Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:42 AM 7/20/2012, Robert Lynn wrote: The true test is how many parts remain on the bench after reassembly. There are often parts left. No, the true test is if the thing still works. (Many screws are redundant.) (Yes, alternate assembly can be interesting, but pretty advanced for a

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-20 Thread Alain Sepeda
no the name was added by a member, and finally, after long search I found the trick. the embedded photo is simple without legend, and the PPT author seems to have made a big security errror is not cropping really the photo... (there have been similar failur in PDF blackening that let the real

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-20 Thread Bob Higgins
The strange device aside with lead screen is probably a large NaI gamma ray scintillator / spectrometer. In this photo, there looks to be a high voltage cable with rubber cap going to one of the spark plugs on the visible reactor end. On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Alain Sepeda

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Abd, ... When I was a kid, I took lots of things apart and looked at how they were put together. Sometimes I even managed to put them back together. I still take things apart and look at how they are put together. And sometimes I put things together. Indeed, taking things apart can

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-20 Thread Robert Lynn
The true test is how many parts remain on the bench after reassembly. On 20 July 2012 14:52, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Abd, ... When I was a kid, I took lots of things apart and looked at how they were put together. Sometimes I even managed to put

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-20 Thread Andre Blum
murphy's 5th law: if you take apart and reassemble a device often enough, you will end up with two devices. On 07/20/2012 11:42 AM, Robert Lynn wrote: The true test is how many parts remain on the bench after reassembly. On 20 July 2012 14:52, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson

[Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, At first I hesitated in posting this potential news publicly, but since it's already being discussed in several websites, I ought to share it here as well. Why delay the inevitable? You might remember Jim Dunn's presentation from ILENRS-12 posted on PESN [1][2]. On page 9 it

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Yeah, that's Vysotskii, looking old. What's the big deal? Defkalion accidentally left the names of the researchers in the photos they uploaded. None of these people has told me a thing, by the way. I don't bug them, because they have signed NDAs. That's a pretty sad experimental setup, isn't

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-07-19 23:52, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yeah, that's Vysotskii, looking old. What's the big deal? Defkalion accidentally left the names of the researchers in the photos they uploaded. Well, given the latest unconfirmed grave news of the company possibly leaving the country, with all the

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:52 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yeah, that's Vysotskii, looking old. Funny, it doesn't look like Vysotskii to me, the person sitting at the table looks younger. But appearances can be decieving, it might be Vysotskii. I've only seen photos. Someone who actually knows Vysotskii

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Andre Blum
So.. what do you guys think: is Vysotskii an employee / contractor there, or was he there for one of the third party tests [ or can that distinction not be made at all ]? In any case: First we had just a website with a forum, then we had a photo of a front door of a building with a defkalion

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Funny, it doesn't look like Vysotskii to me, the person sitting at the table looks younger. But appearances can be decieving, it might be Vysotskii. I've only seen photos. I've only seen photos too. I don't recall meeting him. Could be wrong.

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I've only seen photos too. I don't recall meeting him. Could be wrong. You have his paper on biological transmutations on your site. T

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:38 PM 7/19/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I've only seen photos too. I don't recall meeting him. Could be wrong. You have his paper on biological transmutations on your site. Oh, he knows that! I'd thought that Jed

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Nothing wrong with making up stuff, it's *very* human, but it really helps to be aware that this is what we are doing. My impression is that you are trying to unmake stuff. T

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:11 PM 7/19/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Nothing wrong with making up stuff, it's *very* human, but it really helps to be aware that this is what we are doing. My impression is that you are trying to unmake