My opinion is that this has to be taken quite seriously, the guy has bought
ready made nanoNickel and perhaps has found an additive similar to that
used by Rossi. Let's see what will Chan say in the following weeks.
Peter
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
Am 22.11.2011 08:43, schrieb Peter Gluck:
The Energy market being insatiable, the lack of a patent can be
compensted in part and temporary by speed, a commercial Blitzkrieg can
help - for a while.
2 million dollars per plant. 20 millions for a license, if this works
for a while, I would be
From what we recently learned, I suggest the prime funder for the E-Cat
purchases is one branch of the US military or government that has
engaged a civilian contractor to do the actual purchasing, do long term
testing of the E-Cats and to produce a report. Why? Rossi has revealed
the first
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=34#comment-126867
*
Andrea Rossi
November 21st, 2011 at 11:25 PM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=34#comment-126867
Dear Felipe From Chile:
You are right, we are organizing this.
BY THE WAY: WE COLLECT
Just placed my order for 10 x 10 kW plants. Will install them, at no
cost in my, by children and by friends homes. Rossi said in the radio
interview that they had cleared the certification issues and they
expected the 10 kW plants to be available in less than 12 months. With a
price of $5,400
On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:33 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Can you reference this Horace? The only one to follow up that I
know of is Dr. Stiffler.
I am still looking. I found a note on nano-particle thermal
propagation speed being alpha*c. See equation (2) of
On 2011-11-22 03:13, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=14#comment-125963
I posted a clearer version here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg56332.html
Cheers,
S.A.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
(7) So Fioravanti had good reasons to believe that the steam was dry.
He is obviously assuming dry steam. But if we're (or his company is) simply
supposed to accept that he had good reasons to believe that, then why
Great! Excuse me, Aussie, how did you place such order? Did you write to
the usual i...@leonardocorp1996.com, did you write as a comment JONP or how?
Thanks
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
wrote:
Just placed my order for 10 x 10 kW plants. Will
Used the usual email.
AG
On 11/22/2011 8:54 PM, Marcello Vitale wrote:
Great! Excuse me, Aussie, how did you place such order? Did you write
to the usual i...@leonardocorp1996.com
mailto:i...@leonardocorp1996.com, did you write as a comment JONP or
how?
Thanks
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at
Wouldn't it be better to buy only 1 of 10kw? Smaller and much better to
take measurements. Anyway, you'll only be able to buy it in 2012...
2011/11/22 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-**physics.com/?p=510cpage=34#**
Sorry, 2013
2011/11/22 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
Wouldn't it be better to buy only 1 of 10kw? Smaller and much better to
take measurements. Anyway, you'll only be able to buy it in 2012...
2011/11/22 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
Joshua, I do not think that you have any means to tell what was the power
output profile of ecat during the test, because detailed data was ommitted
from the report. Therefore your argument about mysterious eight fold
instant power increase is nonsense.
On average ecat array's total power output
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Joshua, I do not think that you have any means to tell what was the power
output profile of ecat during the test, because detailed data was ommitted
from the report. Therefore your argument about mysterious eight
Peter Heckert wrote:
»There are 4 possibilities.
1) Rossi=false, Defkalion=false
2) Rossi=false, Defkalion=true
3) Rossi=true, Defkalion=false
4) Rossi=true, Defkalion=true»
My vote goes for 3). But even if Defkalion would make better ecats, there
is still the problem that markets are not
Am 22.11.2011 12:42, schrieb Jouni Valkonen:
Peter Heckert wrote:
»There are 4 possibilities.
1) Rossi=false, Defkalion=false
2) Rossi=false, Defkalion=true
3) Rossi=true, Defkalion=false
4) Rossi=true, Defkalion=true»
My vote goes for 3). But even if Defkalion would make better ecats,
there
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
It is Rossi that is *claiming* an 8-fold (actually closer to 7)
instant power increase. When the temperature is 99.9 degrees, if we
accept Rossi's flow rate, then the output power is about 66 kW. When
the temperature is
While it is almost certainly the case that by the time you take delivery in
or about 2013, the most critical questions surrounding the E-Cat will have
been answered, it is also almost certainly the case that Rossi will reach
the 10,000 customer waiting list before those questions have been
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Just placed my order for 10 x 10 kW plants.
