In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:47:10 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Here is a ring island proposal for pumped hydro in the North Sea. This is
basically a large hole in the ocean:
http://www.hydroworld.com/articles/2013/january/belgium-considers-ring-island-energy-storage-scheme.html
People here have often remarked that an improved battery would help with
wind and solar power, by storing energy and leveling demand. That is true.
But other methods of storing energy on a large scale already exist. One of
the most cost-effecting and reliable ones is pumped hydroelectric storage.
Speaking of synergy with hydroelectric (gravity) which can be added to
wind/solar farms in close proximity, there is what I think is an even
greater potential synergy - since it is not as dependent on proper location.
This goes back to Peter Graneau's proposal presented in Infinite Energy a
Here is a ring island proposal for pumped hydro in the North Sea. This is
basically a large hole in the ocean:
http://www.hydroworld.com/articles/2013/january/belgium-considers-ring-island-energy-storage-scheme.html
- Jed
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Speaking of synergy with hydroelectric (gravity) which can be added to
wind/solar farms in close proximity . . .
In many places. But not, for example, in Texas, where the landscape is
flat. Not a lot of uphill to go to.
They put some wind farms on
From: Jed Rothwell
In many places. But not, for example, in Texas, where the landscape is flat.
Not a lot of uphill to go to.
They put some wind farms on gigantic mesas in Texas, which are up in the air
but still pretty flat. Not a lot of water out there, either.
I expect the
I take it none of you have played the game Myst? There is a tall water
tower that can be connected to a windmill that then pumps water from the
ocean into the tower, and the water can then be redirected to machines that
run directly off the pressure, air compressor style.
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at
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From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:32 am
Subject: [Vo]:Pumped storage hydroelectricity goes well with wind energy
People here have often remarked that an improved battery would help with wind
and solar power
Pumped storage destabilized the spin of the earth. As you raise the
mass from the surface, the rotation of the planet slows.
This could easily cause the moon to be flung from orbit.
(T.I.C.)
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
One big problem with this concept is that there are not many locations
available to place new facilities.
These can be new, man-made facilities, such as a hole in the ocean.
They have a lot of them in Switzerland where they make alpine lakes. It is
On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:01, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
One big problem with this concept is that there are not many locations
available to place new facilities.
I think this has been mentioned here before, but what about diverting the
unneeded power to drive electrolysis and
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this has been mentioned here before, but what about diverting the
unneeded power to drive electrolysis and capture the hydrogen for later use
in a generator that makes use of an internal combustion engine or is sold
on the consumer market?
A
On 2/8/2013 5:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this has been mentioned here before, but what about
diverting the unneeded power to drive electrolysis and capture the
hydrogen for later use in a generator that
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