it fair to ask: what good is a theory for LENR which does not apply to either hydrogen or deuterium? The radius of the deuteron which is a bound nucleon is 2.14 fm … hydrogen is .8775 fm.

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Does the maximum range of the strong nuclear force match the idea of a sonic velocity of the nucleus very well? I believe nuclear phonons are entirely quantum. In this regard I wonder whether there's a sense in which

Re: [Vo]:1995- CETI 1kW reacto claim . fraud or not?

2014-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
No it does not. Nuclear courses start off with the liquid drop model of the nucleus. They then process forever in the direction of increasingly harder mathematics. Liquids convey sound. Ask a post doc about the speed of sound in the liquid drop and you will get the blank stare of an

[Vo]:The Politics of Science by Joseph Agassi

2014-12-21 Thread H Veeder
Philosopher Joseph Agassi's 1986 paper _The Politics of Science_. http://www.academia.edu/3705830/politics_of_science quotes: ...It is an empirical fact that when I report to colleagues, philosophers, scientists, university professors and administrators, and other intellectuals, that I wish to