Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

[a.ashfield]

Frank Znidarsic 
 
"The field of cold fusion does not need this."


I don't know how you can say that when Rossi resurrected cold fusion 
from near death only about five years ago. As a result several 
universities and several /countries/ are now working on LENR.


In passing, Rossi says today the QuarkX test is "so far so good." I 
reckon it must be almost half way through it.

[Vo]:good news

[kowalskil]

Hey,

I've got some good news for you, read more about it here 


Regards, kowals...@mail.montclair.edu

[Vo]:last news

[Peter F . Macaluso]

Hi,

Here are some news since we've met last time, just read'em here  


Yours sincerely, Peter F. Macaluso

Re: [Vo]:good news

[Stephen A. Lawrence]

SPAM SPAM  SPAM

this "person" (who is most likely a spambot) should be kicked out of the 
group.


It's a weightloss trash site.

On 06/02/2016 09:19 PM, kowals...@mail.montclair.edu wrote:


Hey,

I've got some good news for you, read more about it here 
http://phuquanteha.failedfounder.com/aehqcp


Regards, kowals...@mail.montclair.edu

Re: [Vo]:last news

[Stephen A. Lawrence]

SPAM SPAM SPAM

Another weightloss spammer -- should be kicked out (they're probably not 
even human, just a bot).



On 06/02/2016 09:20 PM, Peter F. Macaluso wrote:


Hi,

Here are some news since we've met last time, just read'em here 
http://quuquucugy.unshelvish.com/aeoadyb


Yours sincerely, Peter F. Macaluso

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1 Legal issues

[Bob Cook]

  


  
  
Frank Znidarsic  "The field of cold fusion does not need this."


I don't know how you can say that when Rossi resurrected cold
  fusion from near death only about five years ago. As a result
  several universities and several countries are now working
  on LENR.

In passing, Rossi says today the QuarkX test is "so far so good." I
reckon it must be almost half way through it.




  

[Vo]:New Mizuno Patent, with clear descriptions of nanostructured material and plasma reactor...

[Alain Sepeda]

Hi,
maybe you missed the recent patent by Clean Planet/Mizuno
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/3306-Mizuno-USPTO-Patent-Application-June-2-2016/

The claims are quite clear and innovative from what I understand

I feel it can be replicated.

"claims 1 is quite simple et probably a good hint for replicators

​A reactant installed in a reactor having a deuterium gas atmosphere, a
heavy water gas atmosphere, a protium gas atmosphere or a light water gas
atmosphere, wherein the reactant is formed from a hydrogen storage metal,
and a plurality of metal nano-protrusions, each of which has a nano-size of
1000 [nm] or smaller, are formed on a surface of the reactant.



there are variations; precisions :

   - nano-protrusions with a width of 300 [nm]


   - the metal nano-protrusions are metal nanoparticles having a curved
   surface in which a part of a spherical particle, an elliptical particle
   or an egg-shaped particle is embedded in the surface


   - a thin wire formed from the hydrogen storage metal in a reticulated
   shape, wherein the metal nano-protrusions are formed on a surface of the
   thin wire


   - the reactant is electrically connected to an electric power source,
   and works as an electrode for generating plasma in the reactor


   - a plurality of fine particle bodies of hydrogen storage metal, which
   are smaller than the metal nano-protrusions and are formed from the
   hydrogen storage metal, are deposited on the surfaces of the metal
   nano-protrusions, and the surfaces of the metal nanoparticles are formed
   to be in an uneven state (?()​ due to the fine particle bodies of the
   hydrogen storage metal.
   - a plurality of fine particle bodies of hydrogen storage metal, which
   are smaller than the metal nano-protrusions and are formed from the
   hydrogen storage metal, are deposited on the surfaces of the metal
   nano-protrusions, and the surfaces of the metal nanoparticles are formed to
   be in an uneven state due to the fine particle bodies of the hydrogen
   storage metal. ...
   - fine particle bodies of the hydrogen storage metal are formed from a
   hydrogen storage metal which is different from the hydrogen storage
   metal of the metal nano-protrusions... metal nano-protrusions are formed
   from any one of hydrogen storage metals among Ni, Pt and Pd, and the
   fine particle bodies of the hydrogen storage metal are formed from a
   hydrogen storage metal among Ni, Pt and Pd, which is different from that of
   the metal nano-protrusions."

[Vo]:actually it is about LENR dialogue, but dialogue being now impossible

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/06/june-02-2016-lenr.html

See you tomorrow too, but not happier than today, I know...

Once there will be peace and unity in LENR land, I am optimist despite all
the conflicts..

peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

[a.ashfield]

Eric,
"Rossi's new business partners will be assuming a lot of risk in working 
with him."


While any new venture particularly one where the process is not 
understood is risky,  if they can witness a 7 day trial and make the 
measurements they want, it sounds a reasonable risk to me - when 
considering the possible payoff.

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

[Frank Znidarsic]

Rossi offered hope.Great professors had verified
his technology.  He even had a factory in the works in Florida.
Then came the one megawatt plant.  It seemed suspicious when the production
of only tens of watts would had been a stupendous breakthrough.


Now with the lawsuits the one megawatt plant is more than suspicious.
Vortex has gone crazy, like it did during the Smoot fiasco.  The smoot is gone
from the discussion now and someday so it will be with the E-cat.


The field of cold fusion does not need this.


I continue to work on my same slowly moving path.  I am now working with 
two retired military officials from the pentagon to bring cold fusion into 
reality.  
So far nothing material has happened but they are on it.   




I am selling a few more books all of the time.  Apps too.  My past experience 
tells 
me that the story will be the same one year from now.   Maybe I will have a few 
more apps.  I have 
some ideas there.




http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text=%22znidarsic+science+books%22=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3A%22znidarsic+science+books%22


Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

[Eric Walker]

Adrian,

The risk alluded to was not a technological one, but instead a legal one. If 
there is no settlement (of course there might be one), there's the likelihood 
that counterclaims will be raised. The license agreement itself includes 
language about there being no outstanding legal disputes, and presumably the 
same kind of consideration will be relevant to the interests of the new 
business partner (Hydrofusion, I assume, but am not sure of).

Take the opinion of someone who is not a lawyer for what it's worth in this 
case (very little).

Eric

> On Jun 2, 2016, at 12:11, a.ashfield  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> "Rossi's new business partners will be assuming a lot of risk in working with 
> him."
> 
> While any new venture particularly one where the process is not understood is 
> risky,  if they can witness a 7 day trial and make the measurements they 
> want, it sounds a reasonable risk to me - when considering the possible 
> payoff.
>