Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-18 Thread Alan Fletcher
Uh-oh . ??? http://pesn.com/2012/02/07/9602034_Fund_Drive_for_S._Africa_Trip_to_See_New_Number_1_Free_Energy_Technology/#Follow-up Just says Report pending . . . AND it's no longer in the Top 5 http://peswiki.com/index.php/Top_5_Exotic_Free_Energy_Technologies

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-17 Thread Alan Fletcher
http://pesn.com/2012/02/07/9602034_Fund_Drive_for_S._Africa_Trip_to_See_New_Number_1_Free_Energy_Technology/#Follow-up February 15, 2012; 10:45 pm MST I've been back home a day now. Had a nice Valentines evening with my family. I finished my first draft of a report on my visit prior to landing

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed: Stirling Allen wrote: . . . I walked by a group of younger people milling about outside an establishment (some kind of party). I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and started saying, May I have your attention, please. I would like to tell you about some hope that you have for

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Chemical Engineer
I agree. Freedom of Speech and expression are a great thing. He is just a messenger of potential change. You don't hear much coming from the people of Iran or North Korea these days and that is very unfortunate. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson

RE: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Peter B
that others might be getting to much lime light and your ego just cant stand it . As Clint Eastwood said Go ahead ,(criticise me) Make my day Pete Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:06:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip From: cheme...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Is a woman suppose to feel embarressed for trying to breast feed her baby in a public venue? harry On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Jed: Stirling Allen wrote: . . . I walked by a group of younger people milling about

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-15 Thread Chemical Engineer
Only if the baby is her husband... On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Is a woman suppose to feel embarressed for trying to breast feed her baby in a public venue? harry On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Andre Blum
Amidst all these discussions about credibility of LENR and the different groups working on it, we send out our clown Stirling Allen to investigate. From his report ( http://pesn.com/2012/02/13/9602039_Hope_from_Athens_found_in_Cold_Fusion/): When I went out to grab a bite for dinner

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Peter Gluck
I think we have to focus on what he says about the Company, not who says it. And his report is convergent with other direct information about Defkalion. The season of tests will start soon. Very interesting- it is about High Temperature LENR 450-900 deg Celsius. Peter On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:33

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote: I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and started saying, May I have your attention, please. I would like to tell you about some hope that you have for Athens. Sounds like Mr. Allen came across some of the original ouzo

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread zer tte
Beside sterling adventures, it seems to me it is unusual to announce such a high (450-900) operating temp, isn't rossi actually trying to achieve a stable reaction at such temps ? About the SA device, it seems to be a follow up from the bob boyce hex controller experiment afaik :

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Wolf Fischer
I don't understand the comment about the amount of Hydrogen being consumend by a 5KW unit... Does Defkalion really not know how much Hydrogen it consumes if running at full power for 6 month? About the temperature: I think this is quite interesting as Rossi somewhen stated that his reaction

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Robert
I believe the hydrogen loss they are referring to is centered about hydrogen containment, not hydrogen consumption. As for Rossi's 60°C reaction point, that was the temperature of his surrounding water during the EK testing. At around 60°C water temp, the slope of temperature gradient changed;

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Wolf Fischer
Thank you for the clarification! Wolf I believe the hydrogen loss they are referring to is centered about hydrogen containment, not hydrogen consumption. As for Rossi's 60°C reaction point, that was the temperature of his surrounding water during the EK testing. At around 60°C water temp,

RE: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Terry sez: Sounds like Mr. Allen came across some of the original ouzo flavored with poppy pods. :) Allen is an evangelist of a different cloth! ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Jones Beene
From: Andre Blum * * Amidst all these discussions about credibility of LENR and the different groups working on it, we send out our clown Sterling Allan to investigate)... I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and started saying, May I have your attention, please... Humm... kinda fits

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread ecat builder
Anyone have any links to the South African FFG (Fuel Free Generator) company? Company web site or address? Additional pictures/video of the device? Retracted PDF's? Device size or specs? Trying not to drink the Kool-Aid, but anything that can produce 4000 watts of continuous electricity would