Have you received any acknowledgement of your order? Or in what order
your order is in? What number in line you have?
I would highly recommend you await Defkalion's
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
There are 4 possibilities.
1) Rossi=false, Defkalion=false
2) Rossi=false, Defkalion=true
3) Rossi=true, Defkalion=false
4) Rossi=true, Defkalion=true
There are only two possibilities, #1 and #4. I say that because when
Defkalion held a press
Peer reviewed:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
[Someone here found Mr. Cage's e-mail address, and suggested I contact
him about the memo. I just sent him this message.]
Subject: Do you recall the intent of this memo?
Dear Mr. Cage,
I run an online library of scientific papers about cold fusion. We have
a bibliography of 3000 papers and
LinkedIn
Cédric Mannu requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
--
michael,
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Cédric
Accept invitation from Cédric Mannu
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
[Someone here found Mr. Cage's e-mail address, and suggested I contact him
about the memo. I just sent him this message.]
Subject: Do you recall the intent of this memo?
Dear Mr. Cage,
I gather this is a personal
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
The behaviour of the fluid during boiling is highly dependent upon
the excess temperature, delta T = T_s - T_sat, measured from the
boiling point of the fluid. Figure 9-1 indicates six different
regimes for
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
1) Rossi cannot know if Defkalions claims are true, but he has nothing to
offer.
- Rossi will continue to sell fake 1MW plants as fast as possible.
I don't think so. If the plants are fake *and* Rossi sells them,
Wow, I never thought about that!
2011/11/22 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
If Rossi's plants are fake, it's most likely that he is not selling them.
So how does he make (or attempt to make) money from this? As I've said
before -- most likely from defrauding secret investors who have signed
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I assume some sort of test was either underway or planned, because the
Minister of Energy himself was at the press conference, and he was also
smiling and acting agreeable. If the Ministry had no knowledge of any
It will be fascinating to see what Defkalion provides in their big reveal
claimed to happen around the 28th of this month. If it fizzles, they are
probably frauds.
If it's fizzling, it means it's probably hot!
Oh, you mean, if they don't show the products on the 28th they are
frauds? You've
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, you mean, if they don't show the products on the 28th they are
frauds? You've never been on a project that was delayed at the last
minute?
It's not remotely the last minute. Defkalion has been saying they have a
Where did you get that 28th date? Defkalion just said something like in the
next few weeks.
2011/11/22 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, you mean, if they don't show the products on the 28th they are
frauds? You've
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Where did you get that 28th date? Defkalion just said something like in
the next few weeks.
We will release a complete outline of our developments wthin the next two
weeks.
The poor's lamb can't become a ram.
What could that mean? (Sorry if I'm especially dense this morning)
I guess it goes until Sat, Dec 3rd...
2011/11/22 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Where did you get that 28th date? Defkalion just said something like in
the next few weeks.
We will release a complete outline of our
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess it goes until Sat, Dec 3rd...
The original newsrelease is dated 14 November so I make the date to be 28
November. Don't hold your breath!
On 2011-11-22 18:43, Mary Yugo wrote:
The poor's lamb can't become a ram.
What could that mean? (Sorry if I'm especially dense this morning)
Probably that, according to Stremmenos, Defkalion GT don't have the
resources (not necessarily economic) to develop an idea into something
big and
Yeah, but the second week ends in Dec3rd
2011/11/22 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
I guess it goes until Sat, Dec 3rd...
The original newsrelease is dated 14 November so I make the date to be 28
November. Don't
What was Stremmenos implying when he sed:
The poor's lamb can't become a ram.
From Akira:
...
Probably that, according to Stremmenos, Defkalion GT don't
have the resources (not necessarily economic) to develop an
idea into something big and workable as Rossi is supposedly
doing.
IMO:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I gather this is a personal email address? After all, I wouldn't
expect him to be working in that job still after almost 23 years.
Correct. He is an impressive person:
The memo is from 1989. That was when PF's cold fusion was popular and the
patent office probably got many thousands of applications in a huge flood.
