[Vo]:transmutations via 35 Kev electric arcs in H2 gas in 1951 by Ernest J. Sternglass, 1997 book: Lewis Larsen: Rich Murray 2013.07.28

2013-07-28 Thread Rich Murray
transmutations via 35 Kev electric arcs in H2 gas in 1951 by Ernest J.
Sternglass, 1997 book: Lewis Larsen: Rich Murray 2013.07.28

...old brass X-Ray tube...

[Vo]:Einstein and Bethe were involved in Lenr experiment !!!

David Ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com via eskimo.com
2:07 PM (6 hours ago)  2013.07.28

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Written by Lewis Larsen

Lewis Larsen
President and CEO
Lattice Energy LLC
Chicago, IL USA
1-312-861-0115

November 25, 2011

Copyright 2011 Lattice Energy LLC All rights reserved Page 1

Subject: were LENRs observed in the early 1950s? Einstein and Bethe got
involved in this saga

Dear Readers:

You may really enjoy reading this amazing tale of a brilliant
LENR-related experimental discovery back in
1951 --- followed by its descent into total obscurity. Simply lost and
forgotten by mainstream physics.

In the history of science, it seems that experimental results that
don't somehow fit within some sort of
contemporary conceptual paradigm often tend to get ignored. Sadly, in
many cases such results are
never reported anywhere in peer-reviewed journals for posterity. In
that regard, this cover note is
combined with scanned page images from Chapter 6 in Dr. Ernest
Sternglass' little 1997 book, Before
the Big Bang - the Origin of the Universe.

The excerpted page scans from the above book chapter are those in
which Dr. Sternglass describes
some enigmatic experiments that he conducted in the Cornell University
physics department back in the
early 1950s.It recounts his work with an old hydrogen-filled X-ray
tube, as well as a subsequent dialogue
with Albert Einstein in attempting to understand the (then) utterly
inexplicable experimental results.

Seven years ago, Sternglass, then in his late 80s, told me over the
telephone that (before he had
communicated with Einstein about his strange results) the legendary
Hans Bethe had looked over his
experimental data and was totally baffled too. Nobody at Cornell
understood what was happening in the
experimental setup that could possibly produce the observed fluxes of
neutrons (obviously, ultra low
momentum neutrons were not produced in his experiments --- they were
more akin to what happens in
high-current exploding wires as opposed to what happens in typical PF
aqueous electrolytic cells). So, a
baffled Bethe called Einstein on the telephone and asked him to help
PhD candidate Sternglass evaluate
his unexpected experimental results. The attached chapter taken from
Sternglass' book relates that story.

What is truly mind boggling about this tale is that Einstein simply
looked at Sternglass' data and then
immediately realized that the observed neutron production must involve
some sort of many-body
collective effects with electrons (which we utilize with great
explanatory power in our theory of LENRs).
Can you believe it --- what a mind Einstein had  even at that late
stage in his life!  At that point (1951),
very few physicists really had any idea of what collective effects
were about. Well, Einstein surely did.

Unfortunately, Ernest's bizarre experimental discovery was simply not
pursued any further. In the end,
Sternglass didn't heed Einstein's (and Bethe's) strong advice to be
stubborn and publish the deeply
anomalous results. Sternglass' experiments were subsequently lost and
largely forgotten by other
physicists in the ensuing years, just like the work of chemists Wendt
and Irion at the University of Chicago
back in 1922 and other related transmutation work published in
refereed journals circa 1900 - 1927.

Einstein, the only contemporary scientist who had any real inkling of
what might be happening in
Sternglass' puzzling experiments, died just four years after his
interaction with Sternglass on the
unexplained neutron fluxes.

The only surviving document wherein these intriguing experimental
results were ever mentioned was
Sternglass' little book published many years later in 1997. In 2006, I
stumbled across a copy of it in the
$2.99 discount section at Border's bookstore and, curious, just for
kicks picked it up to read over the
weekend. After reading an amazing chapter (see scanned pages), I
immediately called my theoretical
collaborators and said, You guys won't believe what I just found.
They were equally amazed.

We plan to specifically discuss and explain the 1951
Sternglass/Bethe/Einstein saga in an upcoming
paper; it appears that this experimental anomaly is just another
aspect of LENRs. Perhaps now, after
remaining in obscurity for 60 years, there can finally be some
conceptual closure on Sternglass' long-lost,
unpublished experimental results.

Full article [ original page images from the book ]
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/slides/2025LatticeEnergyDoc.pdf



Jones Beene
5:55 PM (2 hours ago) 2013.07.28

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http://www.scientificethics.org/NeutronSynthesisNCA-I.pdf

A first series of measurements were initiated with Klystron I on July 28,
2006, at 2 p.m.

The test was repeated the afternoon of August 4, 

[Vo]:Transmutations

2012-11-09 Thread Brad Lowe
I have lost track of all of the claims of LENR and transmutations.. Are
there known reproducible LENR experiments that shows real evidence of a
nuclear transmutation? Trying to detect radiation above background, excess
heat, etc. is clearly difficult.. But turning an element in LENR fuel into
new element(s) would demand attention.

Piantelli shows the nuclear process in his patent as does Rossi.. but any
real evidence?

After two years of following LENR, do we really have no hard evidence that
fusion or fision is happening? Is it because XRD or Mass Spectrum is too
expensive, or because of impurities in most fuels?

I know George Egely has said he has done XRD on samples before and after in
his carbon in a microwave plasma fusion... but no replication, as far as
I know...

- Brad


Re: [Vo]:Transmutations

2012-11-09 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Heh. It's 23 years for some of the old timers on this alias (not me).

I'm particularly fond of this older transmutation paper:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Castellanonucleartra.pdf

There are various reasons to criticize the paper (only EDX was used for
analysis, other complaints) but I like it because it is simple, direct,
limited in scope, and because they describe pretty good technique with
respect to controlling contaminants.

Other very interesting transmutation results are Iwamura's:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatioa.pdf
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYlowenergyn.pdf
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatioc.pdf

etc.

I'm unsure what to think about the carbon arc stuff. It takes tremendous
procedural care to eliminate contaminants. A complete experiment would
involve procuring ultra pure carbon from a chemical supply house, doing an
assay of a fraction (control sample) with at least three analytical
techniques (e.g. EDX, XRD, mass spec), performing the experiment under
near-clean-room conditions using materials that are distinct from
anticipated transmutation products, capturing the detritus in similarly
distinct materials, and running the same three analytical techniques on the
detritus, preferably with the same three instruments. It's a big
undertaking.

Jeff



On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have lost track of all of the claims of LENR and transmutations.. Are
 there known reproducible LENR experiments that shows real evidence of a
 nuclear transmutation? Trying to detect radiation above background, excess
 heat, etc. is clearly difficult.. But turning an element in LENR fuel into
 new element(s) would demand attention.

 Piantelli shows the nuclear process in his patent as does Rossi.. but any
 real evidence?

 After two years of following LENR, do we really have no hard evidence that
 fusion or fision is happening? Is it because XRD or Mass Spectrum is too
 expensive, or because of impurities in most fuels?

 I know George Egely has said he has done XRD on samples before and after
 in his carbon in a microwave plasma fusion... but no replication, as far
 as I know...

 - Brad