[Vo]:Auto cancel on Ed Storm's book from Walmart

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
I just got a notice from Walmart that shipping of Ed Storm's book *The Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction* is delayed. If you read it carefully though it says if it doesn't ship in 10 days they will CANCEL YOUR ORDER if you don't contact them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Horace

[Vo]:vort messages Resent to: undisclosed-recipients: ;

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
The vortex-l posts started to show up with Resent to: undisclosed- recipients: ; on June 28. I wonder who the undisclosed- recipients: ; are? Regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:vort messages Resent to: undisclosed-recipients: ;

2007-07-02 Thread Esa Ruoho
i recommend thinking that undisclosed-recipients = people who have subscribed to the vortex-list. On 02/07/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vortex-l posts started to show up with Resent to: undisclosed- recipients: ; on June 28. I wonder who the undisclosed- recipients: ;

[Vo]:Loss of right to patent

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
This subject is covered in: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/consolidated_laws.pdf page L-21. It is also important to read any sections with the character string abandon. Regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:vort messages Resent to: undisclosed-recipients: ;

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
Why then was this change just made on June 28? It wasn't necessary before that. On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:06 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: i recommend thinking that undisclosed-recipients = people who have subscribed to the vortex-list. On 02/07/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-02 Thread Nick Palmer
Paul Lowrance wrote (about Horace): I was brief because of our last encounter, in which you assumed error in my sentence. Fact is my sentence did not contain enough information to make such a determination, and therefore you should have asked. There WAS error in the sentence because it was

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-02 Thread Michael Foster
Nick Palmer wrote: P.S. When I referenced Alice through the Looking Glass originally I stated that it was the Red Queen who claimed that words mean etc. I was wrong, it was Humpty Dumpty. I would have welcomed correction... That's OK, Nick. I just misspelled leisurely and no one corrected

Re: [Vo]:Auto cancel on Ed Storm's book from Walmart

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 2, 2007, at 12:43 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: I just got a notice from Walmart that shipping of Ed Storm's book *The Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction* is delayed. If you read it carefully though it says if it doesn't ship in 10 days they will CANCEL YOUR ORDER if you don't

[Vo]:The H2O Dimer

2007-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
Free energy schemes are a dime a dozen these days Here's my 2 cents worth for near-Independence-Day (energy independence). Perhaps someone can raise the ante to a dime. The water dimer consists of two water molecules loosely bound by a hydrogen bond. It is the smallest water cluster

Re: [Vo]:The H2O Dimer

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 2, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The bond does have net extractable energy which can be replenished easily by exposure to sunlight. In fact - it would seem from the experiments, that by just breaking this bond in humid air, as much as 4,000 cal/mol of energy is released.

Re: [Vo]:The H2O Dimer

2007-07-02 Thread Michel Jullian
Hi Jones, In fact - it would seem from the experiments, that by just breaking this bond in humid air, as much as 4,000 cal/mol of energy is released. Absorbed you mean? Evaporating the (H2O)2 dimer into unbounded H2O's , like evaporating liquid water (combination of n-mers), should absorb

Re: [Vo]:The H2O Dimer

2007-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
Good points made by Michel and Horace, as I was heavily influenced in this thought (at the time I read the Paynter paper) by the Graneau work. Even now, I am not sure whether their assertion is wrong or right, but the same general idea of the bond formation process absorbing energy is also

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Properties

2007-07-02 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:55:41 -0700: Hi, [snip] oops - (my copy editor is late arriving, once again) and so the neutron being about ~1838 times more massive ... should be more massive than an electron... and there are certain to be other errors of haste. BTW

[Vo]:Quark mass

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
Wikipedia seems a bit imprecise on the common up and down quark mass. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark I wonder if the problem is the degree of nucleus excitation. The up and down quark mass seem fairly straightforward to me (in my simplistic Newtonian pea brained way of

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Properties

2007-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
--- Robin van Spaandonk Perhaps one implication is that each that each quark comprises a pair of particles, each with a mass Pi^5 times that of the electron. Well... Don't keep us in suspense...or are we supposed to put on a copy of Firesign and try to guess the disease before it's too late

Re: [Vo]:Griggs Device Observations

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 1, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Michael Foster wrote: If you think you're upset about my Griggs experiments, you're really going to be pissed when I tell you about my pulsed deuterium plasma experiments using a cathode of activated porous carbon with vapor deposited palladium. This line of

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Properties

2007-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
... shouldn't have been so precise - a better cadndidate is the tau neutrino. Upper bound on the tau-neutrino mass from the previously unobserved decay mode is 157 MeV

Re: [Vo]:Quark mass

2007-07-02 Thread Jones Beene
--- Horace Heffner Md = 313.471 ...curious cross connection with the other thread. This is close to twice the mass of the 156.7 'mystery particle,' which could be a tau neutrino

Re: [Vo]:vort messages Resent to: undisclosed-recipients: ;

2007-07-02 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Horace Heffner wrote: The vortex-l posts started to show up with Resent to: undisclosed- recipients: ; on June 28. I wonder who the undisclosed- recipients: ; are? Which messages? Not this one (for example.) My own incoming vortex-L message stream has no resent-to line

Re: [Vo]:vort messages Resent to: undisclosed-recipients: ;

2007-07-02 Thread John Berry
Just a test, I'm BCC'ing this to a fake email address. On 7/3/07, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Horace Heffner wrote: The vortex-l posts started to show up with Resent to: undisclosed- recipients: ; on June 28. I wonder who the undisclosed- recipients: ; are?

Re: [Vo]:vort messages Resent to: undisclosed-recipients: ;

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, William Beaty wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Horace Heffner wrote: The vortex-l posts started to show up with Resent to: undisclosed- recipients: ; on June 28. I wonder who the undisclosed- recipients: ; are? Which messages? Not this one (for example.) Yep,

Re: [Vo]:vort messages Resent to: undisclosed-recipients: ;

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, William Beaty wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Horace Heffner wrote: The vortex-l posts started to show up with Resent to: undisclosed- recipients: ; on June 28. I wonder who the undisclosed- recipients: ; are? Which messages? Not this one (for example.) Yep,

[Vo]:Re: Quark mass

2007-07-02 Thread Horace Heffner
Mp = mass of proton (2 up + 1 down) = 938.272 MeV/c^2 Mn = mass of neutron (1 up 2 down) = 939.566 MeV/c^2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron Shows neuron beta decay as the decay: down - up + electron + anti-neutrino Green, in *The Fabric of the Cosmos* gives the mass of the up quark as