Re: [Vo]:New Rossi Patent Appln..publishes Today

2014-11-08 Thread Alain Sepeda
maybe I read it too fast, but in fact it seems this patent does not patent
NiH reaction, but assume the fuel exist and have some characteristic... it
seems to patent the reactor...

2014-11-08 0:06 GMT+01:00 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com:


 The patent is invalid.  The catalyst has to be specified in at least a
 preferred embodiment.


 On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  The USPTO has an 18 month embargo on publication, which is* optional* and
 not required - and they chose not to avail themselves of the delayed
 publication.  That is a strategy choice. You can find this stature
 online: (35 U.S.C. 122 Confidential status of applications)

 The implication is that they want to get the most basic version of the
 device protected and in front of the public immediately if possible.
 These is a very limited scope patent – and could get through, but it may
 not protect very much.

 There is no mention of isotopes or a particular catalyst. This means
 that they cannot protect the use of any catalyst, other than as a trade
 secret, but catch-22 – if the devices is not described well enough so
 that a practitioner “skilled in the art” can make and use it, they are
 in trouble on the basic claim.  This is the so-called “enablement
 requirement” of 35 U.S.C. 112.

 The purpose of the requirement that the specification describe the
 invention in such terms that one skilled in the art can make and use the
 claimed invention is to ensure that the invention is communicated to the
 interested public in a meaningful way. Thus if MFMP can replicate the device
 for any gain, then Rossi is in a good position.

 *From:* Frank Acland

 Maybe Industrial Heat is using the USPTO's fast track service for this
 one: *http://www.uspto.gov/patents/init_events/Track_One.jsp*
 http://www.uspto.gov/patents/init_events/Track_One.jsp

 … why did this patent show up already?  It was only filed in april of
 this year.


* Application Number* * Filing Date** Patent Number*

 61818553May 2, 2013
 61819058May 3, 2013
 61821914May 10, 2013
 Ron Kita  wrote:

 Greetings Vortex-L,


 *http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFu=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htmlr=1p=1f=Gl=50d=PG01S1=20140326711.PGNR.OS=DN%2F20140326711RS=DN%2F20140326711*
 http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFu=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htmlr=1p=1f=Gl=50d=PG01S1=20140326711.PGNR.OS=DN%2F20140326711RS=DN%2F20140326711

 Ad Astra,

 Ron Kita, Chiralex

 Doylestown PA



  --

 Frank Acland
 Publisher, *E-Cat World* http://www.e-catworld.com






[Vo]:Russian Ruble--Crumbles

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Kita
Vortex-L,

The Ruble ...crunbles without LENR:
http://news.yahoo.com/russias-currency-tumbles-investors-panic-183306310--abc-news-topstories.html


Ad Astra,
Ron Kita, Chiralex


Re: [Vo]:New Rossi Patent Appln..publishes Today

2014-11-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
 maybe I read it too fast, but in fact it seems this patent does not patent
 NiH reaction, but assume the fuel exist and have some characteristic... it
 seems to patent the reactor...

And rightly so if various ingredients generate wide ranging results.
Ingredients and method of operation might be separately patented.



Re: [Vo]:Russian Ruble--Crumbles

2014-11-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Still, it's 40% higher than a year ago:

http://imgur.com/1bEM8qC


On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vortex-L,

 The Ruble ...crunbles without LENR:
 http://news.yahoo.com/russias-currency-tumbles-investors-panic-183306310--abc-news-topstories.html


 Ad Astra,
 Ron Kita, Chiralex



[Vo]:dreams

2014-11-08 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I am fully aware of what is going on in my waking life and I believe that I do 
understand my interaction with the environment


About a month ago I dreamed that I was at the local Vo-Tech and that I put on a 
pair of sneakers.  A man came running after me and said you sole my shoes.  
When I arrived at home I realized that I had put on the wrong pair of sneakers. 
 I then put them in the lost and found box at the mall.  I did not want to see 
that man again.