They would have had to organize a method of segregating them out and
assigning them to specialists who had familiarized themselves with patent
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh well . . . the first reliable historical report of airplane flight was
published in Gleanings in Bee Culture by Amos Root, in 1905. Still
published:
http://www.beeculture.com/
Now only in archive.com:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
They would have had to organize a method of segregating them out and
assigning them to specialists who had familiarized themselves with patent
issues in the field. I suspect that's what the memo was about rather than
some nefarious plot by some unknown
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
The Patent Office did, in fact, suppress cold fusion applications in 1989.
They still do. This is not debatable. All applications are summarily
rejected with a form letter that
At 12:50 AM 11/22/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=34#comment-126867
Dear Felipe From Chile:
You are right, we are organizing this.
BY THE WAY: WE COLLECT FROM NOW THE NAMES OF ALL THE
PERSONS ANDREA ROSSI, LEONARDO CORP.
(PRESIDENT)
Hello group,
This is again via 22passi:
http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/domani-rossi-alla-state-house-del.html
According to Sen. Bruce Tarr, Andrea Rossi, the Italian scientist who claims to have
developed the world's first nuclear cold fusion reactor is coming to the State House
This cannot be a scam! Even MY must be convinced now!
2011/11/22 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
Hello group,
This is again via 22passi:
http://22passi.blogspot.com/**2011/11/domani-rossi-alla-**
At 02:31 PM 11/21/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is there anything written about nuclear
catalysts other than related to LENR/cold fusion energy
generation? I never heard of a nuclear catalyst before Rossi. I've
always thought of a catalyst as a substance which changes the
Wow! First Rossi is on the Tom and Doug show. Now he is at
the Massachusetts State House. Where will he turn up next? He makes the
Energizer Bunny look lackadaisical.
Seriously, I admire his tenacity. Before the Oct. 28 demo, he wrote to me
something like: if it does not work, we will try again,
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
This cannot be a scam! Even MY must be convinced now!
Of course it can be a scam. And the announcement can be wrong. Let's wait
and see if it happens, what Rossi says, and what evidence he presents.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Look up Muon-Catalyzed Fusion. (Recently discussed with Joshua Crude).
http://www.mail-archive.com/**vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg56320.**htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg56320.html
Thanks. Will do.
If this appeared here before, my apology but I don't think I saw it. Rossi
had this to say in his blog:
Andrea Rossi
November 21st, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Dear “XY”:
I did not approve your comment, because contains very big stupidities, and
I want not to expose you and your name to a bad portrait.
At 11:30 AM 11/22/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote:
This cannot be a scam! Even MY must be convinced now!
Of course it's a scam. It's just a bigger scam.
Or not ... I pre-ordered mine.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote:
Rossi plans to visit Tuesday morning for two days of meeting with
government officials and representatives of the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology,
MIT? How is that possible. MIT is the epicenter of the
This is somewhat off topic, but we have discussed it here. Martin Ford, the
author of The Lights in the Tunnel sent me this message. I am drafting a
thoughtful, amusing yet hard-hitting review for Amazon. If I do say so
myself. People who have not read the book should probably refrain from
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Quoting Rossi:
1- In the test of October 28th the water flow has been measured by the two
flowmeters that the Consultant of the Customer has put just minutes before
the test. He always checked the water flow, and the
I can't help but recall that the president of Ireland, Mary McAleese,
actually visited Steorn's offices and looked at the stuff as a part of
some technology outreach sort of thing. That was after most of the
scientific community realized and had said they were most likely to be
a fraud. Of
This is like saying that because a theatre gradually filled with
people over two hours it is implausible to believe the same theatre
emptied of people in minutes after a fire alarm.
However it is only implausible based on the assumption there is only
one entrance/exit or the entrance/exit is
Rossi uses the latent heat of deception to make a 30-year thermodynamics
veteran look bad, and to get an audience with archenemies of cold fusion at
MIT.
Heh! Love that latent heat of deception. But I don't quite get how
a meeting with some really smart people from MIT would help Rossi (if
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
myself. People who have not read the book should probably refrain from
uploading a review. I'm talkin' to you, Mary Yugo.
