[Vo]:Silver Palladium "breakthrough" ?

2023-12-01 Thread Jones Beene
https://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2023-11-13-researchers-aim-make-cheaper-fuel-cells-reality

Should not P get a little credit for this catalyst - not to mention J? 

... and/or ... is LENR involved in the improvement ? 


[Vo]:Oppenheimer -the missing piece

2023-10-08 Thread Jones Beene
Most everyone on this forum has seen the movie by now...
There was no mention in the film of the "Oppenheimer-Phillips effect" nor of 
Melba Phillips. 

We did mention in a Vortex thread here years ago the possibility that one 
version of LANR  (lattice assisted) was in fact a hybrid of the 
Oppenheimer-Phillips effect combined with the Casimir effect
In light of the recent announcement of the Russian nuclear powered cruise 
missile, a new combined effect - may come up again as a usable power source. 
One of their scientists may have let it slip out.

At any rate, I would like to have seen Melba Phillips mentioned in the movie... 
Maybe we missed something in 1938 that she saw...


Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor

2023-08-03 Thread Jones Beene

the arm-chair physicists out there seem to be positing "a new kind of 
superconductivity" rather than, you know  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLr95AFBRXI


 Terry Blanton  wrote:  
 
 Rendered Invalid
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/08/03/business/tech/Korea-Quantum-Energy-Research-Centre-superconductor/20230803184638075.html

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 9:49 AM Terry Blanton  wrote:



https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09

 




  

Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor

2023-07-26 Thread Jones Beene
This story turns out to have been around the net for a long time
It appeared in the record as a compound named LK-99 = Lee-Kim (1999): 
IOW - they discovered it nearly a quarter of a century ago.. makes one wonder 
if this post is not an odd troll 

Not to mention, an unreasonable time to isolate, confirm and cook up; patents 
filed in 2021, and granted in 2023—hence only now the public articles and 
trademark applications ... which likely means it is not robust or usable.and 
they are grasping at straws

This according to Reddit


Re: [Vo]:The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor

2023-07-26 Thread Jones Beene
There have been other claimants - this is not the first but it may become the 
first to be fully replicated and notably it shows the Meissner effect which 
most of the others did not,
The affiliation of the authors is not clear
The Superconductor is Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O (a common mineral) showing levitation at 
room temperature and atmospheric pressure 
 
 Authors: Sukbae Lee, Jihoon Kim, Hyun-Tak Kim, Sungyeon Im, SooMin An, Keun Ho 
Auh 

Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008?s=09

 



  

Re: [Vo]:Mycorrhizal Carbon Sequestering

2023-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
 Warning (esp for viewers of 'The Last of Us')
This news story could be a 'plant' so to speak...

The zombie fungus cordyceps reportedly has well-placed propagandists ...



Terry Blanton  wrote:  
 
 
https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/4034986-fungi-may-offer-jaw-dropping-solution-to-climate-change/
  

[Vo]:This could relate to the Mills/Holmlid effect

2023-05-28 Thread Jones Beene
The premise is that entangled behavior is a feature of an expanded ground 
state— the goal being to  harvest zero-point energy from a system whose ground 
state naturally features entanglement and redundancy

 
https://www.wired.com/story/the-quest-to-use-quantum-mechanics-to-pull-energy-out-of-nothing/?bxid=5cec25cb3f92a45b30ed10b5=46300417=Wired_etl_load=Email_0_EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ_brand=wired_mailing=WIR_Daily_052823




[Vo]:In case you missed it

2023-05-16 Thread Jones Beene
This has been reported before in less detail
DOE Funds $10 Million to Settle LENR Controversy | NextBigFuture.com

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Re: [Vo]:Tesla Dumping Rare Earths

2023-05-01 Thread Jones Beene
  Terry Blanton wrote:: 

 > For what magnetic material?
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-elon-musk-magnet-mystery/

/well - Possibly it is a big surprise - iron nitride !
This material has been known for a long time (that there is a rare nano-phase 
of iron and nitrogen with spectacular magnetic properties) ... but it is very 
difficult to manufacture
Here is a company trying to capitalize on this approach, but there are others
https://www.nironmagnetics.com/.




[Vo]:New Phase of H ?

2023-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
One wonders if this story could be related to Mills / Holmlid (ultradense 
hydrogen) etc ?
https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-discover-a-strange-new-theoretical-phase-of-hydrogen

[Vo]:lutetium "LENR"

2023-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
Recently it was mentioned here (Axil ?) that a new room temp superconductor was 
claimed by a group at  Rochester U. 

I lost the post. The material in question is nitrogen-doped lutetium hydride 
and it demonstrates superconductivity at 21 °C (69.5 °F) at 145,000 psi. The 
pressure may sound high, but it’s orders of magnitude lower than prior art and 
achievable in an interesting way that could be synergistic to fusion.

lutetium "LENR" is therefore a topic that comes to mind ... somewhat based on a 
connection to palladium hydride. IOW there could be a connection between the 
two fields - LENR and HTSC - although it could well be coincidental

There appears to be some trickle of prior work on lutetium LENR based on a 
google search. George Miley was apparently interested in one aspect

Does anyone know of ongoing work on the topic LENR using LuH ?

It is too bad that Lu is so damned expensive. Apparently it is the most 
expensive element at many suppliers


Re: [Vo]:Life Immitates Art

2023-02-26 Thread Jones Beene
 Terry Blanton wrote: 

> And there was "Contagion" in 2011...
Don't forget the zombie fungus in "Last of Us" on HBO this year    


  

Re: [Vo]:Covid 19 from Wuhan BSL4

2023-02-26 Thread Jones Beene
 One can only wonder what the true death toll in China was ...

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 08:02:56 AM PST, Terry Blanton 
 wrote:  
 
 According to the DoE new intelligence:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a
  

Re: [Vo]:high weirdness

2023-02-13 Thread Jones Beene
 From the subject line, I thought this was going to be about the balloon 
objects...


Robin wrote: 
> If you multiply the weight of hydrogen in the form of water in the oceans, by 
> the fine structure constant, you end up
with the weight of Oxygen in the atmosphere.



  

[Vo]:Do we have a small problem?

2023-01-25 Thread Jones Beene
Prescient episode of 60 Minutes... mentioned here

Russian Officials Deny Claims Of Missing Nuclear Weapons | Arms Control 
Association

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Re: [Vo]:Accessing Icy World Oceans Using Lattice Confinement Fusion Fast Fission

2023-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
  
Is this early April fools from NASA? One of many big problems is that although 
lattice fusion reportedly can produce a small flux of neutrons, they are not 
fast neutrons... far from it. 

Fast fission requires very fast neutrons - typically about 1 MeV. Unless of 
course there has been a breakthrough which I've missed.
There doesn't appear to be a direct reference online for "Lattice Confinement 
Fusion - Fast Fission"
Does anyone have such a reference?


H L V  wrote:  
Accessing Icy World Oceans Using Lattice Confinement Fusion Fast Fission
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2023/Accessing_Icy_World_Oceans/

quote
Icy World researchers have proposed using a nuclear powered, heated probe. 
However, rather than require either the plutonium-238 radioisotope heat source 
or an enriched uranium-235 fission reactor, with significant launch safety 
costs, we propose making use of the recent Lattice Confinement Fusion source 
used to efficiently fast-fission either depleted uranium or thorium in a molten 
lithium matrix. The resulting hybrid fusion fast fission nuclear reactor will 
be smaller than a traditional fission reactor where a lower mass power source 
is needed and provide efficient operation with thermal waste heat from reactor 
heats probe to melt through ice shelf to sub-ice oceans.  

Re: [Vo]:2023 -- An ominous New Year

2023-01-04 Thread Jones Beene
 There is another point of view which recognizes that Ukraine never trusted 
Russia (duh, who does?) ... going back through history - and therefore never 
gave up all of their nukes - treaty or no. 

They most likely kept smaller suitcase or artillery devices which would have 
been easier to hide. 

This would not have been difficult to do in that time frame. The Ukrainians are 
not so stupid as to trust Russia and before Zelenskyy they were corrupt so 
another motivation could have been financial gain. At any rate they would 
surely have kept enough fissile material to serve as a deterrent, but also --- 
some or all of that material may be in private hands maybe in a neighboring 
country such as Poland. 

Putin is probably aware of this. After all he is the master spy. His bluster is 
directed at NATO.

Ukraine has almost twice the U reserves as the USA as well as the original 
processing plants going back to the cold war when there were several "secret 
cities" scattered around the Donbas which may explain why that area is the 
center of attention of the Wagner group ... which has likely been promised 
billions of Euros to retrieve the material.
 
If there was NOT such a deterrent out there in the hands of the Ukrainians - 
they would already have been toast by now.

Terry Blanton wrote:  
 Regretfully, I agree.
ROGER ANDERTON wrote:

 Ukraine was not supposed to have nukes by earlier agreements with Russia, 
hence Ukraine wanted to join NATO to get access to nukes - and that was seen as 
breaking agreements with Russia hence one of the reasons for Putin's invasion - 
i.e deemed Russia was provoked. If Ukraine secretly has nukes then they broke 
agreement much earlier than recognised









-- Original Message --
From: "bobcook39...@hotmail.com" 
To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, 4 Jan, 23 At 00:09
Subject: RE: [Vo]:2023 -- An ominous New Year

  
I AGREE WITH JONES; Ukraine sent drones deep into Russia to remind Putin that 
they are not the onley onrs with tactical nucs. MAD is alive ane still is 
working IMHO/
 
 
 
I see a trues in the new YEAR WITH Ukraine 95 % WHOLE—MAYBE AN OLD ww2 CRUSIER 
AS A CONSOLATION PRIZE FOR THE RUSSIAN NAVY.
 
 
 
FRC 
 
 
 
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Sent from  Mail for Windows
 
 
  
From: Jones Beene
 Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 5:39 PM
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:2023 -- An ominous New Year
  
 
   
Yes I remember seeing some of this years ago.
   
 
   
We have to remember that Ukraine was just as corrupt as Russia in the recent 
past.
   
 
   
The new twist is that the suitcase devices were actually constructed in Ukraine 
decades ago ... as were other nukes in the Soviet arsenal years ago. The 
Russian equivalent to Oak Ridge is actually n Ukraine.
   
 
   
The problem now being this - are some of the missing devices in the hands of 
non-Zelenskyy Ukrainians or ex patriots who may have an agenda which is not 
aligned with NATO/USA ??
   
 
   
This mystery may explain why Putin has not used a major asset
   
 
   
 
   
Terry Blanton wrote: 
 
 
   
 
  
The missing suitcase nukes hidden in cities in the US is not a new story. I'm 
sure it was around in the 90s after the collapse of the SU. If NEST hasn't 
found them by now, well...
  
 

Jones Beene wrote:
  

Can this upcoming year, 2023, possibly be Happy for most of us ?
   
 
   
Consider this: the situation in Ukraine has cast a dark shadow over everything. 
Basically, Russia cannot win, nor can they fully lose... so long as a nuclear 
option exists. 
   
