Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
Fluorescent lamps have an Argon fill pressure of ~ 3 to 5 Torr: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6683407-description.html If there are any low-pressure/vacuum-induced (Casimir-ZPE) heat effects, they should show up when a lamp is first lit. Charge a capacitor to a few KV and dump it into a

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
A standard 4 foot (122 cm long) T-12 1.5 inch (3.8 cm diameter) fluorescent bulb at5 Torr Argon pressure should contain ~ 2.46e20 Argon atoms. or ~0.025eV /atom with a 1.0 joule energy input. pulse. About the same eV/atom at 300 degrees Kambienttemperature. Sounds a bit like the PAGD doesn't

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
Papp Engine vs PAGD: http://www.aetherometry.com/papp_engine.html "Both systems employ a sudden (and catastrophic) electric discharge. Papp followed the model of the internal combustion (IC) engine, with the high-pressure spark igniting the inert gas fuel. In the PAGD, the 'spark' consists of

Re: PAGD Levitation?

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
The Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharge in the Argon in a standard T-12 40 watt fluorescent bulb approaches 40,000 joules per cubic meter (negative antigravity energy here?) It sure would explain the colors, Terry described on 04-01-06: The color changes depending on whether the object is

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
In the words of James Burke's, "Connections". The Inversion Temperature: " the 'normal' effect of cooling when a gas expands takes place below that temperature, above that temperature it heats under expansion." Gas Inversion Temp Deg K Space 0-3 Helium 51 Hydrogen 205 -90.67 F Neon 242

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Mark Jordan
There is this patent that can be related: http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3781601.pdf MJ On 1 May 2006 at 2:23, Frederick Sparber wrote: Fluorescent lamps have an Argon fill pressure of ~ 3 to 5 Torr: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6683407-description.html

OFF TOPIC How to write spontaneously

2006-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a quote from the John Kenneth Galbraith obit., New York Times: He continued to rise early and, despite the seeming effortlessness of his prose, revised each day's work at least five times. It was usually on about the fourth day that I put in that note of spontaneity for which I am

Re: OFF TOPIC How to write spontaneously

2006-05-01 Thread Philip Winestone
That's a little like: Sincerity is a great selling tool; if you can fake sincerity you've got it made. P. At 11:12 AM 5/1/2006 -0400, you wrote: Here is a quote from the John Kenneth Galbraith obit., New York Times: He continued to rise early and, despite the seeming effortlessness of his

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
Mark Jordan wrote. There is this patent that can be related: http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3781601.pdf MJ Thanks Mark. An interesting way to boost luminous efficiency but no direct info on OU heat without running an experiment. If you compare #18 table I (22.33 watts

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Mark Jordan There is this patent that can be related: http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3781601.pdf And ... check out the rather amazing claim on page 65 of this document, 2/3 down the left column. That would be clearly overunity yet... this patent has

Re: OFF TOPIC How to write spontaneously

2006-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Philip Winestone wrote: That's a little like: Sincerity is a great selling tool; if you can fake sincerity you've got it made. It is a little like that. But I think it is more like saying that a great actor can imitate any emotion, even if he does not actually feel it at the moment. A

Re: OFF TOPIC How to write spontaneously

2006-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Is the effect you want; it makes no difference how it came about. I meant: IT IS the effect you want . . . Great writers did not have to put up with voice input, either, those lucky duckies. I have not heard that Joseph Conrad said he married his wife, because, he said, she is a

OFF TOPIC How NOT to write

2006-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I have not heard that Joseph Conrad . . . It is NOT my day . . . Sigh . . . - Jed (resorting to typing by hand)

Don't ask, don't tell?

2006-05-01 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/stats.html Interesting that there are about 5000 patents which have been sequestered by Uncle Sam most probably relate to arms and explosives... but... Wonder how many of them related to energy? Notice that DoE puts in about 3-4 orders in some

Re: OFF TOPIC How to write spontaneously

2006-05-01 Thread Philip Winestone
Jed - good points... I'm a martial arts teacher (as well as a never-ending student), and it's true that one practises and practises so that one can act spontaneously... and totally intuitively. In other words, practise is essential so that one can eliminate the need for the intellect, and thus

RE: Don't ask, don't tell?

2006-05-01 Thread Mark Goldes
During the Clinton years, I heard that almost the only inventions that were classified were related to crypto. NSA did not want advanced crypto systems public. Since this administration came to power that may have changed, possibly dramatically. Mark From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
A "Remanufactured" 12 volt lead-acid battery seems like an easier/cheaper way to make a "Joe Cell". The charged 12 volt utility batteries used in lawn mowers etc usually sell for $25.00 if you don't have a trade-in. But you would have to flush out the electrolyte using baking soda to neutralize

Record month at LENR-CANR

2006-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I hope this indicates a trend. See: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads

Re: Don't ask, don't tell?

2006-05-01 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Jones Beene http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/stats.html    Interesting that there are about 5000 patents which have been sequestered by Uncle Sam most probably relate to arms and explosives... but...    Wonder how many of them related to energy?

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
Let's find out if nature's thermodynamics allows an engine to run on damp air created by using the evaporative cooling effect (Venturi aspiration on water) on the incoming air, and using the 4 cycle engine to optimize the INVERSION TEMPERATURE so that during the power stroke the EXPANDING GAS

Re: Hydrino orgone

2006-05-01 Thread Frederick Sparber
Posted earlier: IOW. The "Joe Cell" may turn out to be a Red Herring. I meant it may not need to produce O, OH, and H, H2 or H3O, but, the electrolysis heat from the battery may provide the heat for vaporizing the water, SATURATED STEAM TABLE CALCULATOR: (and more)