Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

[mixent]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:37:44 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>In the Hydrogen LENR (?) the H-H --> H*-H* condensation produces about 
>500eV of magnetic potential energy due to SO(4)  spin coupling of the 
>perturbative proton mass. This can exactly be calculated. 

If it can be exactly calculated, why do you say "about 500 eV"?


Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Solar could be the death of LENR for the grid level segment... but hey … that's OK.

[Jed Rothwell]

JonesBeene  wrote:

Where does this ongoing sea-change in power cost leave LENR?
>
>
>
> In two words: portable power. This market is not too shabby - even if you
> can only get low penetration.
>

There is no way PV can compete with cold fusion. When it matures, cold
fusion will be hundreds of times cheaper. Roof-based solar on a typical
house cannot even supply all the energy the house consumes. There is not
enough space on the roof, so it requires a distribution network. See:

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusionb.pdf

Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

As said:

Most of the energy is coming from electron shrinkage, with the addition of the
occasional nuclear reaction where the energy is carried by charged heavy
particles and is primarily converted to heat.


In the Hydrogen LENR (?) the H-H --> H*-H* condensation produces about 
500eV of magnetic potential energy due to SO(4)  spin coupling of the 
perturbative proton mass. This can exactly be calculated. This single 
amount of energy is to low to attach to the proton magnetic moment to 
further induce a higher order perturbative mass spin coupling. With 
Deuterium like in the Mizuno case everything works as expected. Thus 
LENR in the H-H case needs an aggregate of many H* pairs similar to 
Mills Hydrino idea but now with physical explanation... The exception is 
7-Li that can directly react with H*. See Lipinskis.


NPP2.0 exactly explains, with highest possible precision, how LENR 
energy is produced and how the nuclear structure changes. Unluckily the 
model is not suited for undergraduate bloggers as you need some basic, 
but higher level knowledge of topology and an understanding of the 6 
dimensions of SO(4).


Please try to understand the real mass structure of the 
particles/nucleus and why/how in LENR fusion the perturbative (lower 
dimensional)  mass has to be released.


And of course, *please* stop to use/cite the fringe SM approach/ideas 
for dense matter like exchange particles, strong force, see of quarks etc...


Jürg


Am 17.07.19 um 22:41 schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:

In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:28:37 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]

Well that is simple. If fusion was was a viable ongoing process during the
LENR reaction, then there should be lots of gamma rays and neutrons
produced, and LENR experimenters would all be dead in short order. But LENR
is safe as safe can be just like light coming from a light bulb. Please
explain how this is happening.

Most of the energy is coming from electron shrinkage, with the addition of the
occasional nuclear reaction where the energy is carried by charged heavy
particles and is primarily converted to heat.

This is what I consider to be the most likely explanation, though I don't rule
out others, including yours.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success





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Re: FW: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Axil

Your nonsensical posts now hit the fan.

If you ever had high school physics/mechanics you should understand why 
there can be no hard fusion radiation in LENR.


The only exceptions are: Target nucleus unstable and overloading of the 
energy down scaling path. The later effect is what we use.


Jürg



Am 17.07.19 um 22:28 schrieb Axil Axil:
Well that is simple. If fusion was was a viable ongoing process during 
the LENR reaction, then there should be lots of gamma rays and 
neutrons produced, and LENR experimenters would all be dead in short 
order. But LENR is safe as safe can be just like light coming from a 
light bulb. Please explain how this is happening.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:19 PM > wrote:


In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:10:15 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>The one undeniable aspect of this ferrosilicon transmutation
example is the
>shear volume of unexplained material produced. In 11 weeks, an
extra volume
>of 327.25 tons of  "anomalous" ferrosilicon output was unaccountably
>produced. Even a bookkeeper in the back-office could see that
something is
>not adding up.  327.25 tons of transmutation should have produced
lots of
>excess energy, but it did not.

On the contrary, it is very deniable, and I have done so
exhaustively in the
past. Enough already, find another example to support your pet theory.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



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