Cut Cut... my statement below was intervened upon by 'someone' who can
operate from within my feeble intelligence process, w/o my knowledge. Two
words, 'only' and 'navigated' were somehow kept from being typed in the last
sentence, and have now been re-included.
This is what I said
Antigravity can 'only' have what might be considered an on-board
application, and so, anyone who has either a vested-interest, or money, or
great faith
in it, simply doesn't know about the enormous potential of the yet
undiscovered system, that can have no equal.
This is what I said to NASA about 3 years ago. I also mentioned that the
rotor they had gotten to spin at a sustained 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's) back
in ' 2001 (?), was absolutely essential in-order to achieve the Independent
State of Energy/Propusion in what I am convinced is the one system
of energy would require this to happen in my
opinion. Has this issue been covered before in the collective?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: LORENHEYER lorenhe...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep
it is
interpreted.
-Original Message-
From: LORENHEYER lorenhe...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
This is what I said to NASA about 3 years ago. I also mentioned that the
rotor
Considering the never-ending conundrum of whether we are alone I came up
with the following 500 word short story. I submitted it to a local science
fiction community for a writing contest. While the story didn't win any
prizes it was one of the finalists.
I suspect Stephen Hawking might find
I don't know, but the first beeping signals have now reached 12,500 stars.
The fact of the matter is any civilizations out there able to receive our
signal should have been transmitting at least 100 years ago and we should
already have detected them. It appears that we are unique.Many are
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
I don't know, but the first beeping signals have now reached 12,500 stars.
The fact of the matter is any civilizations out there able to receive our
signal should have been
Ion-propulsion is highly inefficient, but because it produces only a
limited amount of power, the equivalence of a piece of paper resting on your
hand
(please, whatever you do don't sneeze), it has a limited use. Now,
Antigravity is believed to have great potential, especially because
Ion-propulsion is highly inefficient, but because it produces
only a limited amount of power, the equivalence of a piece of
paper resting on your hand (please, whatever you do don't
vast snip
I have to killfile this guy. I guess he is trying to write in
html, but it comes across as a
It's almost absurd to even think about waiting around for an answer,
especially if our signals are being disabled,,, and (believe it or not) I think
there may be a likely good reason for this. SO, what if we got an answer...
what do we do then? Should we ask them if they have more advanced
Some people can't deal with certain matters, and will quickly change the
subject. By finding fault with words (which obviously give you immense
comfort), rather than the matter at hand, I can only must conclude that you
simply aren't meant to learn or 'know' certain things,,, so, please go
Believe it or not, but this just might be a sort-of mandatory-step from
which a whole new society emerges and starts a'new. times, they are a
changin!
Let's just hope that it is not typical for an advanced civilization to
end itself with super weapons once it reaches a certain point
As Jed has said we are now going radio silent. Many of the highest power
shortwave stations such as Deutsche Wella have gone off of the air. They have
been replaced with very lower power cellphone like gigahertz transmitters from
local and satellite transmitters.In PA I pick up only one
the important discoveries and
things we totally understand are at the level of our current technology.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Earth radio silent? By no means. There are literally thousands of
narrow-beam threads of RF energy directed at space satellites which
reach far beyond their intended listeners. And when we went to DTV,
the amount of effective radiated power from broadcast stations
exploded.
We radiate more RF
At 10:18 AM 2/20/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Advanced civilizations may not use RF communications. Or the signal
may be so compressed it looks like noise. However, they will
recognize it when they detect it. If they use radio telescopes they
will probably realize they have intercepted a signal
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Jef Poskanzer pointed out a few years ago that spread-spectrum encrypted
radio traffic would be indistinguishable from white noise.
That's not entirely accurate.
T
I guess you missed the whole thing about Podkletnov. Its kind of died down
right now but there may be things going on behind the seens with this.
The thought of antigravity devices coming soon is tantalizing. Do you suspect
that we are just one discovery short of achieving that goal? Or
-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher
Jef Poskanzer pointed out a few years ago that spread-spectrum
encrypted radio traffic would be indistinguishable from white noise.
Isn't there always a preset packet size? That alone would provide regular
gaps in the rate of transmission, it
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher
Jef Poskanzer pointed out a few years ago that spread-spectrum
encrypted radio traffic would be indistinguishable from white noise.
Isn't there always a preset packet
On 02/20/2012 10:32 PM, zer tte wrote:
Well if they use some kind of quantum entanglement transmission, how
could we eavesdrop on them ?
So far our RF cone extends 100 light years behind us ( 0
Quite a catch for a random alien in our galaxy to be at the receiving
end, anyway if by chance
Subject: RE: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
-Original Message-
rom: Alan J Fletcher
Jef Poskanzer pointed out a few years ago that spread-spectrum
ncrypted radio traffic would be indistinguishable from white noise.
Isn't there always a preset packet size? That alone would
Uhh... they're currently up in space, as in numerous vehicle/craft, that
are utilizing an altogether highly developed new form of sophisticated
energy-field, that is tapped into all mass-matter/energy, and/or the earth's
gravity magnetosphere.
