Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Gigi DiMarco
I think Rossi is adding to English more words, coming in some sense from Italian, than in the last 5 centuries. Clownerie has been translated by Akira into travesty. Clownerie is another Rossi's invention, if I can imagine what take places into his brain I think the right path is clown ==

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Gluck
I disagree. I have already told that CLOWN for the US people is an evil person and Rossi is using this meaning. Have seen some US movies re clowns who were very bad people, sadistic. Pagliacci has a more tragic conotation. The second greatest enemy of Rossi is a snake. The third is a clown. The

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
There is absolutely no excuse why Rossi wouldn't accept this offer. I was sitting on the fence with Rossi, but now I'm leaning more towards him being a fraud. It is a million dollars for a simple test. It would be a much better use of his time than writing about snakes and clowns on his

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed: Stirling Allen wrote: . . . I walked by a group of younger people milling about outside an establishment (some kind of party). I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and started saying, May I have your attention, please. I would like to tell you about some hope that you have for

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Chemical Engineer
I agree. Freedom of Speech and expression are a great thing. He is just a messenger of potential change. You don't hear much coming from the people of Iran or North Korea these days and that is very unfortunate. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg question from Francis

2012-02-15 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I have often wondered if both types of Rydberg matter can have a relativistic interpretation. Recent BLP papers now refer to the hydrino as inverse Rydberg hydrogen in keeping with the Naudts 2005 paper paper, On the hydrino state of the relativistic hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jarold: There is absolutely no excuse why Rossi wouldn't accept this offer. I was sitting on the fence with Rossi, but now I'm leaning more towards him being a fraud. ... Many here (including myself) wish that Rossi would accept the challenge. However, Rossi is under no obligation to

RE: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Peter B
Chem Eng I agree.. Me too Millions of people find it really easy to criticise and pull others down , I call them ordinary men Yet a few people want to lift others up, encourage them even while realising there is a bit of hype man would, these people are Extrodinary Gentlemen

[Vo]:Enriching Ni - actually quite cheap

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Lynn
I know this has been discussed before, but I thought there might be some interest in rough estimates of energy costs of Ni enrichment, just in case it turns out to be critical for improving power density or decreasing radioactivity of products. With Ni it appears you are most interested in Ni62

[Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Leguillon
From Jarold: /snip/ and what does that say about Defkalion who is only in the LENR business because of Rossi. If no valid tests are performed by either group by March 31, this whole thing is most likely a fraud. /snip/ Defkalion GT was not invited and did not participate officially in any

[Vo]:Russ George's May 6, 1999 Cold Fusion Times article?

2012-02-15 Thread James Bowery
I'm attempting to obtain a copy of Production of Helium-Four from Deuterium Using Nano-Particle Palladium by Russ George, published in the May 6, 1999 issue of Cold Fusion Times on page 1.

[Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Dust fusion ? Part 1 has Part 1, 11min http://youtu.be/57ap7iow1c0 In a real time demonstration George Egely claims carbon can be transformed into iron using a microwave oven. He tests graphite powder before and after the procedure with a magnet for presence of iron. Part 2, 14min

Re: [Vo]:Russ George's May 6, 1999 Cold Fusion Times article?

2012-02-15 Thread pagnucco
Hopefully, this helps - http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2007/1999-RussGeorge-APS-Presentation.pdf I'm attempting to obtain a copy of Production of Helium-Four from Deuterium Using Nano-Particle Palladium by Russ George, published in the May 6, 1999 issue of Cold Fusion Times on page 1.

Re: [Vo]:Enriching Ni - actually quite cheap

2012-02-15 Thread Axil Axil
In the far future, tungsten and molybdenum could be used to replace nickel in the cold fusion hydrogen reactor to take advantage of the higher thermal efficiencies made possible by using these metals. Doing so will enable very high temperature applications to replace heat sources like coal and

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
What was the point in the 1 MW sales then if he didn't need the money? Couldn't he have partnered with someone without the wasted time on the 1 MW plant? You really don't think his customers are reverse engineering his technology if it is a 64 trillion dollar business? Dick Smith is just

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Is a woman suppose to feel embarressed for trying to breast feed her baby in a public venue? harry On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Jed: Stirling Allen wrote: . . . I walked by a group of younger people milling about

