Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-11 Thread Che
No wonder people despair -- when they don't just smirk, knowingly -- at the world of Over-Unity research. I have also long-time despaired at the general political naivete exhibited in fora like vortex-L. Engineering and physics knowledge is not nearly enough to see these sorts of efforts through

RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-07 Thread Roarty, Francis X
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint That is a very straight legal case Rossi reveals that points to the failure of IH to honor its contract. Rossi is clearly going to win this unless IH pays up the $89 million. Rossi is in the catbird seat as he is being

RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-07 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Wow! I would hope Rossi’s lawyer has actual evidence for these claims, if so Rossi may be short cutting their play and force an amicable settlement in everyone’s best interest. [snip]Among other things, DARDEN, VAUGHN, IH and IPH have (a) disclosed the ECat IP to LEONARDO's competitors; (b)

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
"I think that Rossi feels that he has been deeply wronged in the past and for some reason I.H. is/was trying to string him along on the payment of the 89 million dollars owed him and he wasn't going to wait for any excuses and filed as soon as he felt he might never see the money/profit he feels

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Robert Dorr
I think that Rossi feels that he has been deeply wronged in the past and for some reason I.H. is/was trying to string him along on the payment of the 89 million dollars owed him and he wasn't going to wait for any excuses and filed as soon as he felt he might never see the money/profit he

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Eric Walker wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > Obviously, this all gets down to the data, in the end. Are there 2000 >> hours of reliable data for power out vs. power in ? If so, then this will

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Well, I was coming from the strong expectation that the report wasn't going to show anything at all. Though - from the perspective of the damage this can do to LENR in general ,yeah, this could be very bad. On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Eric Walker wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6,

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: > It’s ridiculous to suggest that the people who wrote that very clean and > clear set of legal claims are fools, that they don’t know the ropes, and > have not done their homework with the data with competent help. > Regarding the technical claims,

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Obviously, this all gets down to the data, in the end. Are there 2000 hours > of reliable data for power out vs. power in ? If so, then this will > probably never go to trial – the Court will appoint an expert and the >

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
10) If there is solid data over thousands of hours which backs Rossi’s and Penon’s claim and the COP is much less – say 1.5 then it will be a tough call but Rossi could win. I got the sense that 6x COP was required for the payout

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: I am actually hopeful. 50x is pretty high. It was installed in a customer > site. That's some crazy attempt at fraud. I have a bad feeling about the lawsuit. It does not make me any more confident in Rossi's

RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell http://www.e-catworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Leonardosuit01-main.pdf As a general rule in Lawsuits, when the answer to a particular complaint arrives, the reader will be shocked that the two parties are talking about the same set of facts. The next round of this

RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Russ George
/ From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:57 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: That is a very straight lega

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
More here: http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
anyways, let's wait for the rebuttal. there are a lot missing exhibits in the filing, like the ERV report, Darden's agreement to commence the test, etc. Maybe the ERV report will 'leak out' and experts will be able to poke holes for Darden.

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here are some more court papers: http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Rossi_et_al_v_Darden_et_al__flsdce-16-21199__0001.2.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I am actually hopeful. 50x is pretty high. It was installed in a customer site. That's some crazy attempt at fraud. Maybe 71 is stated wrong, and it only surged to 50x.But if not, 50x over the lifetime.. that's impressive an Rossi should get his due. On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Jed

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: That is a very straight legal case Rossi reveals that points to the failure > of IH to honor its contract. Rossi is clearly going to win this unless IH > pays up the $89 million. > Only if: 1. Rossi has not misrepresented the contracts; and 2. Penon's

Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
lol. On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Russ George wrote: > That is a very straight legal case Rossi reveals that points to the > failure of IH to honor its contract. Rossi is clearly going to win this > unless IH pays up the $89 million. Rossi is in the catbird seat as he is

RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

2016-04-06 Thread Russ George
That is a very straight legal case Rossi reveals that points to the failure of IH to honor its contract. Rossi is clearly going to win this unless IH pays up the $89 million. Rossi is in the catbird seat as he is being seen to enforce his IP and license agreements which is a vital task under IP