RE: [Vo]:wow I think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-17 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder I suspect there is something important missing from this account. What prompted Moller to look at Langmuir's work in the firstplace? The impetus was that Moller, who is Danish, found and read private letters from Bohr (the great Dane)

Re: [Vo]:wow I think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder I suspect there is something important missing from this account. What prompted Moller to look at Langmuir's work in the firstplace? The impetus was that

[Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread David ledin
wow today i find a website that was totally mind blowing. this website is about replication Nicholas Moller 's Atomic Hydrogen Generator based on Irving Langmuir discovery. (nobel prize winner in chemistry 1932) replicator don't called this cold fusion or lenr device but you can see this device

Re: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread David ledin
One hour tests with a COP of 21 http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/tests/mahg2c.htm Full tests http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/tests/index.htm On 12/16/12, David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote: wow today i find a website that was totally mind blowing. this website is about replication

RE: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Jones Beene
Original Message- From: David ledin wow today i find a website that was totally mind blowing. this website is about replication Nicholas Moller 's Atomic Hydrogen Generator based on Irving Langmuir discovery JL Naudin replicator achieved COP of 21 with this device (power input of

Re: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:13 AM, David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com wrote: this website is about replication Nicholas Moller 's Atomic Hydrogen Generator based on Irving Langmuir discovery. Although your premise regarding JLN has been explained here as Jones said:

Re: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Another has written about problems with the Naudin replication. I haven't checked that out, but, yes, if you believe everything you read on the Internet, and don't check it, your mind can be blown. Rather easily, since it's held together with chewing gum and a bit of duct tape. Seriously, I

RE: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: Very silly error by Naudin (discovered up by George Holz on the MAGH forum) in that JLN was using a 5% duty cycle and calculated the gain by reducing the input readings - instead of measuring them directly. Naudin's error was a multiple of 20

RE: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: There are other Naudin sites which suffer the same problem. An inability to admit personal error is fatal for anyone involved with scientific investigation. A real scientist, discovering a significant error in published work, will *immediately*

RE: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: There are other Naudin sites which suffer the same problem. Jones I see that Sterling Allen's page on the MHG project by Naudin never benefited from an explanation of the input power error. It's got some enthusiastic posts from you. Maybe you'd

Re: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: There are other Naudin sites which suffer the same problem. Jones I see that Sterling Allen's page on the MHG project by Naudin never benefited from an explanation