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Chemical Engineer
Only if the baby is her husband... On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Is a woman suppose to feel embarressed for trying to breast feed her baby in a public venue? harry On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson

RE: [Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.ferrocarbon.it/deliv_b.html From: Harry Veeder Dust fusion ? Part 1 has Part 1, 11min http://youtu.be/57ap7iow1c0 In a real time demonstration George Egely claims carbon can be transformed into iron using a microwave oven. He tests graphite powder before and after

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
I have been very patient with all of this. I was willing to wait until March 31, and even then I wouldn't consider it 100% fraud with no tests. Rossi is a liar if he doesn't even look into conducting a test with Smith, and there is no reason to believe anything he says with no proof. On Feb

Re: [Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread ecat builder
Arcing electricity across ordinary pencil lead (carbon) is a well-known method of demonstrating cold fusion. I've done it myself... http://blazelabs.com/n-transmut.asp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KV8hz5Ubfc - Brad

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Chemical Engineer
Man began using fire/combustion approx. 46,000 years ago and we are still using combustion as our primary energy source. I think you should be patient and wait a few more weeks... The frustration from Rossi is Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing Let's continue to hope we get something. I have

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com wrote: What was the point in the 1 MW sales then if he didn't need the money? Couldn't he have partnered with someone without the wasted time on the 1 MW plant? You really don't think his customers are reverse engineering his technology if it is a 64

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jarold, You seem to have issues with Rossi's quirky unpredictable behavior. Many do. You are in good company. If you are leaning towards the opinion that Rossi is a fraud you can at least feel assured of the fact that your opinion is shared by many. I'm sure Krivit would approve. Why don't you

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Oh no. sounds like MaryYugo's brother. only worse. Jarold, GET OVER IT! Just wait it out like the rest of us. Or, get some people and equipment together and try to replicate it like a few of us. If it makes you feel good, just call it a fraud and move on. nothing to see here.

[Vo]:Rossi defines Uselessly Asked Questions- again

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Gluck
Not interested in millionaires (let's try with bilonaires- they have even more money!) and for the time given there is No competition: Andrea Rossi February 15th, 2012 at 12:23 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580cpage=3#comment-185350 I AM RECEIVENG EMAILS REGARDING: 1- THE

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose Rossi thinks Smith is a faker. I have some doubts about Smith myself. Usually, when someone offers you $1 million just to do a test, he is not serious. If he had offered $50,000 or $100,000 it would be more

Re: [Vo]:Rossi defines Uselessly Asked Questions- again

2012-02-15 Thread Chemical Engineer
He seems a little more Lucid... On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Not interested in millionaires (let's try with bilonaires- they have even more money!) and for the time given there is No competition: Andrea Rossi February 15th, 2012 at 12:23

[Vo]:Tesla Murdered by Nazis

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/13/nikola-tesla-was-murdered-by-otto-skorzeny/ excerpt: According to Skorzeny, he and Gehlen had tricked Tesla the previous day into revealing the full details of his most important discoveries. After the murder, they stole the contents of Tesla’s safe, which

Re: [Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I gather Mr. Egely is claiming he is actually transmuting graphite (carbon) into iron with the use of a microwave oven.. And lets just forget about how much radiation that must generate as carbon nucleus are fused into iron nucleus. To prove his conjecture he uses a magnet to show that his newly

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, Jed. Rossi has about as much chance of collecting from Dick Smith as from James Randi. Yes!! Randi is hysterical. If this works out and Rossi becomes famous, he should send Randi an invoice. Just for the fun of it. Heck, *I'll* send him one.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi defines Uselessly Asked Questions- again

2012-02-15 Thread zer tte
RECENTLY LEONARDO CORPORATION BECAME PROPERTY OF A TRUST OF INVESTORS I'm quite surprised by this important news from rossi, he always seemed to say that he would be the sole captain of the e-cat boat and now he has attorneys to answer to ? My point is, has rossi silently sold the ship ? About

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
Rossi is either ignorant, or he is a blatant liar. Either way, it doesn't look good. Now, that doesn't mean he doesn't have an LENR device, but he loses all credibility from me. It would be no different if I claimed to have a working cold fusion device and am working with a secret customer.