 
   
Most military experts rule out that option, but they have overlooked one hidden 
possibility which is now emerging (from the all but forgotten Cold War) - and 
now we see this predicament turning up in the fringe news. See the video below 
on the 250 so-called "suitcase nukes" that we have lost track of...
   
 
   
It is sad to think that part of our present predicament is related to control 
of energy resources, which is a situation that LENR would arguably have 
mollified or eliminated, if the technology had been adequately researched back 
in the early 1990s
   
 
   
The Balance of Power, so to speak, would have been different in a world with 
adequate energy beyond fossil fuels... but of course that conclusion assumes 
many things...
   
 
   
Speaking of related unproved assumptions which would change things in hidden 
ways... check out this video which turned up today. There are surprising 
ramifications given that a preexisting batch of small nukes may have already 
been planted.., maybe even in DC
   
 
   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_7eZVt854
   
 
   
If there are optimists out there on Volandia let me add:i
   
-- Happy New Year !!!

 
 
 
 
  

  

Re: [Vo]:2023 -- An ominous New Year

2022-12-31 Thread Jones Beene
Yes I remember seeing some of this years ago.
We have to remember that Ukraine was just as corrupt as Russia in the recent 
past.

The new twist is that the suitcase devices were actually constructed in Ukraine 
decades ago ... as were other nukes in the Soviet arsenal years ago. The 
Russian equivalent to Oak Ridge is actually n Ukraine.

The problem now being this - are some of the missing devices in the hands of 
non-Zelenskyy Ukrainians or ex patriots who may have an agenda which is not 
aligned with NATO/USA ??
This mystery may explain why Putin has not used a major asset


Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
 The missing suitcase nukes hidden in cities in the US is not a new story.  I'm 
 sure it was around in the 90s after the collapse of the SU.  If NEST hasn't 
found them by now, well...
Jones Beene wrote:

Can this upcoming year, 2023, possibly be Happy for most of us ?

Consider this: the situation in Ukraine has cast a dark shadow over everything. 
Basically, Russia cannot win, nor can they fully lose... so long as a nuclear 
option exists. 

Most military experts rule out that option, but they have overlooked one hidden 
possibility which is now emerging (from the all but forgotten Cold War) - and 
now we see this predicament turning up in the fringe news. See the video below 
on the 250 so-called "suitcase nukes" that we have lost track of...

It is sad to think that part of our present predicament is related to control 
of energy resources, which is a situation that LENR would arguably have 
mollified or eliminated, if the technology had been adequately researched back 
in the early 1990s

The Balance of Power, so to speak, would have been different in a world with 
adequate energy beyond fossil fuels... but of course that conclusion assumes 
many things...
Speaking of related unproved assumptions which would change things in hidden 
ways... check out this video which turned up today. There are surprising 
ramifications given that a preexisting batch of small nukes may have already 
been planted.., maybe even in DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_7eZVt854
If there are optimists out there on Volandia  let me add:i
--  Happy New Year !!!


  

[Vo]:2023 -- An ominous New Year

2022-12-31 Thread Jones Beene
Can this upcoming year, 2023, possibly be Happy for most of us ?

Consider this: the situation in Ukraine has cast a dark shadow over everything. 
Basically, Russia cannot win, nor can they fully lose... so long as a nuclear 
option exists. 

Most military experts rule out that option, but they have overlooked one hidden 
possibility which is now emerging (from the all but forgotten Cold War) - and 
now we see this predicament turning up in the fringe news. See the video below 
on the 250 so-called "suitcase nukes" that we have lost track of...

It is sad to think that part of our present predicament is related to control 
of energy resources, which is a situation that LENR would arguably have 
mollified or eliminated, if the technology had been adequately researched back 
in the early 1990s

The Balance of Power, so to speak, would have been different in a world with 
adequate energy beyond fossil fuels... but of course that conclusion assumes 
many things...
Speaking of related unproved assumptions which would change things in hidden 
ways... check out this video which turned up today. There are surprising 
ramifications given that a preexisting batch of small nukes may have already 
been planted.., maybe even in DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_7eZVt854
If there are optimists out there on Volandia  let me add:i
--  Happy New Year !!!



Re: [Vo]:Do We Live in a Sim?

2022-12-27 Thread Jones Beene
 
Thanks for posting this. 

The big picture gets even more bizarre when you throw in quantum computing...
... or in the spirit of the Season: "in the beginning was the qubit"



Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
 I first read this idea from Stanford University professor Leonard Susskind's 
The Cosmic Landscape.  Now this vid:
https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

is a short one by professor James Gates from the University of Maryland who has 
found forward error correction Shannon codes in his string theory equations. 
Maybe the Akashic records are true.  

Re: [Vo]:A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion

2022-12-18 Thread Jones Beene
 Even so - isn't it true that the bottom line is that it will be far cheaper to 
make solar cells, given the abundance of silicon on the moon - and get 
electrical power that way compared with fusion. 

Far far far cheaper.



     Robin  wrote:  
 
 In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 18 Dec 2022 08:33:26 -0500:
Hi,

>In that case, a robotic mining system would suffice.  Combine that with
>Heinlein's mass driver and we're all set.

Note that 12 kWh/m^2 was a high order estimate. Given the size of the Moon, and 
Earth currently using about 500 quad /
annum, the total resource would last us at most 3 years, if it had to supply 
all our energy needs.

I think it might be a better idea to just use the Lunar He3 as a local resource 
to provide power for a Lunar colony and
further exploration of the Solar system.

Here on Earth, we can "easily" make our own from the D + D -> He3 + n reaction.
(Or if my device works, the H + D -> He3 reaction).

>
>Well, we need a hot Fusion device first.
[snip]
Cloud storage:-

Unsafe, Slow, Expensive 

...pick any three.

  

Re: [Vo]:A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion

2022-12-17 Thread Jones Beene
Terry Blanton wrote:  
 > The moon has lots of 3He and it gets closer every day.
Then we should tap that "close" source directly - the moons' gravitational pull 
( ie tidal energy)  Maybe cheaper that hot fusion anyway

When the accountants get into the picture - the ever increasing costs of duel 
tritium or 3He is not the only the killer issue since at the same time wind and 
solar are falling to the level of very competitive.
Can anyone make the strong argument that hot fusion is worth all the massive 
funding it is getting when there is so little chance of it being cost 
competitive ?



  

Re: [Vo]:A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion

2022-12-17 Thread Jones Beene
 Dead in the water...
Requires lots of helium-3 to become commercial



H LV  wrote:  
 
 A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion
This would not possible without fibre optics to get the timing right of the 
electrical pulses.
https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38
Harry
  

Re: [Vo]:Expert Proposes a Method For Telling if We All Live in a Computer Program : ScienceAlert

2022-11-27 Thread Jones Beene
 
The actual shutdown routing... given the MADness of the War in Ukraine, seems 
to be rather evident and imminent.


H LV  wrote:  
 "Computer. End program"

On Tue., Nov. 22, 2022, 5:25 p.m. Terry Blanton,  wrote:

https://www.sciencealert.com/expert-proposes-a-method-for-telling-if-we-all-live-in-a-computer-program
 
Can we falsify the existence of a simulated universe?
  

Re: [Vo]:Expert Proposes a Method For Telling if We All Live in a Computer Program : ScienceAlert

2022-11-22 Thread Jones Beene
 Maybe LENR is the " "The Thirteenth Floor" " ... 

Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
 
https://www.sciencealert.com/expert-proposes-a-method-for-telling-if-we-all-live-in-a-computer-program
 
Can we falsify the existence of a simulated universe?  

[Vo]:Ukrainian fogbank

2022-10-07 Thread Jones Beene
With all the wild talk and propaganda about Russia actually using nukes in the 
"special military operation" in Ukraine, it was only a matter of time before 
red-mercury and/or "fogbank" and/or "ballotechnics" made the rounds. 

If Ukraine really was a main supplier of this material, then that may explain 
why Russia has not and will not resort to tactical nukes. When Vlad sez : "no 
bluff", the translation is "major bluff".

Although most of the chatter along these lines is BS, and old debunked BS at 
that, there could be an element of truth in the story - and one which has an 
LENR connection. In fact "fogbank" (see google) is definitely real and 
certainly may have a direct cold fusion connection.

OK  slow news day so far, so if nothing else - this backstory is good for a 
chuckle, but hey it is a lot more credible than Q-anon. 


[Vo]:PEM electrolyzer - LENR capable?

2022-09-18 Thread Jones Beene
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/worlds-largest-electrolyzer-has-the-shape-of-screwdriver

Re: [Vo]:transmitted and reflected pulses in a medium

2022-08-30 Thread Jones Beene
... then there's a quantum concept called "afterglow" ...

which could explain a lot if it were not imaginary

https://phys.org/news/2015-03-photon-afterglow-transmit-transmitting-energy.html

Re: [Vo]:Di Stefano preprint

2022-08-29 Thread Jones Beene
 One curious detail which sounds crazy but is worth a passing mention is the 
physical similarity of the experiment to the design of Stanley Meyer's device. 
Has this ever been mentioned before?

This experiment uses two closely spaced brass tubes, one of which is plated 
with iron. The results are said to be due to anomalous ionization. Galvanic 
corrosion is not emphasized as the operative effect. The surface effect of 
confined gases could also be a factor also not emphasized. There is little 
proof of anything nuclear.

Consider the Tesla turbine disk, with its spacing of 0.5 mm which reportedly 
provides the highest efficiency in another device where surface effects are 
seen. That is, there is an optimal disc spacing distance in the turbine device 
which could be related to this whole picture of a non-chemical energy anomaly. 

Of course, this spacing is much larger than the Casimir geometry but that 
effect could somehow be involved in a derivative way, With Meyer's device, if  
- IF -  there is also anomalous ionization due to geometry alone - that is - of 
closely spaced electrodes, and ... if this net electrical charge somehow makes 
it to the combustion chamber to aid in the hydrogen burning then the answer 
could be in some dependence on the actual spacing within the physical structure 
itself. 

Who knows? Maybe Grimer's beta atmosphere is involved ...

Jones

Jed Rothwell wrote:  
 See:  Di Stefano, A. Experimental Observation on the Lattice Energy Converter, 
preprint and PowerPoint slides. in ICCF24 Solid-state Energy Summit. 2022. 
Mountain View, CA.

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DiStefanoAexperiment.pdf


  

Re: [Vo]:​The Big Bang and the JWST

2022-08-24 Thread Jones Beene
 As Lerner admits, the CMB is the main thing which is holding the big bang 
theory together.
Yet the 'experts' really can't explain exactly how CMB radiation, which is 
moving away from us at light-speed from a single point in time, manages to 
somehow magically be reflected back so as to be observed by us as a rather 
strong signal. 

Maybe CMB should not be observable in 3 space at all.

IOW - it can be argued that the cosmic background is itself poorly understood 
and not the best feature with which to base important derivative theories on 
(like the big bang)...


