Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Not if you consider that the code name for Windows XP was Cairo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho

"In hoc signo vinces"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_hoc_signo_vinces


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 6:02 AM Jonathan Berry 
wrote:

> Wow, this just showed up in my FB feed...
> Wow, this seems like a bad joke, but Microsoft literally has a "mark of
> the beast" human implanted chip for cryptocurrency which has a world patent
> number of (2020) 060606. This is telling quite clearly that this is an
> satanic system being put in place!
>
>
> https://thewatchtowers.org/microsoft-owns-international-patent-060606-a-cryptocurrency-system-using-humans-who-have-been-chipped-as-the-miners/amp/
>
> That's not a coincidence, that's a disclosure.
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 21:36, Jonathan Berry 
> wrote:
>
>> Um, have you seen by any chance the evidence that the Pandemic was
>> planned, orchestrated?
>> From predictive programming at the previous Olympics ceremony (including
>> Boris is a hospital bed), to a ton of weird "coincidences" all over the
>> place, Fauci predicting it, funding a Wuhan lab...
>>
>> There is a LOT of weirdness around this.
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 12:34, Lennart Thornros 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 19:40 Jones Beene  wrote:
>>>
 Robin,

 Yes. However if an AI which is accurately modeling outcomes behind the
 scenes was developed, programmed and funded by a secretive group to which
 we can attach that name, then it makes little difference what label gets
 the blame ... why not "satan"?

 One could also label an expected massive kill-off (with an imagined
 purpose) as "the apocalypse" or even as "god's will", no?

 IOW the complexity of the dynamics at play seem to make human
 capabilities (to understand sufficiently or predict outcomes accurately)
 impossible. Thus our rationality wants us to find a "real" causative
 sources, especially elsewhere than our beloved "nature"..

 We hate to confront the fact that evil, randomness and ignorance are
 synonymous...  even natural.


 mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 > I like it.
 >Now imagine all that future you envision having been precision
 orchestrated in the year 2020 by an AI which few humans knew about...


 I don't think it was an AI. More like the Illuminati. ;)






Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-21 Thread Jonathan Berry
Wow, this just showed up in my FB feed...
Wow, this seems like a bad joke, but Microsoft literally has a "mark of the
beast" human implanted chip for cryptocurrency which has a world patent
number of (2020) 060606. This is telling quite clearly that this is an
satanic system being put in place!

https://thewatchtowers.org/microsoft-owns-international-patent-060606-a-cryptocurrency-system-using-humans-who-have-been-chipped-as-the-miners/amp/

That's not a coincidence, that's a disclosure.

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 21:36, Jonathan Berry 
wrote:

> Um, have you seen by any chance the evidence that the Pandemic was
> planned, orchestrated?
> From predictive programming at the previous Olympics ceremony (including
> Boris is a hospital bed), to a ton of weird "coincidences" all over the
> place, Fauci predicting it, funding a Wuhan lab...
>
> There is a LOT of weirdness around this.
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 12:34, Lennart Thornros 
> wrote:
>
>> I like it.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 19:40 Jones Beene  wrote:
>>
>>> Robin,
>>>
>>> Yes. However if an AI which is accurately modeling outcomes behind the
>>> scenes was developed, programmed and funded by a secretive group to which
>>> we can attach that name, then it makes little difference what label gets
>>> the blame ... why not "satan"?
>>>
>>> One could also label an expected massive kill-off (with an imagined
>>> purpose) as "the apocalypse" or even as "god's will", no?
>>>
>>> IOW the complexity of the dynamics at play seem to make human
>>> capabilities (to understand sufficiently or predict outcomes accurately)
>>> impossible. Thus our rationality wants us to find a "real" causative
>>> sources, especially elsewhere than our beloved "nature"..
>>>
>>> We hate to confront the fact that evil, randomness and ignorance are
>>> synonymous...  even natural.
>>>
>>>
>>> mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > I like it.
>>> >Now imagine all that future you envision having been precision
>>> orchestrated in the year 2020 by an AI which few humans knew about...
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think it was an AI. More like the Illuminati. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-21 Thread Jonathan Berry
Um, have you seen by any chance the evidence that the Pandemic was planned,
orchestrated?
>From predictive programming at the previous Olympics ceremony (including
Boris is a hospital bed), to a ton of weird "coincidences" all over the
place, Fauci predicting it, funding a Wuhan lab...

There is a LOT of weirdness around this.

