[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
In the movie Contagion, large public arenas are converted into triage and 
containment facilities.

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Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-10-03 Thread H Veeder
This was written in august before the current case of Ebola in the United
Sates but it compares Ebola to other diseases which spread more easily.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/ebola-worrying-disease

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Far more worrying are diseases that spread exponentially: if one infected
person spreads the disease to two or more on average, the illness spreads
far quicker and is a much more worrying prospect, even if mortality is
considerably lower.

The 800-plus deaths from Ebola in Africa so far this year are indisputably
tragic, but it is important to keep a sense of proportion – other
infectious diseases are far, far deadlier.

Since the Ebola outbreak began in February, around 300,000 people have
died from
malaria http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs094/en/, while
tuberculosis http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs104/en/ has
likely claimed over 600,000 lives. Ebola might have our attention, but it’s
not even close to being the biggest problem in Africa right now. Even Lassa
fever http://www.who.int/csr/disease/lassafever/en/, which shares many of
the terrifying symptoms of Ebola (including bleeding from the eyelids),
kills many more than Ebola – and frequently finds its way to the US
http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0404-lassa-fever.html.

The most real effect for millions of people reading about Ebola will be
fear and stigma. During the Sars outbreak of 2003, Asian-Americans became
the targets of just that, with public health hotlines inundated with calls
from Americans worried about “buying Asian merchandise”, “living near
Asians”, “going to school with Asians”, and more.

In the coming months, almost none of us will catch the Ebola virus. Many of
us, though, will get fevers, headaches, shivers and more.

As planes get grounded, communities are stigmatised, and mildly sick people
fear for their lives, it’s worth reflecting what the biggest threat to our
collective wellbeing is: rare tropical diseases, or our terrible coverage
of them.

Harry

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:25 PM, hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com
wrote:

  In the movie Contagion, large public arenas are converted into triage
 and containment facilities.
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[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season

2014-09-30 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
Because it has the OT header. Limited OT postings with that header are allowed 
because they are easy to filter.  Without the header and embedded in on topic 
threads they annoy.

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From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
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Subject: [Vo]:Off Topic: Flu Season
Date: Tue, Sep 30, 2014 9:53 PM

Why is it that off topic posts like flu season don't get a Vort kicked off 
the list when other off-topic posts like christianity get a vort kicked off?  

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 4:08 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry but since none of the usual policy experts want to touch this with a 
ten-foot poll, it is shaping up to have some features in common with other 
civilization-impacting failures of policy experts with which this list is 
all-too familiar:

Early symptoms of Ebola are flu-like and it is contagious during these 
flu-like symptoms. Now ... consider the fact that flu season is upon us. But 
you know what's _really_ frightening about this? Not one of the goddamn idiot 
authorities has even mentioned, let alone assessed, this confounding 
situation's impact on public health containment measures. 
Now THAT'S frightening!

Read the CDC's guidelines on monitoring and movement of persons with exposure 
and tell me their guidelines work for a country in the throes of massive 
incidence of flu-like symptoms.