H LV  wrote:  
 
 Eric Lerner comments on the first data from the JWST:

The Big Bang didn't happen
What do the James Webb images really show?
https://iai.tv/articles/the-big-bang-didnt-happen-auid-2215

Eric Lerner's claims are deflated in this 
article:https://www.cnet.com/science/space/no-james-webb-space-telescope-images-do-not-debunk-the-big-bang/
Harry
  

Re: [Vo]:Hal Puthoff's Ultraterrestrial Paper Finally Published

2022-08-12 Thread Jones Beene
 Slightly off-topic ...
Some of this stuff could have gone mainstream if Earth-Tech had validated any 
form of OU.
They gave it a try and to their credit did not cut corners... and they had some 
provocative results 

... had they been better funded - who knows?


Terry Blanton  wrote:  
 https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf  

Re: [Vo]:Very low power levels are worth TONS of money

2022-08-03 Thread Jones Beene
 "Clean Planet" has a boiler under development in partnership with Miura 
Co.,Ltd., leading boiler manufacturer in Japan. There does not appear to be a 
convincing video that I can find.


Frank Grimer wrote:  
 
 Thanks Terry but that's not it. I seem to remember a specimen, presumably 
large, in a bath - I had an image of a domestic bath but presumably it was 
probably something smaller - and vast quantities of steam being released over a 
long time period - vastly more than could arise from a chemical reaction.
Maybe I dreamt it. :-)
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 21:23, Terry Blanton  wrote:



On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:11 AM Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I can't remember where I read that Mizuno had demonstrated a specimen in a 
water bath which generated impossible amounts of steam. Can anyone provide a 
link to that experiment please?




I don't know about "impossible" but searching Jed's web site for "mizuno steam" 
returns 7 pages.  Here is the first (after the google ads).
https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoThydrogenev.pdf
Terry 
  

Re: [Vo]:How Higgs field unnaturalness enables cold fusion

2022-07-30 Thread Jones Beene
 Speaking of Ni isotopes... Axil mentions Ni64 and Ni62 in this LENR context 
... Is it significant that the Higgs mass is close to twice the average mass of 
nickel? An alloy of copper and nickel can be produce which is essentially 
identical in mass to twice Higgs.

Coincidence of irrelevant ? 

There does not appear to be good commentary on the mass similarity of Higgs 
vis-a-vis a copper nickel alloy - at least that I can find. But if this mass 
value is/was significant, the "old guard" in LENR should look more closely at 
tellurium... especially alloyed with nickel or nickel-copper. 

That is because a second glaring coincidence along these lines is that the 
mass-energy of an isotope of tellurium being almost the same value as Higgs (~ 
125 GeV) and twice that of ideal nickel or copper-nickel. 

Best of all - Low power laser irradiation seems to be a way to exploit the 
'coincidence'. See below.

This could point the way to actually being able to engineer the Higgs boson 
despite the low lifetime.

https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-have-discovered-a-new-kind-of-higgs-relative-sitting-on-the-tabletop
 

Axil Axil wrote:  
 Particle physicists have an issue with our universe, it is not natural. This 
wildly unnatural universe is at the bottom of our cold fusion experience. The 
improbable existence of our universe is what makes cold fusion possible. Our 
reality is setting on the knife's edge of existence. A minimal increase of the 
Higgs field will push the universe into disaster. Our universe is within a 
hair's breadth from destruction [snip].. the nickel isotopes became more 
enriched in Ni62 and Ni64. Ni61 also showed a great deviation from the normal 
isotopic distribution. These isotopic shifts showed redistribution of neutrons 
among the nickel atoms, yet no neutrons were ever detected during these reactor 
runs. ;

The old guard cold fusion meme cannot explain how this change in isotopic 
distribution could happen. The fusion nuclear reaction does not affect 
isotopes, it only affects the number of protons and neutrons inside a nucleus. 
As I have shown previously, this change in isotopic distribution comes from 
slight changes in the masses of the up and down quarks in protons and neutrons.
  

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24

2022-07-22 Thread Jones Beene
 Terry
Here is a little better coverage
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/30/photos-inside-tae-technologies-lab-and-nuclear-fusion-machine.html
Were it not for Google being involved, however, it would probably be yet 
another "meh" hot fusion effort - perpetually thirty years away... BUT 
hydrogen-boron does avoid Krivit's main observation that anything requiring 
tritium to operate is dead in the water.
Too bad that Norront Fusion went under. 

They seemed to have a solution that avoided most of the problems.
Hey - maybe Norman can add muon assist. and get rid of some of that weird 
hardware
???



Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
 More on the Google-funded TAE fusion success:
https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-fusion-google-reactor-norman-tae-technologies-1726342

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:57 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

Meanwhile, there's TAE's Norman
https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/TAE-Technologies-secures-funds-to-build-next-fusio

  

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24

2022-07-22 Thread Jones Beene
 Can anyone comment on the reality of the Brillouin "breakthrough" claim ?
For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable
Can they now demonstrate net real gain?



Jed Rothwell wrote:  
 QUOTE:
Brillouin Energy Corp Demonstrates CleanTech Licensable Solid State Fusion 
Boiler System at the 24th Annual International Conference on Cold Fusion 
(www.iccf24.org) July 25th – 28th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain 
View, California
Breakthrough boiler system uses hydrogen to produce low-cost heat with no 
combustion or pollution, paving the way to a clean energy future  

https://brillouinenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Brillouin-Press-Release-ICCF24-7-20-22-Final.pdf
  

Re: [Vo]:Test

2022-07-14 Thread Jones Beene
 Frank 

The effect is an interesting phenomenon even if the tendency is to overlook 
rolling resistance and friction. But the problem for the average observer - the 
problem with any metaphor or model for LENR - after all these years, is simple. 
No commercial device.
Not just no commercial device on the marketplace but little that is truly novel 
on the horizon. No toy or demo. At least the video makers with the carts have a 
commercial demo, 

Look at recent conferences. The lesson seems to be that the cost of attendance 
is inversely proportional to real technological advancement


Frank Grimer wrote:  
To me it is a metaphor for catalysis... One half of component A drops down the 
field pressure gradient to the low road and speeds up.The other half dawdles 
along the surface. They both meet up at B and complete their reaction.The 
reaction speed for the low road is therefore much faster than the reaction 
speed for the high road.
Now in this case the field is gravity. In chemical catalysis it is 
Beta-atmosphere.

In my research on clays I showed that specimens compacted from clay particle 
aggregations had a higher strength, ergo higher pF, for smaller aggregations 
than for larger aggregations.
Now one of Mizuno's experiments involved a palladium specimen compacted from 
grains of the metal. The heat generated started running away. Fearing an 
explosion he stopped it.
I read somewhere that he has since had specimens which put in a bath generate 
large amounts of steam, far too much to be the result of chemical reaction.

  
  

Re: [Vo]:Test

2022-07-08 Thread Jones Beene
This similar vid is even a bit more "fake" in terms of expectation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvlmdPLMQM4
The more general phenomenon seems to be called the Brachistochrome Problem 

https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Brac
Jones


Frank Grimer wrote:  
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmBg

Two cars.

Green low road car arrives first.

Real or Fake.

Please explain your choice.





  

Re: [Vo]:Test of heading

2022-07-07 Thread Jones Beene
 No text

Frank Grimer wrote:  
 
 Test of text  

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
 

Robin wrote:  
 
 BTW do you have the Larmor tables for thorium in a weak field? My tables will 
not open.
Thorium would be a better choice than U and is available online. I suspect that 
in a weak field the NMR resonance is going to be in the tens of MHz.
Essentially this means that the Celani effort was inefficient at least in the 
context of Brown. It begs to be redone using simple RF input. 

Too bad Paul Brown had such a ridiculous passion for hot rod racing.




In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:35:12 + (UTC):Hi,
[snip]

If someone wants to see if this works, there is a small amount of Uranium in 
granite. You could try it with a granite
block, to see if you detect an anomaly. The magnetic field should pass straight 
through the granite.
Beware however that you may be exposing yourself to elevated levels of gamma 
radiation, so a Geiger counter is
definitely a must have.


> Brown was not a fraud - but not shown to be correct either. He had support 
> from experts and his detractors were often part of the "nuclear 
> establishment" where billions were/are at stake.
>
>As for the tech - NMR is used all the time in other fields and that technology 
>could be related to Brown's claims - and not too much of a stretch, since 
>nuclear interaction is at play. The target nuclei are already wildly unstable. 
>Larmor resonance could push some of them into decay - who knows? Maybe it is 
>time for a relook,
>
>IOW the Brown claims may make sense on paper but proof or even a strong 
>showing - is lacking.
>
>There was a marginally related unproved claim of radioactivity remediation (of 
>thorium) - which is essentially what the so-called "Cincinnati group" was 
>promoting - along with the same suspicious back story
>... in the end... Follow the buck...
>
>
>
>    Chris Zell wrote:  
>Could someone explain the mystery of his radioactive battery was all about? 
>,,, Standard physics insists there is no way, no how to any convenient 
>triggering of radioactive decay. Heat, shock, chemistry – whatever. Yet he 
>claimed otherwise through some sort of resonance. 
>
>So was Brown a fraud?  
>
>
> 
>https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>Terry Blanton wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>Paul envisioned his Nucell Resonant Nuclear Battery helping solve climate 
>change in 1989.
> 
>  
> 
>http://www.rexresearch.com/nucell/nucell.htm
> 
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If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :)

  

[Vo]:Celani verifies Cincinnati Group transmutation

2022-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of thorium (plus LENR techniques) - yet in the category of being 
"overlooked"
Here is a 24 year old paper that seems to have slipped through the cracks.

Top lab did the work - competent researchers - best of the best of Italy - 
what's not to like?

https://www.osti.gov/etdeweb/servlets/purl/337674
BUT.. The results are surprising - HUGE really ... yet the tech never went 
anywhere
Go Figure



Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
 Brown was not a fraud - but not shown to be correct either. He had support 
from experts and his detractors were often part of the "nuclear establishment" 
where billions were/are at stake.

As for the tech - NMR is used all the time in other fields and that technology 
could be related to Brown's claims - and not too much of a stretch, since 
nuclear interaction is at play. The target nuclei are already wildly unstable. 
Larmor resonance could push some of them into decay - who knows? Maybe it is 
time for a relook,

IOW the Brown claims may make sense on paper but proof or even a strong showing 
- is lacking.

There was a marginally related unproved claim of radioactivity remediation (of 
thorium) - which is essentially what the so-called "Cincinnati group" was 
promoting - along with the same suspicious back story
... in the end... Follow the buck...



Chris Zell wrote:  
Could someone explain the mystery of his radioactive battery was all about? ,,, 
Standard physics insists there is no way, no how to any convenient triggering 
of radioactive decay. Heat, shock, chemistry – whatever. Yet he claimed 
otherwise through some sort of resonance. 

So was Brown a fraud?  


 
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
Terry Blanton wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
Paul envisioned his Nucell Resonant Nuclear Battery helping solve climate 
change in 1989.
 
  
 
http://www.rexresearch.com/nucell/nucell.htm
 
 
 
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Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-20 Thread Jones Beene
 Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say ...

