Re: [Vo]: Orbo power packs

2016-02-16 Thread Vibrator !
A potential 2LoT violation would also seem fairly consistent - McCarthy's mentioned the similarity to a piezo effect, and we can presume that the entropy change between charged and discharged states involves similar phonon exchanges per the magnetcaloric effect. Plus a piezo effect implies a

Re: [Vo]: Orbo power packs

2016-02-16 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Vibrator ! wrote: So while i've considered interpretations that would invoke free electrons > from nowhere, i think free EMF of some kind is the more consistent > likelihood. If surplus electrons would explain the anomaly, another

RE: [Vo]: Orbo power packs

2016-02-16 Thread Jones Beene
From: Vibrator Ø My expectation is that they're applying anomolous voltage, since all previous versions of Orbo depended upon tricking magnetic force into performing free work, and they're claiming that the current tech works in fundamentally the same way. Does anyone recall hearing

Re: [Vo]: Orbo power packs

2016-02-16 Thread Vibrator !
My expectation is that they're applying anomolous voltage, since all previous versions of Orbo depended upon tricking magnetic force into performing free work, and they're claiming that the current tech works in fundamentally the same way. I've had no contact with them since the SKDB closed, but

Re: [Vo]: Orbo power packs

2016-02-15 Thread Bob Higgins
I read through the Burgener patent and must admit that I don't quite get where he is saying that he gets the anomalous power and how much he gets. The described ferroelectric materials he lists are all ceramics. Most of these are both piezoelectric and pyroelectric. He calls for specific donor

RE: [Vo]: Orbo power packs

2016-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, Do you have any comment on the Burgener patent in the context of Orbo? There are anomalies in circuits which seem to turn up whenever batteries, supercaps and electrets are combined. This is a lure, and Steorn bit - but no one has pulled it off before in a long term device. I have a

Re: [Vo]: Orbo power packs

2016-02-15 Thread H LV
All I want is a clock that I never need to wind. At this stage I think Steorn is overreaching by trying to make and sell a self-charging cell phone. Harry On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: > It appears from the Steorn video description pointed to by