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 12:34, Lennart Thornros  wrote:

> I like it.
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 19:40 Jones Beene  wrote:
>
>> Robin,
>>
>> Yes. However if an AI which is accurately modeling outcomes behind the
>> scenes was developed, programmed and funded by a secretive group to which
>> we can attach that name, then it makes little difference what label gets
>> the blame ... why not "satan"?
>>
>> One could also label an expected massive kill-off (with an imagined
>> purpose) as "the apocalypse" or even as "god's will", no?
>>
>> IOW the complexity of the dynamics at play seem to make human
>> capabilities (to understand sufficiently or predict outcomes accurately)
>> impossible. Thus our rationality wants us to find a "real" causative
>> sources, especially elsewhere than our beloved "nature"..
>>
>> We hate to confront the fact that evil, randomness and ignorance are
>> synonymous...  even natural.
>>
>>
>> mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
>>
>> > I like it.
>> >Now imagine all that future you envision having been precision
>> orchestrated in the year 2020 by an AI which few humans knew about...
>>
>>
>> I don't think it was an AI. More like the Illuminati. ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>


Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
I like it.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 19:40 Jones Beene  wrote:

> Robin,
>
> Yes. However if an AI which is accurately modeling outcomes behind the
> scenes was developed, programmed and funded by a secretive group to which
> we can attach that name, then it makes little difference what label gets
> the blame ... why not "satan"?
>
> One could also label an expected massive kill-off (with an imagined
> purpose) as "the apocalypse" or even as "god's will", no?
>
> IOW the complexity of the dynamics at play seem to make human capabilities
> (to understand sufficiently or predict outcomes accurately) impossible.
> Thus our rationality wants us to find a "real" causative sources,
> especially elsewhere than our beloved "nature"..
>
> We hate to confront the fact that evil, randomness and ignorance are
> synonymous...  even natural.
>
>
> mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
>
> > I like it.
> >Now imagine all that future you envision having been precision
> orchestrated in the year 2020 by an AI which few humans knew about...
>
>
> I don't think it was an AI. More like the Illuminati. ;)
>
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
 Robin,
Yes. However if an AI which is accurately modeling outcomes behind the scenes 
was developed, programmed and funded by a secretive group to which we can 
attach that name, then it makes little difference what label gets the blame ... 
why not "satan"?

One could also label an expected massive kill-off (with an imagined purpose) as 
"the apocalypse" or even as "god's will", no?

IOW the complexity of the dynamics at play seem to make human capabilities (to 
understand sufficiently or predict outcomes accurately) impossible. Thus our 
rationality wants us to find a "real" causative sources, especially elsewhere 
than our beloved "nature".. 

We hate to confront the fact that evil, randomness and ignorance are 
synonymous...  even natural.


mix...@bigpond.com wrote:  
> I like it.
>Now imagine all that future you envision having been precision orchestrated in 
>the year 2020 by an AI which few humans knew about...

I don't think it was an AI. More like the Illuminati. ;)



  

Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-20 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:29:04 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]
> I like it.
>Now imagine all that future you envision having been precision orchestrated in 
>the year 2020 by an AI which few humans knew about...

I don't think it was an AI. More like the Illuminati. ;)

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
 I like it.
Now imagine all that future you envision having been precision orchestrated in 
the year 2020 by an AI which few humans knew about...

Jones


On Monday, April 20, 2020, 12:36:14 PM PDT, AlanG  
wrote:  
 
   View the current state of the world as a dystopian science-fiction book in 
progress. The plot line going forward: there was no easy cure found, an 
effective vaccine for example. Looking back from 50 years or so, we see carbon 
emission was reduced by 70%, world population reduced by 50% and globalization 
essentially ended by strict quarantine of most goods and people, with travel 
more than 100 km prohibited without special need. But creativity and VR-enabled 
social interaction flourish, and the advance of science continues unabated. 
Consumption-based capitalism is a thing of the past, replaced by careful 
management of resources and universal education in sustainability.
 
 I'm not asserting this as a personal philosophy, merely an exploration of 
what-if. But the future sure ain't what it used to be. 
 
 Don't Panic!
 AlanG   

[Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

2020-04-20 Thread AlanG
View the current state of the world as a dystopian science-fiction book 
in progress. The plot line going forward: there was no easy cure found, 
an effective vaccine for example. Looking back from 50 years or so, we 
see carbon emission was reduced by 70%, world population reduced by 50% 
and globalization essentially ended by strict quarantine of most goods 
and people, with travel more than 100 km prohibited without special 
need. But creativity and VR-enabled social interaction flourish, and the 
advance of science continues unabated. Consumption-based capitalism is a 
thing of the past, replaced by careful management of resources and 
universal education in sustainability.


I'm not asserting this as a personal philosophy, merely an exploration 
of what-if. But the future sure ain't what it used to be.


Don't Panic!
AlanG