Why talk to me? I don't often write Amazon book reviews. And the guy
has a 4 star out of 5
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
This is like saying that because a theatre gradually filled with
people over two hours it is implausible to believe the same theatre
emptied of people in minutes after a fire alarm.
However it is only implausible based
It is not in the interest of the US Patent Office or the US government
to suppress cold fusion devices -- to the contrary, discovery of a
robust energy generator that worked with cold fusion would be
spectacular for the economy of the US and would reduce or eliminate
dependence on foreign
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
MIT? How is that possible. MIT is the epicenter of the anti-cold fusion
conspiracy...
Now THAT's hilarious!
With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other hand
they were simultaneously bolting
Mary Yugo wrote:
But I don't like to try to predict what may happen.
Oh come now. You have incessantly predicted what would happen! Again,
and again you have predicted that Rossi is a scammer who will be caught.
You have reached the point where I and others are on the verge of
blocking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U
What a surprise !
(lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- Hi,
google!)
James Bowery wrote:
With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other
hand they were simultaneously bolting out of the gate running a
scatter-shot patent mill for Hagelstein.
Well, seriously, MIT is a large organization with many different people
who have different
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I prefer opponents such as Robert Park who are proud of the fact that
they have helped suppress this field, and who brag about the lives they
have disrupted and destroyed.
Are you making stuff up again, or do you
At 12:25 PM 11/22/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U
What a surprise !
Gee .. they even made the University of Baloney joke.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone remember this? In 2002, (or thereabouts), Randell Mills
applied for a patent for his method of creating heat with a device in a
similar fashion to the method that Rossi is using, and his patent was
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery wrote:
With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other
hand they were simultaneously bolting out of the gate running a
scatter-shot patent mill for Hagelstein.
Well, seriously,
Mary Yugo wrote:
But I don't like to try to predict what may happen.
Oh come now. You have incessantly predicted what would happen!
Again, and again you have predicted that Rossi is a scammer who
will be caught.
My recollection is that she has always said that he *acts* like a
scammer.
This is unadulterated ignorance. Randi has not learned a thing since I
last heard from him. His description of cold fusion and this machine are
wrong in every detail.
This is what we have to expect. If Rossi hits the mass media there will
dozens and then hundreds of people as ignorant as he
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh come now. You have incessantly predicted what would happen! Again, and
again you have predicted that Rossi is a scammer who will be caught.
If you quote me, please do it accurately.
I have said Rossi *behaves* in
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This is what we have to expect. If Rossi hits the mass media there will
dozens and then hundreds of people as ignorant as he is saying these same
things.
Rossi knows that as well as I do. It is a shame he will not do
On 2011-11-22 21:49, Jed Rothwell wrote:
[...] because he and
others refuse to let me upload photos of his heater that ran for years,
Would the photos you mention by any chance be those that can be seen in
this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGmgTo2Kw1U
At minute 2:11, 3:16, 4:03 ?
vorl bek wrote:
My recollection is that she has always said that he *acts* like a
scammer.
Which is what anyone who is not a True Believer would say, in my
humble opinion, given the way he acts.
In that case there are no true believers here, since we all agree he
acts like a scammer. I have
Craig,
I think it was earlier than that, and you could be referring to Dr. Peter
Zimmerman, not Park. Robin may remember this incident, as it was reported on
HSG forum some years ago.
If memory serves, at the time this person (either Park of PZ or someone else)
protested vehemently - not only
This was a patent maneuver. They needed to have the fact that they had a
flight published in order to head off anyone else who tried to patent on
the basis of prior art if it came to a legal wrangle (which it did). This
is down to the concept of the 'diligent researcher' who could find things
out
Mary Yugo wrote:
Yup. He could stop the whole negative press mess in a heartbeat with
one simple, cheap, comparatively quick and easy to perform test that
would not involve his equipment and methods.
Since he is not a fool, I am sure he knows that. He has known it for
years. He has never
Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Would the photos you mention by any chance be those that can be seen
in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGmgTo2Kw1U
At minute 2:11, 3:16, 4:03 ?
Nope, not the same one. That's a gorblimey gadget isn't it?
