Re: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-22 Thread torulf.greek
I played around with my geiger counter an find it making beeps near my plasma bulb. It also making beep on a electric train then there are sparks at the connecting on the roof. I have heard that the geiger tubes is sensitive for electrical fields. But if the voltage is high enough a

[Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Nigel Dyer
I have built myself a marx generator which produces an output voltage of the order of 20kV and which can produce a very nice fat spark if the output electrodes are close enough. I have a conventional geiger counter and I find it beeps if it is within 5cm of the high voltage output. The

RE: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Nigel Dyer Oddly I could not find any reference to this artefact on the internet. Is this just something that everyone knows but no-one writes down? Nigel, Yes, This is an artifact of RF noise operating on the circuit of the meter. This information can be

Re: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
The phenomena you describe is what Jo Papp used in his engine to activate his electrodes, that is, to make them more reactive. Interestingly, lightning rods in the 1930s contained alpha emitters to better attract the lightning. I believe that this common practice back in the 30s is where Papp got

Re: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Sorry, Axil. The purpose of lightning rods are not to attract lightning. To the contrary, they are for dissipating the charge buildup in the surrounding earth and thus create a lightning shield. One company has made quite a business of building dissipation arrays.

Re: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Quoting Franklin: The electrical fire would, I think, be drawn out of a cloud silently, before it could come near enough to strike On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, Axil. The purpose of lightning rods are not to attract lightning. To the

Re: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
Terry your reference is misapplied to radioactive lightning rods. There are apparently more than one technology to protest against lightning. I am sure your reference describes a superior technology compared to alpha emissions through radium. The purpose of this alpha emission rod is to capture

Re: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Axil Axil
Let the bickering begin... On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Quoting Franklin: The electrical fire would, I think, be drawn out of a cloud silently, before it could come near enough to strike On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Terry Blanton

Re: [Vo]:Geiger counters and fast rates of change of voltage gradients

2014-07-21 Thread Kevin O'Malley
What I would do is investigate whether this alpha discharge happens when the arc reaches across a vaccuum. http://www.quantum-potential.com/ACT%20NASA.pdf On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: I have built myself a marx generator which produces an output