There was nothing remarkable about this dream except that I remember it.  It's 
the sort of thing that process the days events.  It seems to be random and 
disconnected from the waking life.


Last night I dreamed that I was going into the Vo-Tech and the security guard 
pulled me aside.  He said some man was after me.
Why, I wondered why, is he a nut!  The security guard told me I sole his 
sneakers.  I did not remember that.  I did not do that!  Then the security 
guard told me that the man then found his sneakers at the lost and found box in 
the mall.  Then I remembered the previous dream event and woke up to tell this 
story.


How could this be?  All of the information from the previous dream was all 
implanted in my one mind.  The security guard was a figment of this minds's 
dream.  How could he know things that my dreaming self did not?  We were both 
operating on the same set of information.   What's remarkable is that our minds 
can hide information from the dreamer that one of the characters in the dream 
knows.  Then we can later remember it.  How can that be, its like a locked data 
set.


I have now discovered that there is a lot going on in our minds that we are not 
aware of.  Dreams can go in a sequel with a different set of characters than 
exist within our waking life.  


Frank Z












Re: [Vo]:dreams

2014-11-08 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:33:58 AM 

 How could this be? All of the information from the previous dream was all 
 implanted in my one mind. The security guard was a figment of this minds's 
 dream. How could he know things that my dreaming self did not? We were both 
 operating on the same set of information. What's remarkable is that our minds 
 can hide information from the dreamer that one of the characters in the dream 
 knows. Then we can later remember it. How can that be, its like a locked data 
 set. 

 I have now discovered that there is a lot going on in our minds that we are 
 not aware of. Dreams can go in a sequel with a different set of characters 
 than exist within our waking life. 

I suspect there's a lot of information locked in the brain for which we don't 
have the key (or trigger). Heck, I have both moderate prosopagnosia (inability 
to recognise faces) AND bad recall of names (they'll usually pop up five 
minutes after the person has departed). I've taken to telling people to 
re-introduce themselves to me. 

Between about 8 and 15, whenever I had a fever of over 101F I'd have the exact 
same flying dream. But (except for directed/falling-asleep dreams) I can't 
remember a continuing-plot dream. 










Re: [Vo]:dreams

2014-11-08 Thread mixent
In reply to  Frank Znidarsic's message of Sat, 8 Nov 2014 13:33:58 -0500:
Hi Frank,
I am fully aware of what is going on in my waking life and I believe that I do 
understand my interaction with the environment


About a month ago I dreamed that I was at the local Vo-Tech and that I put on 
a pair of sneakers.  A man came running after me and said you sole my shoes.  
When I arrived at home I realized that I had put on the wrong pair of 
sneakers.  I then put them in the lost and found box at the mall.  I did not 
want to see that man again.


There was nothing remarkable about this dream except that I remember it.  It's 
the sort of thing that process the days events.  It seems to be random and 
disconnected from the waking life.


Last night I dreamed that I was going into the Vo-Tech and the security guard 
pulled me aside.  He said some man was after me.
Why, I wondered why, is he a nut!  The security guard told me I sole his 
sneakers.  I did not remember that.  I did not do that!  Then the security 
guard told me that the man then found his sneakers at the lost and found box 
in the mall.  Then I remembered the previous dream event and woke up to tell 
this story.


How could this be?  All of the information from the previous dream was all 
implanted in my one mind.  The security guard was a figment of this minds's 
dream.  How could he know things that my dreaming self did not?  We were both 
operating on the same set of information.   What's remarkable is that our 
minds can hide information from the dreamer that one of the characters in the 
dream knows.  Then we can later remember it.  How can that be, its like a 
locked data set.