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread zer tte
From what i've read so far, there is no website, no pictures, no PDF's, no specs whatsoever (except some 5kw claim perhaps), the only thing we've got is sterling unpublished report... Anyone have any links to the South African FFG (Fuel Free Generator)

RE: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
. Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:18:54 -0800 From: c_foreig...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip To: vortex-l@eskimo.com From what i've read so far, there is no website, no pictures, no PDF's, no specs whatsoever (except some 5kw claim perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Damn! HE IS TOTALLY INSANE I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING HAHAHAHAHA! :D 2012/2/14 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl Amidst all these discussions about credibility of LENR and the different groups working on it, we send out our clown Stirling Allen to investigate. From his report (

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Daniel Damn! HE  IS TOTALLY  INSANE  I CANNOT  STOP  LAUGHING HAHAHAHAHA! :D Sterling is simply behaving like an evangelist of a different cloth. All evangelists want to spread the good news. Some more obnoxiously that others. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Given the situation there, it is something of extremely bad taste... so bad it's funny... 2012/2/14 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com From Daniel Damn! HE IS TOTALLY INSANE I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING HAHAHAHAHA! :D Sterling is simply behaving like

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Vorl Bek
From Daniel Damn! HE  IS TOTALLY  INSANE  I CANNOT  STOP  LAUGHING HAHAHAHAHA! :D Sterling is simply behaving like an evangelist of a different cloth. All evangelists want to spread the good news. Some more obnoxiously that others. ;-) Did Sterling speak in Greek (or

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stirling Allen wrote: . . . I walked by a group of younger people milling about outside an establishment (some kind of party). I pulled up a chair, stood on it, and started saying, May I have your attention, please. I would like to tell you about some hope that you have for Athens. But

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-14 Thread David Roberson
I sincerely hope he was just kidding. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 6:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip Stirling Allen wrote: . . . I walked

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-13 Thread Jouni Valkonen
There is new update written during the flight to Athens. Sterling seems to be very much impressed, and he also received the 5 kW free energy device for free. There should come a full story in few days. And indeed this is Sterling's new number one energy technology and it surpasses Rossi by a

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
On the surface it certainly sounds promising. I'm glad Sterling secured sufficient funds that allowed him to go evaluate Sam's device. I'm also glad Sterling is going to stop off and visit Defkalion as well. I'm still going on the assumption that Sam's device will eventually fail to pass the

RE: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jouni Valkonen * Sterling seems to be very much impressed, and he also received the 5 kW free energy device for free. There should come a full story in few days. And indeed this is Sterling's new number one energy technology and it surpasses Rossi by a margin. If it works, then how

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-13 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
  Von:Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 18:03 Montag, 13.Februar 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip ... IOW - the battery, which is an electrochemical cell, not unlike the ones used

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Guenter, ... As has been mentioned by some before , it is about a careful balance between (pathological) skepticism and weakminded wishful thinking. Agreed. I would however replace the term weakminded with indiscriminate. Sounds more descriptive to me. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-13 Thread ecat builder
Wow. I find it pretty interesting that Sterling is saying he is convinced of this technology. I'm also hopeful that he can indeed bring a unit home with him... and get off the NDA. Stirling Allen is in Greece now and has seen Defkalion's final test setup... in operation and producing heat.

Fwd: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-12 Thread Alan Fletcher
http://pesn.com/2012/02/07/9602034_Fund_Drive_for_S._Africa_Trip_to_See_New_Number_1_Free_Energy_Technology/#Follow-up February 10, 2012; 11:56 pm Johannesburg I'm finally here. They've put me up in a gorgeous, small hotel. Posh digs. Sam and his son, Hussein picked me up from the airport, and

[Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

2012-02-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Fund Drive for S. Africa Trip to See New #1 Free Energy Technology http://pesn.com/2012/02/07/9602034_Fund_Drive_for_S._Africa_Trip_to_See_New_Number_1_Free_Energy_Technology/ A week ago today, I found an email in my inbox that had been sent to me on November 28 that I had overlooked. It was