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will eventually be revealed. You don't think they have already been revealed? Unless he suddenly discovers the value of collaboration

[Vo]:OT: Apps for iPad 3: What Apple should demo at the grand unveiling

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/tech/gaming-gadgets/ipad-3-apps-update/index.html?hpt=hp_bn6 Display is likely to increase to: 2048 x 1536 Most likely the same display size. I wanna an iPad (jumbo), one that's picture book size! Approximately 8 x 12. IMO, there's a definite need for a bigger

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Michele Comitini
Follows true Rossi's speech in capital letters. Who are the investors? http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580cpage=3#comment-185350 Andrea Rossi February 15th, 2012 at 12:23 PM I AM RECEIVENG EMAILS REGARDING: 1- THE “MILLIONAIRE” WHO OFFERS 1 MILLION FOR A TEST AND 2- WHAT WE THINK

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
I've been on the fence until just a couple of days ago when I heard Rossi's terrible excuse for not even giving Smith's proposal a chance. I want real answers for his refusal instead of snakes and clowns. Some other things Rossi has said haven't come to fruition. I'm using his timeline, and

Re: [Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
If it is iron, and not just magnetic carbon, it should also rust. Where is his rust test? ;-) Harry On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: I gather Mr. Egely is claiming he is actually transmuting graphite (carbon) into iron with the

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Patrick Ellul
Hi Jarold, What will exactly happen on your self-imposed deadline date? Regards, Patrick On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.comwrote: I've been on the fence until just a couple of days ago when I heard Rossi's terrible excuse for not even giving Smith's

RE: [Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
Brad and all, There are a couple of interesting points in all of this - which can easily be overlooked. Arcing carbon does produce a species with magnetic susceptibility, but it is probably not iron made by fusion. It not necessarily even magnetic graphite - and we do know that graphite can be

Re: [Vo]:Dust Fusion claim by George Egely

2012-02-15 Thread David Roberson
I am also wondering where all of the energy arising from the fusion reaction went? It would seem that this much conversion from carbon to iron would turn his microwave oven into a large crater. Dave -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Harry: Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will eventually be revealed. You don't think they have already been revealed? No. All I've seen is endless speculation on Rossi's business ventures. While there has been plenty of armchair criticism, (some of which

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Oh no… sounds like MaryYugo’s brother… only worse. Well, hmmm. He did appear on PDGT *after* MY's ban there. And here . . . T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jarold ... ... I want real answers for his refusal instead of snakes and clowns. Patience grasshopper. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Murdered by Nazis

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/13/nikola-tesla-was-murdered-by-otto-skorzeny/ excerpt: According to Skorzeny, he and Gehlen had tricked Tesla the previous day into revealing the full details of his most important discoveries. After the murder, they stole the contents of

RE: [Vo]:Tesla Murdered by Nazis

2012-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson Terry sez: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/13/nikola-tesla-was-murdered-by-otto-skorzeny/ excerpt: According to Skorzeny, he and Gehlen had tricked Tesla the previous day into revealing the full details of his most

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
Just more useless speculation that you are wrong about. I was on DGT while MY was there, and I told her/him to be more patient until more information was released. Rossi refused to do something that he said he was going to do. On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Feb 15,

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
It's my deadline based on the things both Rossi and Defkalion said. If nothing happens by that time, I will stop paying attention to this drama and consider that it is most likely a fraud. On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote: Hi Jarold, What will exactly happen on your

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jarold sez: It's my deadline based on the things both Rossi and Defkalion said. If nothing happens by that time, I will stop paying attention to this drama and consider that it is most likely a fraud. Well shoot! So Rossi has finally violated your deadline, and now you're miffed. You've lost

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Harry: Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will eventually be revealed. You don't think they have already been revealed? No. All I've seen is endless

RE: [Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi.

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Brown
None of what Krivit says explains Defkalion and despite them claiming essentially the same technology he never mentions them and just focusses on Rossi. If their independent tests prove successful then this gives Rossi a load more credibility since they are rumoured to have back engineered the

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com wrote: Just more useless speculation that you are wrong about.  I was on DGT while MY was there, and I told her/him to be more patient until more information was released. Well, we are familiar with MPD. How old is

RE: [Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi.