I have now discovered that there is a lot going on in our minds that we are 
not aware of.  Dreams can go in a sequel with a different set of characters 
than exist within our waking life.  
[snip]

It's not that your mind retains info that you are not aware of. What happens is
that when you sleep, your mind gets board, and tunes in telepathically to other
minds. The events you recalled were actually performed by the person you were
tuned into. Flying dreams are often the result of tuning in to the minds of
birds, or at least the visual cortex of the bird brain[*]. Some minds are more
compatible with our own than others, which is why your mind tunes into them more
often than others (same resonant frequency?).

[*] I have dreamt of flying down to land at a rubbish tip, and on a different
occasion of walking along a pebble strewn path at a height of six inches.

With all this in mind, next time you dream, try to remember to look into a
mirror, and see who's face you are looking at. I recall having found the
experience quite confusing to my dreaming mind. ;)

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:OT: New Curcumin ( spice) US Patent- Anticancer

2014-11-08 Thread Man on Bridges

Hi,

The positive health effects of Curcumin were ages ago already known in 
India.

I wonder if this patent is in direct violation with an Indian patent.

As far as I once read curcumin was also patented in the US by a 
farmacutical firm.

After complaints from India this granted patent was within a year revoked.

Kind regards,

Rob

Ron Kita schreef op 4-11-2014 06:06:

Greetings Vortex-L,

Curcumic-Turmeric  is a most amazing spice. About 5 years ago,Scientific
American had a article called: Spice Healer by Gary Stix..now must pay 
 for the article due to its popularity.


Here is a recent 2014 Anticancer- Curcumin Patent from the University of
Brussels:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=5f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=PTXTs1=curcumins2=cancer.TI.OS=curcumin+AND+TTL/cancerRS=curcumin+AND+TTL/cancer


Ad Astra,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Doylestown PA




Re: [Vo]:OT: New Curcumin ( spice) US Patent- Anticancer

2014-11-08 Thread Man on Bridges

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2805%2963536-2/fulltext

Man on Bridges schreef op 8-11-2014 22:15:

Hi,

The positive health effects of Curcumin were ages ago already known in 
India.

I wonder if this patent is in direct violation with an Indian patent.

As far as I once read curcumin was also patented in the US by a 
farmacutical firm.
After complaints from India this granted patent was within a year 
revoked.


Kind regards,

Rob

Ron Kita schreef op 4-11-2014 06:06:

Greetings Vortex-L,

Curcumic-Turmeric  is a most amazing spice. About 5 years ago,Scientific
American had a article called: Spice Healer by Gary Stix..now must 
pay  for the article due to its popularity.


Here is a recent 2014 Anticancer- Curcumin Patent from the University of
Brussels:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=5f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=PTXTs1=curcumins2=cancer.TI.OS=curcumin+AND+TTL/cancerRS=curcumin+AND+TTL/cancer 




Ad Astra,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Doylestown PA






[Vo]:

2014-11-08 Thread Kevin O'Malley
From Ecat World:

Rossi Asks for Help: Cold Fusion Referred to in Manhattan Project?
Posted on November 6, 2014 by admin
http://www.e-catworld.com/author/admin/ • 44 Comments
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/06/rossi-asks-for-help-cold-fusion-in-manhattan-project/#comments

I am passing on a request for help from Andrea Rossi that was posted on the
Journal of Nuclear Physics today. Maybe there are readers who might be able
to assist Rossi with this question:

To the Readers, request of help:
Today I have been informed from an Indian nuclear physicist that, during
the Manhattan Project, Oppenheimer and Teller expressed the opinion that
cold fusion was a possibility. If true, this is important under a
historical point of view, but I have not been able to find a reference of
this. Is any of our Readers able to inform us about similar reference?
Warm Regards,
A.R.


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54964-2004Nov16_2.html

...

A protege of Edward Teller, father of the hydrogen bomb,
Hagelstein by 1989, at age 35, had a prestigious position at MIT and had
been selected as a member of the Jasons, an elite group of scientific
advisers to the Defense Department. He was on his way to great things.