I am trying to write in globs, because I know they're somewhat
unreadable, but that just makes it that much more difficult to know what I'm
talking
about. And please, in the future, try not to use the word 'kill' ,,, its
too harsh. I also have this dinosaur of a computer, plus, I'm mostly
On 02/21/2012 07:01 PM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote:
Uhh... they're currently up in space, as in numerous vehicle/craft, that
are utilizing an altogether highly developed new form of sophisticated
energy-field, that is tapped into all mass-matter/energy, and/or the earth's
gravity magnetosphere.
of this than the next guy but I leave the probability open for future
advances since I have seen many during my lifetime.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep
2012/2/21 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com:
I think that Radio signals are irrelevant, because alien civilisations did
detect us back in 6000 years ago when we started agriculture and destroyed
forests to the crops in larger scale due to urbanisation.
I think what they detected that
-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
2012/2/21 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com:
I think that Radio signals are irrelevant, because alien civilisations did
detect us back in 6000 years ago when we started
On 02/20/2012 11:51 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
One hundred years ago in 1912 a new type of 5 KW wireless
was introduced. It had a spinning wheel with arcing contacts that
broke the sparking RF circuit up into audio pulses. It modulated the
AM band radio frequency signal.
The system
2012 13:37:06 -0400
From: andre_vor...@blums.nl
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
On 02/20/2012 11:51 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
One hundred years ago in 1912 a new type of 5 KW wireless was introduced. It
had a spinning wheel with arcing
My suspicion is that our use of radio for communication would be considered
extremely ancient to any civilizations that may be monitoring us. The changes
in carrier modulation that have occurred just within the last 50 years has been
astounding.
Any relatively nearby civilization(100 light
Advanced civilizations may not use RF communications. Or the signal may be
so compressed it looks like noise. However, they will recognize it when
they detect it. If they use radio telescopes they will probably realize
they have intercepted a signal from a civilization, and not a natural
signal.
:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
It is very highly likely that advanced civilizations have times long-past
bsoleted the mode of technology and/or means of transmitting receiving
nformation. More than likely there are countless signals from civilizations
ike
pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
EARTHLINGS:
I'VE BEEN GETTING ALL KINDS OF BEEPING, STATIC ASKING IF I REALLY EXIST! THIS
IS FOOLERY. ASK ANY REAL SCIENTIST IN THE GALAXY (NOT THOSE
SNAKE-HEADED-ASTRONOMERS OF EARTH). THERE IS NO QUESTION BUT WE EXIST. I NO
LONGER
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Advanced civilizations may not use RF communications. Or the signal may be
so compressed it looks like noise.
Our cell phones already do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_division_multiple_access
T
This is a bit off topic to the thread (ok, way off), but speaking of
advanced civilizations on earth which we did not know about till very
recently, this one is a full 6000 years ahead of what we thought was the
first advanced ones (i.e. the Fertile Crescent or Egypt). Look at the
detail in the
20, 2012 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
It is very highly likely that advanced civilizations have times long-past
obsoleted the mode of technology and/or means of transmitting receiving
information. More than likely there are countless signals from
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
This is a bit off topic to the thread (ok, way off), but speaking of
advanced civilizations on earth which we did not know about till very
recently, this one is a full 6000 years ahead of what we thought was the
first
Jones sez:
This is a bit off topic to the thread (ok, way off)...
... and as you well know that has never stopped the Vort Collective
from engaging in a good debate! ;-)
The following might be of interest to some here:
Michael Cremo Forbidden Archeology
http://www.mcremo.com/
Here's some additional photos to wet the imagination!
http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/
Excerpt:
A metallic sphere from South Africa with three parallel grooves
around its equator (photo courtesy of Roelf Marx). The sphere was
found in a Precambrian mineral deposit, said to be 2.8 billion
Orionworks sez:
Here's some additional photos to wet the imagination!
http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/
Excerpt:
A metallic sphere from South Africa with three parallel grooves
around its equator (photo courtesy of Roelf Marx). The sphere was
found in a Precambrian mineral deposit,
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's Wikipedia's entry on the spheres:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klerksdorp_sphere
OOPAs!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact
from Oompa Loompa!
T
Terry sez:
Here's Wikipedia's entry on the spheres:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klerksdorp_sphere
OOPAs!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact
from Oompa Loompa!
Oompartifacts ... or perhaps Loompartifacts.
Actually, the latter sounds like the name of an Italian
Here is the story of the first modulated radio signals 100 years ago.
http://marconigraph.com/titanic/wireless/mgy_wireless.html
Before that the emission spectrum of the spark transmitter what that of
lightning and was dwarfed at interstellar distances by natural sources. After
the
Well if they use some kind of quantum entanglement transmission, how could we
eavesdrop on them ?
So far our RF cone extends 100 light years behind us ( 0
Quite a catch for a random alien in our galaxy to be at the receiving end,
anyway if by chance some random alien picked up our signal
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