2012-02-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
The comments at http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/13/rossis-australian-investment-opportunity-falls-through/#comments are worth reading. (Including a long to-and-fro with Sol Millin). The Ian Bryce chimes in, complaining that Krivit isn't giving due weight to his earth wire theory.

Re: [Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:29 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Is any of this information by any chance related to the apparent demise of the Aussie Guy? Yes, the $100k figure could just be a coincidence. Or not. T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
I can prove that I've had it since April, 2010, but I think I've had it since about 2008. On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com wrote: Just more useless speculation that you are wrong about. I was on DGT

[Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi.

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Brown
If Rossi is eventually proven right then I fully expect to see Krivit at the serving window of Burger King. Original Message Subject: RE: [Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi. From: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com Date: Thu, February 16, 2012 10:39 am To: vortex-l@eskimo.com The

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com wrote: I can prove that I've had it since April, 2010, but I think I've had it since about 2008. We're playin' the joker, Oldjar. Wild card. Chill. T

Re: [Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi.

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote: If Rossi is eventually proven right then I fully expect to see Krivit at the serving window of Burger King. You want fries with that? T

[Vo]:1 MW customer

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
When are we going to get information about the non-secretive 1 MW customer? I believe Rossi said he had a customer in 3 months time right after the October 28th demonstration who was not confidential. It has now been over 3 months, and I haven't heard anything new since then.

Re: [Vo]:1 MW customer

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com wrote: When are we going to get information about the non-secretive 1 MW customer?   I believe Rossi said he had a customer in 3 months time right after the October 28th demonstration who was not confidential.  It has now

[Vo]:Electric Car pollution worse than gasoline (because of coal)

2012-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
Yikes. This is based on China, and your state may vary... but the US uses megatons of coal, so it is probably not terribly different here if you are downwind. And, to think - I was secretly day-dreaming about owning the new Tesla SUV next year

Re: [Vo]:Electric Car pollution worse than gasoline (because of coal)

2012-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
In the U.S. only half of electricity comes from coal, and our coal plants emit far fewer particulates than China's do. There is really no comparing the two countries and the effect of electric cars in them. I believe the share of electricity from coal is falling in the U.S. In Europe, especially

RE: [Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi.

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Brown
"Gimme a flamed and grilled Rossi Burger, no pickle, Krivit fries to go, and super size me with and a side of humble pie." Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Krivit: con letter from Rossi. From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Date: Thu, February 16, 2012 11:32 am To:

Re: [Vo]:Electric Car pollution worse than gasoline (because of coal)

2012-02-15 Thread Jouni Valkonen
There is to be considered that coal can be burned cleanly in new power plants, because almost all harmful emissions can be purified. Also I cannot believe that even old coal burning stations can be more dirty than burning fuel in internal combustion engine. Internal combustion engine and

Re: [Vo]:Electric Car pollution worse than gasoline (because of coal)

2012-02-15 Thread Bruno Santos
In Brazil, too. Almost 80% of brazilian electricity comes from hydropower (71,2%), biomass (7,18%), nuclear (1,6%) or windpower (1,18%). 2011 figures. Even though biomass does emit particulates, it emits far less than coal. Biomass plants are also very tightly-regulated with regard to particulate

[Vo]:Vo]:Gibbs Will Interview Dick Smith

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Brown
"I had a very interesting discussion with Dick Smith earlier today regarding his thoughts on Rossi and the E-Cat and I’ll be posting an interview with him in the next few days." Mark Gibbs

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Eric Walker
Two points to add to what has already been said in connection with the initial item in Rossi's statement, below -- First, the English of the response is indeed more lucid than in the past. It sounds like parts of the statement have been copied and pasted from a lawyer's email. Second, it's

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Testing

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Terry the interrygator asks: How old is your hotmail account? Good question! Enquiring minds want to know... But being the well seasoned troll that MY is, he probably has several alter-egos so when one of them is banned, and questions arise as to when #2 started, as is the case here, he can

[Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory

2012-02-15 Thread pagnucco
W-L LENR theory claims ultra-low momentum neutrons (ULMNs) are created - quite surprising if due to high kinetic energy e-p collisions. Overcoming the electroweak effective potential barrier that repels an electron from a proton (= udu 'quark bag') requires 780 KeV. Can slow (non-relativistic)