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/


Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
 Paul envisioned his Nucell Resonant Nuclear Battery helping solve climate 
change in 1989.
http://www.rexresearch.com/nucell/nucell.htm
  

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread Jones Beene
What is the meaning of Bearden's work - as you understand it? Was there 
reliable evidence of an energy anomaly?
As I recall, there were several high quality attempted replications of MEG - 
like that of Naudin which showed nothing more than a moderately efficient 
transformer

Jones


David Jonsson wrote:  
 
https://obits.al.com/us/obituaries/huntsville/name/thomas-bearden-obituary?id=32759244
Is there a web archive somewhere? Here is one saved in April 
2022https://web.archive.org/web/20220428030850/http://www.cheniere.org/

I began faxing Bearden in the 1990s. It took more than two decades before I got 
the meaning of his critique. I hope we can achieve what he aimed for in a safe 
way.
David Jonsson
  

Re: [Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-20 Thread Jones Beene
Elon Musk has a strong and important opinion on using hydrogen as a way to 
store green (wind) energy
"The most dumb thing"

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/12/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-dismisses-hydrogen-as-tool-for-energy-storage.html
However, Musk's starting assumptions could be wrong - 

... if that is the energy content of the stored gas is greater than the 
published value 

... but what about 1.5 times the accepted value ?



[Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-19 Thread Jones Beene
This mega-project - which is to split water on a massive scale using green 
energy (wind) - makes almost no economic sense to many observers of alternative 
energy ... especially not to Elon Musk - who thinks battery storage makes more 
sense.

https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/first-ever-gigawatt-scale-electrolyser-order-confirmed-for-offshore-wind-powered-green-hydrogen-project/2-1-1220683
However, the underlying technology should have one major (hidden) feature -- 
which could not be easily funded on its own due to 'bad press' - which is to 
fully characterize and monetize LENR. Don't mention cold fusion if you want 
funding, or so it seems.

That is to say - if LENR is indeed real and robust - then it is very likely 
that splitting water using catalysis, on a large scale will uncover the extent 
of LENR utility as a base technology. 

Curiously - one potential impediment in this story is the element iridium. 

As it turns out, splitting water efficiently is most efficien with iridium 
anodes, and that is problematic. More on iridium later.




Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-06 Thread Jones Beene
 Laser cooling ... could this mechanism (arguably) have a connection to the 
Holmlid effect?
Holmlid suggests that laser irradiation in his reactor is able to annihilate 
protons, converting them to muons, Ostensibly this sounds more like heating 
than cooling.

Unfortunately his company  - Norront Fusion - has failed, and his results were 
not convincingly replicated (or were they?).

At any rate - there is a remote possibility that the laser irradiation used by 
Holmlid was operating to cool dense hydrogen, following which it was more 
easily reacted/absorbed/fused by the catalyst... or else was somehow made 
'friable' by laser cooling, 

Agreed ! this seems most improbable 

,,, but so does almost everything else in Holmlid's saga.


H LV  wrote:  
 
 A video about laser cooling for the layman. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEAZaXhD_Y

Harry

  

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
There is huge pent-up demand for cheap and carbon-free electrical power these 
days, and gullible investors are constantly being fooled. PT Barnum 
underestimated.

Holcomb Energy's technical claims may be unsophisticated to the point of being 
laughable but they will find a few suckers. Holcomb even found/married his 
version of the pretty face who can dish out the tech-talk -- as Elizabeth 
Holmes apparently showed how this tactic helps. The litany of past patent 
lawsuits - another red flag. 

Looking back a couple of years - the Danzik scam reeled in the Wall Street 
Journal. There is some similarity.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/one-mans-unlikely-quest-to-power-the-world-with-magnets-11558029179
Shame on the WSJ for sloppy journalism. Doubt if they will jump in on this one 
too.

Caveat emptor

  

Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
 Harry - perhaps you should have a look at the work and patents of Haisch and 
Moddel on the Lamb shift mechanism using hydrogen or helium in Casimir 
cavities. 

The dynamical Casimir effect can be either positive or negative and Lamb shift 
photons would be cold. IIRC there was a measured cooling effect in some tests - 
not heating - which is what they wanted.

H LV wrote: 
Now if energy levels below the ground state exist for a hydrogen atom then it 
may be possible to stimulate the electron-proton pair into this hypo-state, by 
exposing them to radiation which corresponds to the energy of the photon the 
pair is expected to release.

Harry


  

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
 Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back.

... or Steorn.


Terry Blanton wrote:  
 
 So does anyone know about these folks?  They make me think of Steorn but with 
credentials.
https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/


THE TECHNOLOGY

The HES utilizes the natural energy produced by the electron spin in the iron 
atom, converting it into usable electricity. Through a total redesign of the 
classic electric power generator, the HES:
   
   -
uses no fuel

   -
puts out no emissions

   -
runs totally silent

   -
produces no heat

   -
requires virtually no maintenance

   -
And the HES is scalable anywhere electricity is needed.

Hmmm  

Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-23 Thread Jones Beene

On the possibility of "dense helium" - shall we call it the "alpharino" ?

Helium, unlike hydrogen, will not diffuse through metals - so long as the metal 
is nonporous. The first step in densification is (probably) diffusion... but 
that problem may not be the end-of-story.

Raney nickel for instance is porous enough to pass helium and is also is 
catalytic - as in the hydrino world of Randell Mills and his Rydberg values. If 
Va'vra is right about helium shrinkage then a few possibilities are opened up 
in the search for how that feat can be accomplished.

An interesting experiment would simply look for anomalous heat as helium is 
pumped through a Raney nickel membrane.




HLV wrote: 
 A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist
Physics Letters B Volume 794, 10 July 2019, Pages 130-134
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624

Thanks for posting this. One curious observation is that there are a few other 
atoms besides hydrogen which may 'densify' : Presumably  the dense version 
would provide anomalous heat.

Quote "Our calculation also shows that other fully ionized “small-Z atoms” can 
form small-radius atoms... This would create atoms, where one electron is 
trapped on a small radius, effectively shielding one proton charge of  
thenucleus,.."

Comment/question: Doesn't this finding open up the possibility for extracting 
anomalous heat from Helium? 

There could be secondary advantages to using Helium over H - due to inertness 
leading to ability to reuse the gas over and over ...
Is there any indication of a catalyst for forming dense helium ??



I don't know, but I have begun to wonder if frigorific radiation could play a 
role in forming such atoms.
Also, for atoms below the ground state, I propose the term depressed atom. This 
would compliment the term excited atom for atoms above the ground state.

Harry  

Re: [Vo]:​small hydrogen

2022-04-23 Thread Jones Beene
HLV wrote: 
 A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist
Physics Letters B Volume 794, 10 July 2019, Pages 130-134
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624

Thanks for posting this. One curious observation is that there are a few other 
atoms besides hydrogen which may 'densify' : Presumably  the dense version 
would provide anomalous heat.

Quote "Our calculation also shows that other fully ionized “small-Z atoms” can 
form small-radius atoms... This would create atoms, where one electron is 
trapped on a small radius, effectively shielding one proton charge of  
thenucleus,.."

Comment/question: Doesn't this finding open up the possibility for extracting 
anomalous heat from Helium? 

There could be secondary advantages to using Helium over H - due to inertness 
leading to ability to reuse the gas over and over ...
Is there any indication of a catalyst for forming dense helium ??
  

[Vo]:Night time 'solar'

2022-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
Similar concept to a recent thread here - 

very low power density now - plenty of room for improvement
https://scitechdaily.com/harvesting-energy-at-night-solar-cell-keeps-working-long-after-sun-sets/
funding likely to be available from Arabia











Re: [Vo]:What would it take?

2022-04-12 Thread Jones Beene
Jonathan Berry wrote: 
> Interesting idea And while I don't think there are many things that could 
> be introduced as a toy (Otis T. Carr's patent aside) ...Or maybe a perpetual 
> motion toy, albeit if that was cheap enough to be for kids it would be a toy 
> adults would want even more (executive toys)...
... well. yes  if you can attract a cult-like following -- then who knows where 
it will go ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSdkyrJ3ipY


  

Re: [Vo]:This smells like an April 1 joke

2022-04-06 Thread Jones Beene
H LV wrote:  
 "Free rider." ...  I think public transport should be free too.but of course 
it won't really be free. 

Few thins are really free, of course especially if carbon fuel is consumed. But 
basic transportation can be much smarter and less costly, perhaps fuel-free and 
out-of-pocket free. Plus, as Elon sez -- a massive societal  shift can take 
place in a relatively short time frame. Soon!

There has been a lot of speculation online about one or more 'new paradigms' 
for automotive transportation. Many assume some kind of sharing to cover added 
costs, along with battery power, low emissions from shared solar and even 
shared-AI being a part of the total package. And of course LENR could make 
things much more interesting since the car and it battery storage capability 
will be capable of providing electricity to the homes involved. 

Critics call this kind of talk neo-Marxist, but a substantial financial benefit 
could indeed end up favoring the limit4ed situation where the net cost of 
automobile ownership becomes indeed "free" in one way accounting... 
commies-be-damned. The refusniks will be the last to profit. 

This is actually paer of the logical end-game merger of Capitalism with 
Marxism. Sure - the family car will never disappear - nor will fossil fuel, 
especially in rural areas and the Third World - but the types of shared 
ownership and common usage controlled by AI are flexible and real. 

If and when we move closer to a work-at-home society, then the value of space 
is multiplied - even garage space becomes so valuable that monetizing extra 
space could actually "pay" for basic transportation.This is already true in a 
few big cities.

The scenario which I favor combines full self-driving (self parking and self 
recharging ) with shared neighborhood ownership and hydrogen power via LENR and 
an advanced local AI network where say a dozen vehicles are shared by a dozen 
like-minded households who also get much of their electrical power from the 
cars - which can actially be parked miles away.

Dream on ! 

...and wait till the next April fools prediction by Elon where he actually buys 
into LENR...




  

Re: [Vo]:This smells like an April 1 joke

2022-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
 There is a backstory that makes the Musk Apr1 farcical endorsement of hydrogen 
more curious to those on this list.
Elon had done a rather solid and logical interview a few months back - it's on 
YTube - in which he strongly put down the notion that H2 had any chance to 
become a future transportation fuel due to intrinsic high cost - much less that 
it would be a preferred way to replace batteries. 

On the surface, he has billions tied up in an anti-H agenda... but ... but... 
this is Elon Mush who is talking, and one suspects that he is the kind of guy 
who would change horses midstream in a heartbeat and find a way to profit. 
Notably, he does not mind being wrong.

Prior to this there had been and remains a nascent movement around the idea 
that hydrogen made from wind or solar was going to be our savior on the energy 
front - despite the intractable poor economics involved in the manufacture and 
storage. 

Anyway, as we know - the main pending but unproved R prospect which could 
change things, including Elon's mind ... (and he has been known to pivot on 
such things in the past)... would be if he had witnessed one of the LENR, 
dense-H  or hydrino developments such as Clean Planet or maybe BLP. In either 
one of those Hydrogen again becomes the savior of our lifestyle... perhaps in 
the form of  "water fuel" which bypasses the H supply problem
If you had invented a functional watercar would not your first contact to 
promote it be Elon?


