[Vo]:Znidarsic's frequency tested at Fermilab ?
Hello Frank Znidarsic, An excerpt from: http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-10-holometer-universe-hologram.html This idea of the holographic universe http://www.physorg.com/tags/universe/ is not new, but physicists at Fermilab are now designing an experiment to test the idea. Fermilab particle astrophysicist Craig Hogan and others are building a holographic interferometer http://www.physorg.com/tags/interferometer/, or holometer, in an attempt to detect the noise inherent in spacetime, which would reveal the *ultimate maximum frequency limit imposed by nature*. ... After taking these precautions, any detected high-frequency noise could be the jitter of spacetime itself, or holographic noise. *The noise is expected to have a frequency of a million cycles per second*, which is a thousand times higher than what the human ear can hear, noted Fermilab experimental physicist Aaron Chou. If the experiment does find this holographic noise, it would be the first glimpse beyond our three-dimensional illusion and into the universe's true two-dimensional nature at the Planck scale. article http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-10-holometer-universe-hologram.html Though Craig Hogan says 'frequency' of one million cycles, could he be lightly referring to the Znidarsic 1,094,000 meter-second? -DonEMitchell
Re: [Vo]:Znidarsic's frequency tested at Fermilab ?
*The noise is expected to have a frequency of a million cycles per second*, which is a thousand times higher than what the human ear can hear, noted Fermilab experimental physicist Aaron Chou. 1,000,000 / 20,000 = 50 times higher than a human can hear. T
Re: [Vo]:Znidarsic's frequency tested at Fermilab ?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: *The noise is expected to have a frequency of a million cycles per second*, which is a thousand times higher than what the human ear can hear, noted Fermilab experimental physicist Aaron Chou. 1,000,000 / 20,000 = 50 times higher than a human can hear. T The comments from the original article are interesting: http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2010/10/20/fermilab-scientists-to-test-hypothesis-of-holographic-universe/ Particularly: I’m thinking that the place we call “heaven” is actually the original film from where our universe is projected from. T
RE: [Vo]:Znidarsic's frequency tested at Fermilab ?
Another good comment, Terry: In 1991 author Michael Talbot released a book entitled The Holographic Universe that already elaborated this theory. This is not Craig Hogans original mind-boggling proposition whatsoever. Indeed, this comment is beyond correct - and what we are left with is not only a very poor effort at science journalism, but one that is riding on top of a huge waste of taxpayer resources, if we look at this effort vis-à-vis shifting the funds over to alternative energy RD. (actually, I am in favor of doing both) The Wiki synopsis of Talbots excellent book: After examining the work of physicist David Bohm and neurophysiologist Karl Pribram, both of whom independently arrived at holographic theories or models of the universe, the book argues that a holographic model could possibly explain supersymmetry and also various paranormal and anomalous phenomena and provide a basis for mystical experience I would highly recommend this book to everyone at Fermilab, and especially astrophysicist Craig Hogan, and the subpar tech writer who missed the nearly 20 year old story of how Talbot, not Hogan, made waves with a mind-boggling proposition: The 3D universe in which we appear to live is no more than a hologram. As for implications, one more reason to catch Inception which is one of those action movies that turn out to be deep and meaningful - like Matrix with all kinds of implication which were probably unintended, but that makes them all the more interesting. From: Terry Blanton Im thinking that the place we call heaven is actually the original film from where our universe is projected from.
Re: [Vo]:Znidarsic's frequency tested at Fermilab ?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: … reminds me of a classic error in Fermilab’s shameful history J http://home.fnal.gov/~becher/article/bush_finds_error.html Ah, all you need do is peel back the layers to find the real W particle. ;-) T
Re: [Vo]:Znidarsic's frequency tested at Fermilab ?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:36 AM, d...@groupkos.com d...@groupkos.com wrote: This topic significance was changed to a thread-blocker, while the topic is fringe-science at its best. Hmm, well, uh, sorry, I did not intend to block your thread. I guess we are all feeling a bit peckish anticipating tonight's goodies. It's just that, unlike you, I can't relate a meter-second to a cycle/second in any profound way regardless of the scalar value. It's probably my own mental deficiencies, which, BTW seem to progress daily. I also have a problem focusing (A SQUIRREL!!). Oh. T
[Vo]:Another Test
Charter Mail refusing recognize Vortex-l as legitimate email. Difficult to fix. Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:High frequency UV radiation = VUV
Hi, Is there a any reason that you did not include the reactive near-field effect, which is well-known in antenna design ? . it should relate to acceleration in Casimir cavities . Jones From: Wm. Scott Smith Subject: RE: [Vo]:High frequency UV radiation = VUV David, I think you might find my propulsion project interesting. Here is a paper I presented at the National Space Society Conference in Chicago this last May and to the Natural Philosophy Alliance Conference in June. Please let me know what you think and if you would like to participate. In addition to this approach, I have also filed a patent on optical approaches to reflecting more ZPE EM Flux from one side of a Quantum Sail than from the other side, since the reflected light imparts twice as much momentum as the absorbed-light, thus producing a direct physical force from the Quantum Vacuum. http://z-pec.yolasite.com/resources/Short%20NSS%20Conference%20Paper.pdf Scott +509 326 1307 _ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:22:45 +0200 From: davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com The special thing about 159 nm is that it is almost entirely absorbed by air and ionizing it. Ionized air can be affected by other radiation to be heated. Heating localized air around a body makes a push on it. I want to elaborate with propulsion of this kind. UV with shorter wavelength than 159 nm is called VUV, vacuum ultraviolet, since it can only exist in vacuum. It is absorbed by air. Very funny would be to have tunable UV on the border between UV and VUV. The absorption rate would then be adjustable and the radiation could pass arbitrarily far away from the radiation source. I want to heat air around an object as described in my arXiv article on preventing shock waves. I think that the same technique can be used to achieve propulsion as well and it could be the way that flying saucers operate. They fly with apparently no moving parts and UV/VUV in combination with heating could have the same effect. I see that many vacuum UV lights can be bought: http://www.google.se/search?hl=en http://www.google.se/search?hl=enq=vacuum+uv+lamp q=vacuum+uv+lamp David David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370