- Jed
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
James Bowery wrote:
With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other
hand they were simultaneously bolting out of the
Robert Lynn wrote:
This was a patent maneuver. They needed to have the fact that they
had a flight published in order to head off anyone else who tried to
patent on the basis of prior art if it came to a legal wrangle (which
it did).
I do not think so. Amos Root showed up out of the blue
Joshua Cude, whose messages I deep-six, apparently wrote:
But the claim is that those beneficiaries of government largess at the MIT
have been able to squelch cold fusion research on the entire planet.
They would if they could. They did their best to squelch it. Working on
their own they could
We have started a process to build trust and prove reliability. I
suggest that by the time Rossi is asking for money, there will be more
than ample proof.
AG
On 11/23/2011 1:07 AM, James Bowery wrote:
How are you going to deal with this risk, Aussie Guy?
Some interesting articles:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project143.htm
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2000/08/more_on_cold_fusion_and_the_patent_office.html
http://haroldaspden.com/essays/09.htm
My intent to order has been acknowledged. No number in the queue was
given. I have more doubts about Defkalion than Rossi.
AG
On 11/23/2011 1:38 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Just placed my order for 10 x 10 kW
Frank,
I am starting to see things from your perspective, if you are
correct about propagation speed inside a nucleus being faster than C and if
this holds true for super atoms of condensed matter then you have a potential
force converter where energy supplied by normal
At 02:31 PM 11/21/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is there anything written about nuclear catalysts
other than related to LENR/cold fusion energy generation? I never heard of
a nuclear catalyst before Rossi. I've always thought of a catalyst as a
substance which changes the rate
Maybe because it works as claimed and MIT wants to gain the academic
high ground by verifying Rossi and then asking the US gov for LOTS of
research money to study and improve the reaction? Think about thousands
of container ships full of US made E-Cats sailing to all points of the
compass.
What do you think the 1 MW test was? It was independent testing and
verification. You think the same US military research contractor that
bought the first reactor ordered 13 more 1 MW reactors because they were
not satisfied with the results of their tests? We have NO idea of what
is really
From another forum :
I want to corral some faster-than-light neutrinos to do my
stock picks
for me.
My reply :
The financial quants are already laying a dedicated transatlantic
fiber cable so they get the news quicker.
I'll bet they're talking to folks about how to send messages with
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Maybe because it works as claimed and MIT wants to gain the academic high
ground by verifying Rossi and then asking the US gov for LOTS of research
money to study and improve the reaction?
But that doesn't fit
I am starting to see things from your perspective, if you are correct about
propagation speed inside a nucleus being faster than C and if this holds
true for super atoms of condensed matter then you have a potential force
converter where energy supplied by normal propagation limit of C now has an
Will anyone go there? It's today (11/23).
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
On 2011-11-22 20:18, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
According to Sen. Bruce Tarr [...]
This is Sen. Bruce Tarr's blog where probably the story originated:
http://www.tarrtalk.com/2011/11/cold-fusion-inventor-comes-to-boston.html
According to him, Rossi's already arrived in Boston this morning.
It
Someone was kind enough to dig up this document:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/2100_2107_01.htm
QUOTE:
Situations where an invention is found to be inoperative and therefore
lacking in utility are rare, and rejections maintained solely on this
ground by a Federal court
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, it is clear from this document and others that the management at
the Patent Office, the DoE and at some other leading institutions in the
United States do not believe that cold fusion exists.
That's called
OOPS - got that backwards... Frank's Speed of sound in nucleus is many times
times SLOWER than C!
[snip] Light or electromagnetic radiation in vacuum has a much higher velocity,
c = 299,792,458 metres per second, nearly 300 times as large as the velocity of
sound in the nucleus of atoms
It has been said it is difficult for a man to believe what his paycheck
demands he not believe.
AG
On 11/23/2011 9:54 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
All that cold fusion literature was available to the DOE panel of 18
experts, and they judged that the occurrence of low energy nuclear
reactions is
Joshua, when did the DOE panel you refer to take place?
Lawrence
On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, it is clear from this document and others that the management at the
Patent Office,
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:55 PM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.comwrote:
Joshua, when did the DOE panel you refer to take place?
2004. I think the McKubre papers Rothwell is referring to predate that.
There has not been much (if anything) published under peer-review about
excess heat
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