MSF wrote:  
I believe your olfactory skills are not required to determine this is an April 
Fools prank. It fairly screams its silly nature, especially the hydrogen rocket 
boost. If any doubt remains, the idea that you must pay in Dogecoin drives the 
nail into it.

 --- Original Message ---

 
 
https://www.whichev.net/2022/04/01/elon-musk-announces-tesla-will-switch-to-hydrogen-in-2024/
 

   

[Vo]:This smells like an April 1 joke

2022-04-01 Thread Jones Beene
https://www.whichev.net/2022/04/01/elon-musk-announces-tesla-will-switch-to-hydrogen-in-2024/

Re: [Vo]:Miura LTD the manufacturing partner of Clean Planet

2022-03-20 Thread Jones Beene
 Hey Jed / Terry and others near Atlanta GA

As it turns out -  Miura have a US-based factory in Georgia about and hour from 
Atlanta - 

Might be worth making contact - if you believe that "Clean Planet" is the real 
deal..
I am amazed that Clean Planet does not generate more comments on the forums, 
given they are claiming to start production soon of a LENR powered boiler..
Let's hope these units are not the Japanese equivalents of Rossi's shipping 
crates

Jones

 This company - Miura - has over 6000 employees and will be producing the Clean 
Planet device, which is a "boiler" that can supply heat or eventually: 
steam-to-electricity. 

https://www.miuraz.co.jp/news/newsrelease/2021/1132.php
They call the operative technology "Quantum hydrogen" which is hard to 
distinguish from the Mills effect or the Holmlid effect. 

It is not hard to imagine this device being engineered by Mitsubishi into an 
automotive power supply
Elon - are you listening?
  

[Vo]:Miura LTD the manufacturing partner of Clean Planet

2022-03-19 Thread Jones Beene
This company - Miura - has over 6000 employees and will be producing the Clean 
Planet device, which is a "boiler" that can supply heat or eventually: 
steam-to-electricity. 

https://www.miuraz.co.jp/news/newsrelease/2021/1132.php
They call the operative technology "Quantum hydrogen" which is hard to 
distinguish from the Mills effect or the Holmlid effect. 

It is not hard to imagine this device being engineered by Mitsubishi into an 
automotive power supply
Elon - are you listening?


Re: [Vo]:NASA’s New Shortcut to Fusion Power

2022-03-19 Thread Jones Beene
 Yup. One of the co-authors is Larry Forsley - who has been involved in CF/LENR 
research for decades.
We can imagine that n order to maintain funding levels they have chosen the 
(politically correct) posture of not linking the work too closely to cold 
fusion.


Jack Cole wrote:  
 
 You could, at a minimum, say this approach was inspired by all the CF 
research.  
https://spectrum.ieee.org/lattice-confinement-fusion  

Re: [Vo]:Highest efficiency water splitter

2022-03-18 Thread Jones Beene
Often it seems: the same materials, when formed in nano-layers as opposed to a 
mix - an alloy - have unexpected large physical differences from each other, 
such as hardness, as here

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1149/1.2054717/pdf

I wonder if the electrical conductivity of a layered substrate of Cu-Ni could 
be greatly altered as well ?


Re: [Vo]:Highest efficiency water splitter

2022-03-18 Thread Jones Beene
 The fact that Celani had demonstrated modest but well-publicized positive 
results a decade ago - using an alloy of copper and nickel as catalyst is 
probably important in understanding what is going on today with the Clean 
Planet technology. 

Clean Planet apparently used that information from Celani to optimize and boost 
whatever thermal gain reaction is happening. Trial and error - not theory.  
Very Edisonian approach.

They merely improved what had already been demonstrated as possible - and it 
could have been simply luck and persistence - instead of having a correct 
understand of the real mechanism, which still eludes us.

It is possible that even better results could now be engineered with additional 
layers maybe even including Pd or Au - we do not know what trials CP have done 
to get this far - and have discarded along the way,

IOW by starting with a small gain and modifying the structural options  -  this 
time by using thin alternating layers of copper and nickel as your catalyst - 
instead of an alloy (a mix) - they are able to turn an interesting but minimal 
reaction and anomaly into what we hope is leading to a commercial product. 



Robin wrote 
I find the necessity of combining Cu & Ni somewhat puzzling, though some 
neutron exchange mechanism mediated by Hydrogen
might make sense. I wonder if it works with either Ni or Cu alone?
Using alternating very thin sheets implies that's it's a surface phenomenon, 
that occurs where the two different metals
come into contact with one another.

> It looks to me like the Clean Planet group of Japan is the closest to getting 
> an actual device to market. 
  

Re: [Vo]:Highest efficiency water splitter

2022-03-18 Thread Jones Beene
 The problem in forecasting an actual use and implementation of 'new hydrogen' 
technologies is that the first implementation may not look very much like 
present expectations, based on the past 33 year history... even though one tech 
has led directly to the other, 

It looks to me like the Clean Planet group of Japan is the closest to getting 
an actual device to market. That factor is the most important detail for us in 
understanding how an emerging hydrogen economy will materialize.

If not Clean Planet (or their licensee) - who else is near market? Mills has 
true-believers, but still looks hopeless to me - at least for transportation or 
markets that will get us off of fossil fuel. For one thing CP has the backing 
of the Japanese automotive industry, and that is HUGE. In the USA, one 
worrisome thing is that the genius Elon Musk is a no-show. Is he always 
correct? He would have a stake in BLP if he thought it had a chance.

Moreover, the Storms' insight is probably not relevant to the initial product - 
unless CP is holding back a few details out of concern over IP. 

Bottom line - it is a mistake to insist that the initial variety of LENR is one 
which MUST be involve deuterium and palladium. Quantum hydrogen QH uses neither 
Pd or D2 and its underlying science is still a mystery... yet the results are 
there for all to see.

Yes, the hydrogen-nickel-copper combination - the quantum heat technology, 
should be considered to be part of the science of LENR despite the apparent 
lack of nuclear fusion per se (though there could be an unexpected connection 
which is eventually discovered). Here is their page
https://www.cleanplanet.co.jp/en/science/
Jones


Robin wrote:  
>I thought I just read in one of the papers recently posted on Vortex that 
>preparation of the surface involved oxidizing>the metal. That would make sense 
>if reacting it with Hydrogen resulted in the creation of nascent water 
>molecules that then act as Hydrino catalysts. Mills also does this to create 
>nascent water molecules to catalyze Hydrino shrinkage... What I was getting at 
>here is that some Oxygen in the Hydrogen may not always be a problem.
  

[Vo]:Highest efficiency water splitter

2022-03-17 Thread Jones Beene
This is from a new Australian company - Hysata.

https://newatlas.com/energy/hysata-efficient-hydrogen-electrolysis/
This could be an important step forward for LENR as well. 

It could be a bit more than an incremental progression.

Most viable concepts for commercial vehicles which would utilize LENR need to 
have efficient water-splitting as part of the package. Compressed hydrogen gas 
as the alternative - that is probably a non-starter for safety reasons,


Re: [Vo]:Storms preprint

2022-03-17 Thread Jones Beene
Robin
There is a possibility that the NAE site corresponds to the Casimir effect and 
its geometry.
Otherwise it is a coincidence that the presumed active zone is similar.

This Casimir dimension has maximum effect at around 2 nm --- and by now could 
be etched using state of the art nanolithography 

This is especially interesting if some hind of deuterium "densification" is 
part of the process since it would be possible to arrange a structured array of 
precise cavities instead of depending on random placement 

...  nanolithography in order to optimize LENR would be a natural for someone 
like Google, no? 

Surely they have considered this possibility


Robin wrote:  
 > Self-assembly creates regular structures (think crystal growth). It is being 
 > considered for bleeding edge IC production.
I don't think it's too much of leap to consider using it for e.g. a surface 
treatment of a cathode, or possibly a 3D
whole cathode construction, or creation of a target for a gas based reaction.
With nano particles, you will, by coincidence, get some NAE sites. With 
self-assembly, you may have the ability to
ensure that almost all the material consists of NAE sites, thus improving the 
power density markedly.

Of course this entails knowing exactly what an NAE site is. I have an idea on 
that score, but it involves Hydrinos, so
will shut up unless asked.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk 


  

Re: [Vo]:OT: Why Chernobyl ?

2022-03-08 Thread Jones Beene
Terry Blanton wrote: 
 
 Surely not:
https://cleantechnica.com/2022/03/07/would-russia-be-invading-ukraine-right-now-if-elon-musk-hadnt-shifted-the-course-of-automotive-history/
As almost everyone suspects - Elon is not the kind of genius that you want as 
your enemy. 

For one thing the hostilities so far have cost him billions with no end in 
sight. For another, Ukraine has a lot of lithium. Therefore, it would not 
surprise us if he is already in round the clock development of a completely new 
and bizarre type of weapon that will end the conflict "naturally" and to the 
satisfaction of most of the world.

With his own satellite fleet in place, for starters - the possibilities for 
taking action at the highest level, so to to speak, yet with "plausible 
deniability" seems doable if not more like fiction. Say... what kind of game 
changing weapon from SciFi  can you imagine that Elon Musk could have already 
have prototyped?
Gamma laser is one. Bottom line - Do not be surprised if Vlad is struck down 
silently during one of his propaganda tirades - perhaps by cardiac arrest ... 
and in the end it looks entirely like a health issue. 





  


  

Re: [Vo]:$2 million prize for simple/reproducible LENR experiment

2022-02-27 Thread Jones Beene
  Time's a wasting. This prize should be claimed by someone we know, no? 

Why not Celani himself? Maybe that is part of a strategic mystery scheme on his 
part

There is the older body of evidence for copper-nickel alloy, Constantin, and/or 
Monel being active for  reproducible thermal anomalies with hydrogen - going 
back a decade to Celani and Cravens - somewhat based on Mills/Holmlid theories. 
Your work (Michael Foster) is apparently much older but sounds somewhat similar 
in operation. 

If the prize is real and awarded on first to present a working model - then 
this niche seems like fertile ground for copper-nickel especially nano layered. 
Any patents should now be expired, Cravens' famous experiment is another one 
that should qualify for the prize - if he still has it working. He had lots of 
witnesses.

Hey Michael - go for it. You would also get a measure of revenge for your other 
ideas.

Surely a couple of million would make it worth the effort. The (minor) risk is 
that Celani or a mystery backer has a hidden agenda to promote his own work in 
the process - and that the prize is help him put together a few missing details.