[Vo]:Test: Message sent from charter.net
My Charter.net email account is misbehaving and has been for over a week. Tells me all vortex-l messages are spam but I can locate the SPAM folder where presumably all the vortex-l messages have been shunted to. Charter sez I need to send a sample to their special unblocking staff, but if I can't locate a sample I can't give them anything. I want to throttle Charter. Fortunately, Vortex-l works fine from my Google account. Steven Vincent Johnson
Re: [Vo]:video out that is explaining some of my math
From Frank, I like it. It is good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8Q1lYRrCA Frank Znidarsic I viewed the video. I know I'll need to view it several more times. Despite my initial concerns I continue to agree with you that the narrator appears to have done a pretty good job of translating your work into an audio/video graphic format that is more easily digestible. I'd like Miles Mathis to take a look at your work. He's a classicalist, like you as well. Maybe I'll try jerking his chain in a few days. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:High frequency UV radiation = VUV
This may apply to the holo projection thread as well as this one but I have been reading the old Hotson articles in IE 42-44 (I think) and can see where the epo when energized to reveal a particle pair oscillating along a non spatial axis could explain a relativistic view of casimir effect or be seen as a massless projector able to create electrons and positrons in our 3 space. He mentions the pair separating and oscilating to become observable but refers to this as motion -a semantic issue perhaps but the same one that confuses the ether since by definition motion defines spatial displacement and this is a nonspatial axis from our perspective. He gets into a temporal equivalent of planks constant - a time quantum that can vary based on the magnitude of this spinor field which I think is proportional to the local energy density - again just like observers at different depths in a gravity well the difference is unobservable to us 3 space creatures. I would speculate his epos inside a casimir cavity vs outside a cavity is only a difference of his time quantum which is changing and the seemingly suppressed epo pairs are still present only appearing shorter in wavelength to the observer outside the cavity who's time quantum was not supressed. Fran
Re: [Vo]:Test: Message sent from charter.net
At 03:37 PM 10/31/2010, OrionWorks wrote: My Charter.net email account is misbehaving and has been for over a week. Tells me all vortex-l messages are spam but I can locate the SPAM folder where presumably all the vortex-l messages have been shunted to. Charter sez I need to send a sample to their special unblocking staff, but if I can't locate a sample I can't give them anything. I want to throttle Charter. Instead of throttling them, how about sending them what they want? An example of a mail that bounced, as received by your google account. You should sent complete headers. If you need a vortex mail with complete headers, ask, one of us will send you a set. You should be able to receive it, since it will have headers from an individual sender Charter also should be able to tell you where the rejected messages are stored. How did Charter tell you that the messages are spam? Fortunately, Vortex-l works fine from my Google account. Argument for having two accounts. It's really irritating when I have trouble with my domain host and can't get email that if I need to get a password, I can't receive it etc.
Re: [Vo]:video out that is explaining some of my math
Yes anybody can look at it. I will send you my ACS paper if you write to me. Lane put it up on a file share on his page. I was surprised by Lane. He is young man with a shaved head and earrings. I would naturally avoid him on the street. He as had some trouble in the past. He has picked up and ran with the ball. He has even pointed out some arguments of mine that were circular and week. He believes that we are going to change the world. I have told him to keep some balance in his life so he does not get depressed when it does not happen. Thank you Lane. I hope he gets a reward. I have had a bit of good news. One of the largest electronic companies is seriously interested in my cell phone adapter. I cant say much about because I singed a non disclosure. I hope to put the thing in may cars. It is cheep, works well, and is fun. Every time a car goes down the freeway, in any city, world wide, there goes a buck for me. I hope it happens. I'm am tired of looking for a job as a condition of my unemployment. If this thing goes I will have no more of that. I am still after those nasty bed bugs. I have ideas on how to mechanically block them. This will be my next adventure if the cell phone things works out. I am getting some feed back. One guy turned into an atom went through the wall on his apt and saw me. He has not told anyone but me about this. Another bunch is trying to cover me with blood and save me from damnation. As they say in Spanish, Eye krumba! Frank Z -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 31, 2010 5:29 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:video out that is explaining some of my math From Frank, I like it. It is good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8Q1lYRrCA Frank Znidarsic I viewed the video. I know I'll need to view it several more times. espite my initial concerns I continue to agree with you that the arrator appears to have done a pretty good job of translating your ork into an audio/video graphic format that is more easily igestible. I'd like Miles Mathis to take a look at your work. He's a lassicalist, like you as well. Maybe I'll try jerking his chain in a ew days. Regards teven Vincent Johnson ww.OrionWorks.com ww.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire
I must admit, I thought the story about the bus to be too schmaltzy to be true. It was based on a factual incident but it still was too schmaltzy. It was a bus of tourists (the story doesn't exclude that they were tourist kids though...) but Philip died when his car was rammed by a bad driver - he did not sacrifice himself. I still think that this Mark guy using this story in the way he did still raises red flags. It all reeks of fantasy/hallucination/Walter Mitty. Nick Palmer On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it Blogspot - Sustainability and stuff according to Nick Palmer http://nickpalmer.blogspot.com