He was flying out to visit the Lawrence Livermore National
Laboratory in California when the news of cold fusion hit in 1989, and
he met with Teller and Lowell Wood, another prominent Livermore
scientist, the next day. Both men encouraged him to work on cold fusion.
(Teller died last year, but Wood continues to support cold fusion and
attends the conferences.) Hagelstein did what his mentors suggested, and
his career has suffered.

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http://www.majesticdocuments.c...
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/rdlab_analyticalrpt2sept47.pdf

This two-page Top Secret MAJIC Eyes Only report to
General C. P. Cabell and commanding General of the Air Materiel Command
from the Research and Development Laboratory is dated 2 September 1947.
It provides a credible glimpse into the problems that faced the first
analytical team to examine real crashed extraterrestrial
hardware. Here are some quotes: some nation has reached a stage of
flight development in which the present ideas are 

[Vo]:THe plot thickens, is NRG Energy running things now?

2014-11-08 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/R_123569754_1.pdf

It looks like IPH International BV is owned by European Generation SARL,
which is a subsidiary of NRG Energy Inc.

NRG - 11B market cap.  NRG Energy, Inc. (NRG) is an integrated wholesale
power generation and retail electricity company in the United States


[Vo]:Re: THe plot thickens, is NRG Energy running things now?

2014-11-08 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
hat tip mr moho ..
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/07/provision-applications-for-e-cat-patents-available-at-uspto-site/#comment-1683175008

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:

 http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/R_123569754_1.pdf

 It looks like IPH International BV is owned by European Generation SARL,
 which is a subsidiary of NRG Energy Inc.

 NRG - 11B market cap.  NRG Energy, Inc. (NRG) is an integrated wholesale
 power generation and retail electricity company in the United States



Re: [Vo]:New Rossi Patent Appln..publishes Today

2014-11-08 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

Abstract

A system is disclosed for converting energy from the electromagnetic
 quantum vacuum available at any point in the universe to usable energy in
 the form of heat, electricity, mechanical energy or other forms of power.


It seems they were able to travel into the black hole and obtain the
quantum data [1].

Eric


[1] http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=7286


RE: [Vo]:THe plot thickens, is NRG Energy running things now?

2014-11-08 Thread Mason Ainsworth
A question . . . why doesn't European Generating Sarl show in the NRG 
Subsidiary listing as of 2/28/2014? Yet, it shows for 3/31/2003?  

How did someone know to look back 11 years?

SEC 10-K,   Exhibit 21,  dated 2/28/2014 
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013871/00010138711403/exhibit21110k2013.htm


Hopefully, there is an easy answer.

Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:14:36 -0800
From: blazespinna...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:THe plot thickens, is NRG Energy running things now?

http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/R_123569754_1.pdf
It looks like IPH International BV is owned by European Generation SARL, which 
is a subsidiary of NRG Energy Inc.
NRG - 11B market cap.  NRG Energy, Inc. (NRG) is an integrated wholesale power 
generation and retail electricity company in the United States  
   

Re: [Vo]:THe plot thickens, is NRG Energy running things now?

2014-11-08 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Where is the information from 2003?   Who is European Generating Sarl in
terms of why we should care with respect to Rossi or IH?

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Mason Ainsworth masonainswo...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 A question . . . why doesn't European Generating Sarl show in the NRG
 Subsidiary listing as of 2/28/2014? Yet, it shows for 3/31/2003?

 How did someone know to look back 11 years?

 SEC 10-K,   Exhibit 21,  dated 2/28/2014

 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1013871/00010138711403/exhibit21110k2013.htm


 Hopefully, there is an easy answer.

 --
 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:14:36 -0800
 From: blazespinna...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: [Vo]:THe plot thickens, is NRG Energy running things now?

 http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/R_123569754_1.pdf

 It looks like IPH International BV is owned by European Generation SARL,
 which is a subsidiary of NRG Energy Inc.

 NRG - 11B market cap.  NRG Energy, Inc. (NRG) is an integrated wholesale
 power generation and retail electricity company in the United States