MSF  wrote:  
 Well OK, folks, here it is. I've been planning to post this discovery for 
years, but have just been putting it off. This method has worked for me, but 
was done clear back in 1992 and 1993. No doubt you're asking that Strangelovian 
question, "Zo vy didn't you tell ze vorld, eh?" The other question would be, 
"Why didn't you patent this and become a billionaire?" The answer to these 
questions is simple. I've made three really game changing disruptive 
discoveries/inventions at different times in my life and had my head handed to 
me each time. I'm so demoralized by these events, I just didn't want to go 
through it again.
Because of that, I've stuck to businesses that don't really attract much 
attention and don't need large investment capital. What I'm saying is, I'm 
going to tell you what I did and what the results were with no expection of any 
kind. Of course, if those government officials want to mail me that $2 million 
dollar check, I won't turn it down. Fat chance of that happening.
Materials and equipment:
Tungsten wire treated with oxalic acid.Sulfamate nickel plating setup.Copper 
wire.Steel wool.6mm ID 1mm wall borosilcate tubing.Hydrogen tank (regular 
welding supply hydrogen)High vacuum setup.High vacuum evaporation 
chamber.Oxygen-propane torch.Ordinary hardware store propane torch.
Fine grade steel wool was first cleaned in an aqueous sodium hydroxide solution 
aprox. 150g/L. Then rinsed in distilled water and finally in acetone. Air dried 
with a heat gun and placed in the vacuum chamber.
My vacuum chamber uses an unusually long (approx. 200mm) tungsten filament for 
my own purposes. This particular filament was treated with an oxalic acid 
solution and rinsed with distilled water to promote the adhesion of 
electroplated nickel. Concentrated hydrogen peroxide is normally used for this 
purpose, but I have found the oxalic acid works better for me. A regular 
sulfamate nickel setup was used to deposit a layer of nickel on the tungsten. 
After the electrodeposition was finished it was removed from the setup, rinsed 
with distilled water and air dried with a heat gun. The filament was next 
spiral wrapped with various amounts of copper wire which had been stripped from 
telephone cable.
I thought of electrodeposition of the copper as well, but I wanted to observe 
the copper being evaporated before the nickel. The filament was installed in 
the evaporation chamber along with the steel wool. The steel wool was located 
horizontally from the filament at about 500mm. I realize that all of this is 
not "scientific" because I didn't weigh the nickel or the copper and increased 
the current at a rate determined by how the copper wire looked as it was 
evaporated before the nickel. The copper melting into the nickel just as the 
nickel began to evaporate was observed as the point to increase the filament 
current, all highly subjective.
Obviously, the result will be a graduated layer deposited on the steel wool 
starting with nearly all copper and finishing with nearly all nickel. The large 
surface area of the steel wool and the likely thermal distortion of it will 
produce all sorts of thicknesses and orientations of the cupronickel alloy.
The chamber was slowly brought up to atmospheric pressure and the steel wool 
inserted into a prepared borosilicate tube. The glass tube was about 300mm in 
length, sealed at one end in the manner of a test tube bottom.  The coated 
steel wool occupied about 100mm at the sealed end of the tube. Heavy high 
vacuum grade rubber tubing was connected to the glass tube with attached tee, 
valves and gauges to allow for admission of the hydrogen.
After allowing the vacuum pumps to create about 10^-6 torr. The sealed end of 
the tube was then heated with a propane torch to just below the softening point 
of the 

Re: [Vo]:OT: Why Chernobyl ?

2022-02-25 Thread Jones Beene
Ukraine is about the size of Texas and has a population of over 40 million. 

In terms of economic potential - Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores

2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore 
reserves
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores 

2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons)

2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves

3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 
trillion cubic meters)

4th in the world by the total value of natural resources

7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:

1st in Europe in terms of arable land area

3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume)

1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil

2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports

3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world

4th largest producer of potatoes in the world

5th largest rye producer in the world

5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons)

8th place in the world in wheat exports

9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs

16th place in the world in cheese exports

Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

1st in Europe in ammonia production

Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system

3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed 
capacity of nuclear power plants

3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length 
(21,700 km)

3rd largest iron exporter in the world

4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world

4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons)
... not sure how accurate this list is - but I bet Vlad knows for sure...

  

Re: [Vo]:OT: Why Chernobyl ?

2022-02-25 Thread Jones Beene
 russ.geo...@gmail.com wrote: 

> You might watch this professor of international affairs who is very learned 
> about the Ukraine. https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4
 Very prophetic. If we "follow the buck" the main overall motivation for 
invasion, as always, seems to be oil.
There could be a subplot however - given the history of the region. "Buck" has 
several meanings besides money.
Going back almost 20 years to earlier conflicts in the former Soviet republics 
(e.g. the other Georgia) materials for a so-called "dirty bomb" were found - 
there are alarming similarities.

https://americanintelligence.us/dirty-bomb-materials-siezed-in-georgia/
Chernobyl of course is a prime resource for materials for such a "payback" 
weapon. It may be too late to change that situation - but the beautiful Moscow 
subway would not be a smart place to visit until this situation is resolved.

  

[Vo]:OT: Why Chernobyl ?

2022-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
Many observers were surprised that one of the first Ukraine invasion targets 
for Russia was the cursed Chernobyl site. 

Why ? 

Given that the bottom line is going to be very costly for Putin - there must be 
a hidden agenda here.


Re: [Vo]:What Goes On In a Proton? Reason to give up on high energy experiments--

2022-02-20 Thread Jones Beene
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: 
> “One such Hail Mary pass in the theoretical world is a tool called the 
> holographic principle...

There could be much more to this story, Bob.

Although it may sound ridiculous at first - the hologram or rather a 
holographic projection made by a laser offers the best explanation for the 
recent reports of UAP (UFO) sightings most of which was happening around 
military (Naval) exercises and aircraft carriers. The ultimate motivation is 
not clear but thankfully China is probably not involved in this. At least not 
yet.

This laser hologram tech is too complicated to summarize in a few paragraphs 
but here is video that covers some of it. BTW - No reason that subatomic 
particles could not be simulated using gamma lasers so this is not that far off 
from your original post,

https://youtu.be/MDSVJfuyJlk
The curious detail most of us don't comprehend is why we seem to have one 
dark/secret Pentagon program trying to fool another less secret program? Or 
maybe they figured out that this is the best way to ultimately fool/frighten 
our enemies.

Anyway in what might be a lapse of judgement - the Navy did apply for a patent 
on one aspect of the laser hologram tech a few years ago - while at the same 
time not informing their own cadre that it is now being deployed and tested on 
themselves. Go figure.
Here is the Patent -

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200041236A1/
"Reality" once again seems to be stranger than fiction. 

Or in the vernacular:  "who's zoomin' who?" with the latest round of UAP/UFO 
disclosure

  

[Vo]:Steve dishes on ITER once again

2022-02-16 Thread Jones Beene
The dishonesty and the economic waste of this R effort is alarming

http://news.newenergytimes.net/2022/02/15/open-letter-to-editors-of-science/




Re: [Vo]:Is bulk Pd cold fusion an H-D reaction?

2022-02-03 Thread Jones Beene
Jed Rothwell wrote:

> Is there an H-D reaction? 

Awkshually ... (according to Wiki)  H+D is the predominant nuclear fusion 
reaction on our sun - not D+D. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium_fusion
Gamma radiation, or lack thereof is the key. Since H-D has no gamma signature - 
one point of the paper seems to be that a cold fusion reaction without gammas 
is by default H-D.


  

[Vo]:"Stretched water"

2022-01-29 Thread Jones Beene
'Stretched water' - as weird as it sounds, is a real mainstream property of 
water, one which could explain some of the thermal anomalies that are lumped 
under the category of LENR.

https://www.nist.gov/publications/static-and-dynamic-properties-stretched-water
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.290.5493.950
The extra reactivity of stretched water is due to temporarily elongated bonds. 
The nucleus of atoms is not suspected to be involved. One place that a small 
thermal anomaly could show up is in cavitation devices such as the Griggs pump.
In some cases like cavitation, it seems certain that there is a small amount of 
anomalous energy involved with stretched water - if so, then where is the 
excess coming from? ZPE?








Re: [Vo]:Century old electrochemistry law gets and update.

2022-01-24 Thread Jones Beene
 This article brought to mind the Stanley Meyer lore from many years ago. That 
may sound like an odd connection. It is the double layer connection ,,,

Although deceased for several decades,  Meyer was a contentious figure in so 
called "water fuel" electrolysis, with a cult-like following even today. 
(mostly in Florida :-)  

The niche water-fuel field is still active, believe it or not, despite lack of 
commercial devices -- yet If there was any magic to Meyers design it probably 
related to optimizing the double layer - which is not all that well understood 
today. Note: Meyer's close electrode spacing and low salt, etc. and massive gas 
flow. Yet I'm skeptical of most of it - but will admit seeing results from Fast 
Freddy's Meyer cell which were great (but less than what would be needed to 
match his claims)... and so it is no surprise that many considered Stan to be 
well...either a martyr or somewhat less than honest.
Yup. A persistent theme in alternative energy remains egoist inventors who find 
something interesting but can't take it further on their own.

Apologies for the rant 


  .
  

Re: [Vo]:Century old electrochemistry law gets and update.

2022-01-24 Thread Jones Beene
 I'm getting a 404 error on that link
Try this one
https://phys.org/news/2022-01-century-old-electrochemistry-law.html



On Monday, January 24, 2022, 02:00:55 PM PST, CB Sites  
wrote:  
 
 Phys.org has a nice snippet on the Gouy-Chapman theory that describes how 
charge is distributed in electrolysis, but now 40-50 years later they found 
that the description isn't really correct. They found that the double layer 
could be bigger or smaller than expected and it has dependencies on the size of 
the ion molecule and the electrode materials which can affect the 
electrochemistry of some reactions.  
It's a nice little read at 
https://phys.org/2022-01-century-old-electrochemistry-law.amp

  .
  

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread Jones Beene
 Harry
Another surprising source of cold air would be from the Ranque-Hilsch vortex 
tube. The problem is that the vortex tube is not very efficient since the hot 
side flow is usually wasted. 

It might be possible to combine a parabolic reflector with a vortex tube in 
series if one needed colder air than otherwise available.


     HLV wrote:  
 
 Here is a similar investigation using parabolic and elliptical reflectors and 
also a simple reflector with flat sides sloping at 45 degrees. With the 
parabolic reflector they managed to a cool an emitter 20 degrees below ambient 
temperature at night. The elliptical reflector was almost as good. 
https://youtu.be/7qZodSfFQCM
Harry

Jones Beene wrote:

Of interest:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262806145_Blue_Sky_Cooling_for_Parabolic_Trough_Plants

  

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
Of interest:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262806145_Blue_Sky_Cooling_for_Parabolic_Trough_Plants




[Vo]:The art of PerpMo ?

2022-01-19 Thread Jones Beene
Although most of those who post to "overunity" newsgroups actually do realize 
that - in the end - there is no such thing as perpetual motion. Or, the free 
lunch is never free, if you prefer.
OU has become one of those legendary quests - like that for the holy grail, 
which as a meme, must fulfill some deep and hidden psychological need.
In that regard, lets admit that the fascination with overunity is not only 
something like ART itself, it can be entwined and merge with art into something 
that moves to a higher plane ... well... maybe just weird and wonderful.

