Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Chris Zell
Everytime the subject of zero point energy comes up, I wanna ask, where's the 'drain', the 'cold side',  the 'pressure release'?   At the bottom of the ocean,  you have tons of pressure per square inch but what good is that?  You need an area of reduced pressure to get a flow going.  Likewise,

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work. Is possible? If so, is it OU? Terry On Mon, Dec 14,

RE: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Jones Beene
Terry: As most every vortician appreciates, it is not OU if you can only do it one time. Even a few hundred times is not enough if it is say: a magmo that spins down more slowly than expected. Continuing to add ballast at the top eats up all the gain - unless the ballast is itself a phase of water

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work. Is

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work. Is

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work.

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12/14/2009 12:45 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Oh, dear. I intuitively believed what you have proved. Hope the company is okay still. Terry On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: (at length)

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Electrolyte included! Terry On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock.  The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks

RE: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Jones Beene
Whoa, speaking of strange coincidence ... and ... electrolytes ... and ... err ... PEE Power ;-) ya gotta follow some of this thread on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITerHqq6XPU -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Electrolyte included! Terry Horace Heffner wrote: Take

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: The following is in regards to the bubble lift idea at: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/SLVN.pdf The density of water is 1000 kg/m^3. The pressure of 1 atmosphere is about 10,000 kgf/m^2. At a depth of x meters, the weight of water above