Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-23 Thread Joshua Cude
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: the tobacco industry stopped cancer research; No, they didn't. They slowed down public acceptance of the danger, and government action against smoking. But from the earliest evidence, the medical establishment accepted

[Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
[Someone here found Mr. Cage's e-mail address, and suggested I contact him about the memo. I just sent him this message.] Subject: Do you recall the intent of this memo? Dear Mr. Cage, I run an online library of scientific papers about cold fusion. We have a bibliography of 3000 papers and

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: [Someone here found Mr. Cage's e-mail address, and suggested I contact him about the memo. I just sent him this message.] Subject: Do you recall the intent of this memo? Dear Mr. Cage, I gather this is a personal

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I gather this is a personal email address? After all, I wouldn't expect him to be working in that job still after almost 23 years. Correct. He is an impressive person:

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
The memo is from 1989. That was when PF's cold fusion was popular and the patent office probably got many thousands of applications in a huge flood. They would have had to organize a method of segregating them out and assigning them to specialists who had familiarized themselves with patent

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: They would have had to organize a method of segregating them out and assigning them to specialists who had familiarized themselves with patent issues in the field. I suspect that's what the memo was about rather than some nefarious plot by some unknown

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: The Patent Office did, in fact, suppress cold fusion applications in 1989. They still do. This is not debatable. All applications are summarily rejected with a form letter that

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Craig Haynie
It is not in the interest of the US Patent Office or the US government to suppress cold fusion devices -- to the contrary, discovery of a robust energy generator that worked with cold fusion would be spectacular for the economy of the US and would reduce or eliminate dependence on foreign

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone remember this? In 2002, (or thereabouts), Randell Mills applied for a patent for his method of creating heat with a device in a similar fashion to the method that Rossi is using, and his patent was

RE: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jones Beene
Craig, I think it was earlier than that, and you could be referring to Dr. Peter Zimmerman, not Park. Robin may remember this incident, as it was reported on HSG forum some years ago. If memory serves, at the time this person (either Park of PZ or someone else) protested vehemently - not only

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Needless to say, protecting cushy family jobs was not disclosed, in the interest of fairness. However, this seems to be a typical motivation for Ivy League techno-hegemonists with connections to hot fusion ... I

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree. Nobody can protect their jobs by suppressing the greatest discoveries of the last century. Lots of people made tons of money suppressing the greatest discoveries of the last century! The dairy industry suppressed pasteurization from 1860 to