That must be why I find this little YouTube vid to be so fascinating - and 
given that some of the sculptures will run for 40 hours or more, this guy could 
fool many free energy optimists, if he chose to pass it off as more than art. 
He is careful not to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROP45rjvOHg 





[Vo]:Nickel-Beryllium alloy 360

2022-01-16 Thread Jones Beene
A nickel-beryllium alloy could be an interesting and available catalyst for use 
in Mills-Holmlid dense hydrogen research. It would be an active material in 
several ways - used as the target for a high pressure flow of hydrogen. The 360 
alloy is mostly nickel with a few % beryllium and some titanium. 
https://materion.com/products/high-performance-alloys/nickel-beryllium-alloy-360
AFAIK no experimenter has used this alloy in LENR before now. Researchers often 
avoid beryllium, and for good reason.

The premise, or working hypothesis for suggested experiments would be that a 
"halo nucleus" serves a critical function in the completed reaction ... which 
is first based on nickel and titanium as the 'shrinkage' catalysts forming 
dense hydrogen eventually into what can be called the  'pseudo neutron' 
(activated dense hydrogen). In this reaction, beryllium uniquely provides an 
accumulation stage - due entirely to the extended lifetime of the nuclear halo, 
which is unique. Google: halo nucleus.

Beryllium seems to be the only atom in nature which has a long-lived halo 
nucleus feature. More on the details of this (unproved) halo nucleus hypothesis 
later. Anyway, let's hypothesize for now that a pseudo-neutron or even real 
neutrin forms in a halo nucleus if there is enough time for it to react with 
the Universal neutrino flux. 

Halo lifetime is the detail which demands beryllium, despite all its negatives 
(toxicity). 

In short, the dense hydrogen of Holmlid, captured into the halo by an atom of 
beryllium, eventually can form a neutron due to interaction with natural 
neutrino flux. This reaction is anti-entropic with probability based on 
residence time in the background flux. 

Thus, beryllium could be the magic element which optimizes the conversion of 
dense hydrogen into thermal energy (possibly via boron-8 instability). It would 
only works at all since beryllium has a unique long-lived and relatively stable 
halo-nucleus property.




Re: [Vo]:Using the cold universe as a renewable and sustainable energy source

2022-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
 An Indian perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a5NyUITbyk



Jed Rothwell wrote:  
 
 This is great stuff.
This method was used to make ice in lowland India starting in the 16th century. 
Lowland India is hot!
  

Re: [Vo]:Bizarre implications

2022-01-11 Thread Jones Beene
 LOL - Maybe the backstory is that there was a real Star Wars in a galaxy 
far,far away and Mars was peripheral damage ?  Another strained coincidence 
behind this bit of  "lockdown lunacy" is the description of the nuke in the 
paper, which seems to roughly match the Oumuamua "asteroid" of a few months ago 
- the  one which was very elongated... and... a Harvard genius claimed could be 
of alien origin.

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction but nuking Mars is beyond nutty...
   
 MSF wrote:  
 I liked PKD's original titles better.  Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, 
We Can Remember It for You Wholesale, and so on.



  

Re: [Vo]:Bizarre implications

2022-01-11 Thread Jones Beene
 ... not to mention PKD's fabulous story: "Total Recall" which has the further 
subplot of implanted memory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_(1990_film)#Reality_or_fantasy

MSF wrote:  
 
 So it looks as if Edgar Rice Burroughs was right. We should rename the place 
Barsoom and see if we can find John Carter's tomb :-)


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
 


Ancient history of Mars?

https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2015/eposter/2660.pdf

Maybe Elon, a suspected alien himself - knows a few things that we don't even 
begin to comprehend :-)




  

[Vo]:Bizarre implications

2022-01-11 Thread Jones Beene
Ancient history of Mars?
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2015/eposter/2660.pdf
Maybe Elon, a suspected alien himself - knows a few things that we don't even 
begin to comprehend :-)



Re: [Vo]:OT: steam locomotive

2022-01-04 Thread Jones Beene
The most interesting new - but actually old - engine development (esp. for 
those who think LENR has a future in transportation) is the re-emergence of the 
Stilrling design. This engine design and the Brayton cycle, in general, never 
made the grade for commercialization - before now, at least. 

Change is in the air... so to speak. Unfortunately China, once again, is making 
large engineering gains while we seem to be playing catchup.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202112/1243157.shtml
Quote:  "the basic prototype of China's first large-bore Stirling engine 
successfully conducted the recent performance test... at a rated power of 320 
kilowatts with a power conversion efficiency of 40 percent, making it the most 
powerful Stirling engine known around the globe." 

There are few if any diesels which can return 40% efficiency but China got 
there on the first prototype,

The reason that the piston-Sterling could potentially augment LENR is not well 
appreciated either. Basically it is because the Brayton cycle is inherently 
closed-cycle. The Stirling can be either piston or turbine based, but the 
piston config is what LENR can possibly optimize with few changes.

IOW the closed-cycle is one way to expose a metal catalyst to a flow of 
hydrogen without combustion of the hydrogen itself. 

Thus, if the working gas contains even a small percentage of  hydrogen and the 
piston crown is coated with nickel/palladium alloy, then extra heat could 
potentially be extracted - on top of the external heat of combustion which 
occurs else where in the design, The LENR would be a booster, so to speak,

Will China be the first to realize this ? They did after all, report on 
replicating Arata and that was a decade ago.


Jed Rothwell  wrote:  
 H LV  wrote:


We don't really know how steam engines would have evolved because they were 
out-competed by diesel engines.


As I recall, the last attempts to compete with Diesel engines was with steam 
turbines. This source says the Union Pacific actually made two steam turbine 
locomotives, and tested them, in 1939 and 1962. 




  

Re: [Vo]:Information transfer

2021-12-29 Thread Jones Beene
Brilliant ... and (in general) such gadgets as solar powered motion detectors 
are such a bargain aren't they?

Isn't it amazing how the level of affordable sophistication in relatively 
mundane products has increased - and at very low cost considering the 
technology involved.  The progress in the most recent decade blows my mind.

The potential downside... This stuff would not have been possible even at 10x 
the cost --- without China ...


MSF  wrote:  
 The solution to your problem has likely already been built. It's the remote 
motion detector. You can buy these on ebay for around 20 dollars US. Just drop 
the motion detector in the mailbox and it triggers a really loud alarm on the 
receiving unit inside your house. I have used these in my back garden  to 
detect sneaky racoons digging up my lawn. They claim a very long range, 400ft 
to 900ft, but I'm not sure how far it would be enclosed in a mail box.


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Wednesday, December 29th, 2021 at 1:21 AM, Robin 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for an elegant, simple, cheap means of transmitting a single bit 
> of information over a distance of 50
>
> meters, without wires.
>
> Imaginative solutions sought. :)


Re: [Vo]:Information transfer

2021-12-28 Thread Jones Beene
 Here's one to look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telegraph

     Giovanni Santostasi  wrote:  
 
 What is the rate of transfer of information? Only a single bit one time? 


On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:43 PM Robin  wrote:

In reply to  Giovanni Santostasi's message of Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:35:35 -0800:
Hi,

Very inventive. :) However no human intervention possible. Method preferably 
electronic.

>An arrow with a message written on a piece of paper wrapped around the
>arrow. 50 meters should be a relatively easy shot.



  

Re: [Vo]:OT: Kita - Demo Gravity Shield v.Rossi LENR

2021-12-10 Thread Jones Beene
Ron,
Is chirality involved with the Rossi claim? 

LOL - he has apparently dropped LENR for ZPE... 

For those who are not aware of the "chiral miracle"
https://cqgplus.com/2016/09/12/cqg-insight-chiral-gravity/


[Vo]:When is a light emitting diode not an LED ?

2021-12-10 Thread Jones Beene
The LED or "light-emitting diode" as we all appreciate, is defined as a 
semiconductor junction which emits visible light when a voltage is applied. 
There are other kinds of diodes which emit light but do not employ a 
semiconductor. Consequently, it would not be incorrect - semantically - to call 
a generic spark discharge or an electric arc with no semiconductor, or a hybrid 
device with arc discharge - a LED. 

A lamp used for automotive headlamps, called the HID, can be super-efficient 
and is the subject of dozens of patents - surpassing even semiconductor LEDs in 
efficiency, especially when radioactive materials are employed. A niche market 
for extreme brightness headlamps for cars emerged a decade ago - using costly 
xenon-filled bulbs - and there were other types of efficient lamps being 
prototyped - none of which were gainful on their own of course ... but ... 
perhaps being being relevant to the Rossi story. When used in a boot-strap 
fashion - as an efficient photon pump, the idea would be to stimulate UV 
emission in a coating of the HID bulb using the Mills effect. 

Is this grasping at straws? Maybe, but it is a slow News day. Plus, there are a 
few notable hydrides which are semiconductors and a few which fluoresce when 
pumped by photons. If one wanted to believe that there could be a device which 
emitted more light than the equivalent electric input - then there are actually 
a couple of possibilities for such a hybrid configuration. This includes an 
optical coating for a HID lamp -- which is pumped to emit UV. Such a bulb 
coating as a hydride, could provide positive feedback to lower the required 
current required by the HID bulb. Thus a small gain would be possible.

This is crunch time for AR and many former followers have now written him off 
completely, since it appears to be the same old scam as before. And now that 
even Mats Lewan is about to dump him - AR has little choice but to provide a 
real test which shows actual net gain... not that there is any credibility 
left, but who knows?
It is a curiously contrarian thought to imagine that this guy, as dishonest as 
he has been in the past, really did stumble onto something valid after having 
been little more than a scoundrel for decades.


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Re: [Vo]:Rossi demos his product line to be available for pre-order

2021-12-09 Thread Jones Beene
> Is this device looking like a repackaged HID lamp?
Curiously, it could still be gainful - which is not clear from the data. 

BTW the operational data was supplied by the genius - Levi - deja vu all over 
again.


OK - if we are not in some strange time warp, this collection of details begs 
the all-important question - how efficient is the lamp, really?
A quick googling suggests these lamps can be very efficient especially in 
specialty applications, IF radioactive materials are used.
Wiki-the-wise states: Some HID lamps make use of thorium and krypton-85 ! 
Krypton-85 is a gas and is mixed with argon, which is in the arc tube of the 
lamp. The thorium is used in the electrodes.  Notably ionized argon is a Mills 
catalyst, which could make this a hybrid LENR device if it does test out to be 
gainful.

Wiki: These isotopes produce ionizing radiation of alpha and beta type. This 
radiation causes high ionization inside the lamp without being able to escape 
from the lamp.[5] High ionisation makes arc starting via Townsend avalanche 
much easier. Moreover, the presence of thorium in electrodes reduces the work 
function which again results in easier arc starting and sustaining.The amount 
of gamma radiation produced by the isotopes that can escape from the lamp is 
negligible.[5]
 






Re: [Vo]:Rossi demos his product line to be available for pre-order

2021-12-09 Thread Jones Beene
Is this device looking like a repackaged HID lamp?
Time will tell ...

  

Re: [Vo]:Freire et al., Preliminary survey on cold fusion

2021-12-04 Thread Jones Beene
 
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
  Axil, I can send you any time a gamma spectrum with 300 active lines from a 
cold fusion reaction...-
Is this work published? 

It should be included in the LENR/CANR library, especially if the gamma lines 
support a theory
  

Re: [Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?

2021-12-02 Thread Jones Beene
 
Bill Antoni wrote:  
> in relation to Robin's suggestion of using a saturated KOH solution in an 
> electrolytic cell, which I found interesting because that is something I 
> personally explored a while back in crude experiments, as it can 
> significantly lower the voltage from which a visible plasma can be observed 
> (about 25-30V)
Do you by any chance have a radiation monitor capable of seeing a signal from 
your cell when unpowered ? 

It would be significant if there was an increase in counts which tracked the 
onset of a visible plasma (assuming the plasma itself is below the threshold 
for detection)
 


   

Re: [Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?

2021-12-02 Thread Jones Beene
Bill Antoni wrote:  
 > FWIW, excess hydrogen output (relative to Faraday efficiency) has been 
 > measured in plasma electrolysis cells in the early 2000s by Mizuno et al., 
 > but they found it to be correlated with negative heat (endothermic 
 > reaction). When excess heat was present, there was no excess hydrogen... 
 > Furthermore, in their case the overall energetic efficiency was low due to 
 > the high voltages required.
 
This doesn't give us much of a clue about what could be the cause of excess 
hydrogen... unless Holmlid's muons are carrying away heat somehow while 
splitting off protons in the process. 

An interesting and slightly different approach about increasing the 40K decay 
rate is based on acknowledging that it should be forbidden altogether, given 
the nuclear spins involved. Of all isotopes - this is the longest known 
half-life for any primordial positron-emitter... which is due to spin 4 -- and 
since its decay products have spin 0. This anomaly makes me think that by 
strongly increasing Larmor precession i.e. the nuclear spin of the electrolyte 
- then the half-life can of 40K will be shortened and maybe the result will be 
seen as gammas. This supposes that there is a connection between spin and 
nuclear stability that is not fully understood.
 
That outcome would possibly make it worthwhile to design a simple experiment to 
investigate,

   

Re: [Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?

2021-12-01 Thread Jones Beene
This article was sent to me on the related topic of 'magnetic water-splitting' 
(related to NMR in the obvious way).

Magnet doubles hydrogen yield from water splitting
Aligning the spin states of oxygen intermediates overcomes a bottleneck in 
electrolysishttps://cen.acs.org/physical-chemistry/Magnet-doubles-hydrogen-yield-water/97/web/2019/06
There is a case to be made for an entirely new way to split water - using RF 
with strong magnets and potassium NMR. A side effect would be cooling of the 
electrolyte.

"IF" (big if) unusually high hydrogen output from an RF electrolysis cell can 
be demonstrated, then good evidence of what is happening to account for the 
gain - whether it is Millsean/Holmlid or instead is related to nuclear beta 
decay, can be as simple and foolproof as the detection of anomalous argon.
The transmutation test of interest is called "K-Ar dating" and many University 
Geology Labs have the capability. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%E2%80%93Ar_dating
Of course there could be two different causes for gain but the more the merrier.



Re: [Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?

2021-11-30 Thread Jones Beene
 Robin, your comment brings up an interesting possibility - at least for 
water-splitting... given the large amount of effort that has gone into 
efficient electrolysis over the past few decades

There is copious data to indicate that KOH electrolysis can exceed "unity" ... 
by a small amount, but "how" this controversial result could ever happen in 
practice, is far from clear. Is there an unexpected (non-thermal and perhaps 
photonic pathway such as EUV ) mechanism at work?

Is there any chance that NMR resonance itself transfers a few eV of mass/energy 
locally from the K nucleus to the chemical bond of water, which then results in 
splitting off a proton ?? And after long use then results in a novel kind of 
nuclear reaction as a book-balancer... changing the nuclear dynamics from push 
to pull


Robin wrote:  
If I understand this correctly, the reaction of K40 + e- => Ar40 should yield 
about 2.5 MeV. However I suspect that most
of the energy would be carried away, never to be seen again, by the neutrino.  

[Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?

2021-11-30 Thread Jones Beene
An accelerated weak-force interaction - as odd as this possibility may sound - 
could be of interest to those trying to find and optimize what is in fact 
"real" nuclear energy - but which may have been classified as LENR or Millsean 
- formerly. 

This is rather ironic but the radioactive isotope of potassium, 40 K, has been 
tossed around for decades as being a prime hidden candidate for accelerated 
decay (assuming such is possible) and "free" energy. It does turn up 
prominently in experiments where energy gain is claimed. Curiously the patent 
in question does not mention the weak force or accelerated decay of potassium. 
Nor does it mention the Mills connection but it does supply some interesting 
thinking about a procedure to implement EC. Too bad that the IP (apparently) 
went nowhere.

‎BTW - Excess energy of 40K potassium is 33.5 MeV per nucleon but the natural 
abundance of the rare isotope is only one part in 10,000 in natural ore, so the 
potential energy available - if it were not for the long half-life, is about a 
pound of KOH as the equal of a ton of coal. Not bad especially if that excess 
energy could be used to spit water, which is the interesting thing about lye - 
it has always been known to be the best electrolyte available.

One idea for ultra efficient electrolysis would be to use RF instead of DC at 
the NMR frequency (a few MHz dependent on an applied magnetic field).

The title of the expired patent is "Electron capture by Magnetic Resonance" 
Inventor Edwin Bondoc WO2003019219A1 (originally in French) Note- this is about 
generalized electron capture;
  
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2003019219A1/en?oq=WO2003019219A1 


Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-24 Thread Jones Beene
MSF  wrote:  
 Jones, is there a link where we could access your monel metal experiments? 
Years ago, I did a lot of CF experiments using cupronickel in an unusual form. 
These were successful, but the results were inconsistent for reasons that are 
obvious when you know my procedure.  I am not a scientist, so I have no written 
records of my methods, but I think I should write up a brief description of 
what I did giving anyone who is interested to try the same. The discussion on 
this thread about iron oxide as a catalyst might explain why my technique 
appeared to work.--
Michael, our final report for the ARPA-E grant should be available on their 
website under the corporate name, which is Space Orbital Systems. The work was 
done at SRI by Ron Clark and myself. The focus was methane conversion - into 
liquid fuel. At that time ARPA was not funding LENR.

https://arpa-e.energy.gov/technologies/projects/low-temperature-methane-conversion-through-impacting-common-alloy-catalysts
The thermal anomaly using monel catalyst was outside the scope of our original 
grant, and not included in the final report. In retrospect, we should have 
tried for follow-on funding based on that anomaly but at that particular time, 
the Administration was trying to get rid of ARPA-E altogether and we didn't go 
for it. There seems to be plenty of money available now from ARPA-E and they 
are interested in splitting water efficiently among other things.

Others (Celani, Clean Planet) have had success with copper-nickel alloys. If 
Mills is to be believed, a small addition of molybdenum would be interesting as 
everything builds on the initial drop in his theory.

JB





  

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread Jones Beene
Thanks for remembering this experiment from Simon Brink !
The effect is surprisingly large and my bet is that it only works well with 316 
grade SS.
If so - that would be good evidence for Mills' theory and the importance of the 
lowest energy catalyst. Nickel alone should not work as well.

As you suggest, eliminating color change should be attempted but for those who 
follow Holmlid, another wrinkle  would be using a laser pointer


Bill Antoni wrote  
 On a related note, Simon Brink proposed a good while back an experiment with 
electrolytically H-loaded SS316 plates exposed to infrared light; he suggested 
that excess heat would be generated with high repeatability, using thermometry. 
 
 http://subtleatomics.com/excess-heat
 
 I'm not entirely convinced by this approach as electrolysis could affect 
surface emissivity (the cathode can turn dark or black after prolonged 
electrolysis), but it could be a starting point under simpler experimental 
conditions.
 
 Cheers, BA
 
 
   

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-23 Thread Jones Beene
 It is hard to separate Mills' theory from Holmlid's work. They are likely to 
be complementary with both offering important details. One early experiment for 
a "critical volume" validation could involve the catalytic propensity of 
reactor itself. IOW - a large volume with NO added catalyst other than the 
reactor onterior surface - that, in itself, could produce a thermal or photon 
emission anomaly.

The main detail to keep in mind - the type of stainless steel used.

Stainless steel contains nickel and iron - both catalysts according to Mills 
but requiring high ionization. Perhaps a dedicated catalyst is unnecessary if 
the reactor composition is optimum. The best reactor choice to investigate 
would be grade 316 stainless. Here's why.
Grade 316 is a molybdenum bearing alloy. Notably  - in Mills' theory, 
molybdenum (as an ion) is the closest fit of all metals in the periodic table 
to the magic catalytic energy of 27.2 eV - the Rydberg value required. Both 
iron and nickel require much higher ionization. An alloy, as opposed to a pure 
metal, can provide pseudo ionization in such a situation when exposed to 
protons.

Who knows ? - a large enough 316 grade reactor could produce a UV flash using a 
puff of H2 and with no added or dedicated catalyst, especially if the surface 
is pitted. 

Mills should have thought of this himself :-)


Bill Antoni wrote   
 > The "critical volume" idea I proposed was mostly based on the simple 
 > observation that ... {Holmlid}... uses only a very small fraction of the 
 > admitted hydrogen over the catalyst seemingly transitions to a denser 
 > state...  

Re: [Vo]:The "hero" LENR experiment ?

2021-11-22 Thread Jones Beene
 Hi Bill,
Your thought about "critical volume" is intriguing and brings up the 
possibility of efficient self-lasing due to adsorption/desorption and 
catalysis. Of interest would be the violet H line at 410 nm for which there is 
already a secret US Navy weapon in this category. Coincidence?

This could involve the possibility of a self-generating two-gas laser where one 
gas is hydrogen and the other is hydrogen in the collapsed state, formed in 
situ and making the device efficient due to a UV emission cascade. This might 
explain why a hemispherical reactor is useful (assuming reflectivity is 
enhanced)

In this regard, this old patenthttps://patents.google.com/patent/US4159453A/en
and this article 
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/lc/2008/839873/
seem to suggest that something like this possibility has been considered 
before... and might explain why the Thermacore project (with the Navy) was 
"apparently" canceled, despite the energy anomaly. 

Probably worth a deeper look...


Bill Antoni wrote:  
  Jones Beene wrote:
 
 One further thought about the Thermacore runaway - is there a potential lesson 
there, for experiment design ?
There could be one lesson which can be called - GO BIG... but also BEWARE if 
you go big. Perhaps there is something akin to critical mass, which is 
important for 
maximum gain, as in nuclear fission? 
 
 If there is a very small but non-zero chance for hydrogen to undergo certain 
transitions as it's adsorbed-desorbed from the catalyst material, then more 
than critical mass it could be a matter of critical volume of catalyst through 
which hydrogen travels before something occurs. 
 
 Perhaps that could explain why resonating systems are sometimes suggested to 
work well. They might be able to maximize hydrogen interaction events (defined 
as adsorption-desorption cycles) per unit of time with the catalyst.
 
 Just a simple thought.
 Cheers, BA
   

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