Fran and Robin,
I think it is important to keep in mind the fact that the Casimir
force equations become meaningless when atoms approach at close rage.
Near field effects overwhelm photonic effects, like black body
radiation, and joint entangled quantum wave forms become
significant.
On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Frank Roarty wrote:
Horace, you have succeeded in steering me away from using the
DiFiore et all
proposals for anything other than demonstrating the break in
isotropy. In
re-reading their paper it appears they are trying to quantify the
opposing
net
Some corrected text of mine from prior post.
The force between two neutral conductive plates (ideally conducting
and zero temperature) of area A with separation z is given by:
F(z,A) = -(Pi^2 h_bar c A)/(240 z^4)
The force Fs(z,R) between a sphere of radius R and plate at distance
z
Something to consider with regards to Casimir cavities and any
proposed ionizing or other effects requiring energy greater than the
ionizing energy for the atoms making up the cavity. If such ionizing
effects existed with the cavity, then they would ionize the atoms
forming the cavity.
Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:46 PM
To: Vortex-L
Subject: Re: [Vo]:megalith levitation
Something to consider with regards to Casimir cavities and any
proposed ionizing or other effects requiring energy greater than the
ionizing energy for the atoms
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:45:48 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
This then is the force between spheres. Casimir plates are made of
atoms. It would be astounding to make casimir plates out of hydino
matter. Maybe possible, but difficult in the extreme.
..perhaps not all
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:45:48 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
It is technically very difficult to obtain plate spacings of less
than a micron.
[snip]
Normal solids already have crystal lattice spacing on the order of Angstroms.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:40 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:45:48
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
This then is the force between spheres. Casimir plates are made of
atoms. It would be astounding to make casimir plates out of hydino
matter. Maybe
On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:41 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:45:48
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
It is technically very difficult to obtain plate spacings of less
than a micron.
[snip]
Normal solids already have crystal lattice spacing on the order
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:46:23 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:41 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:45:48
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
It is technically very difficult to obtain plate spacings of less
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:45:42 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
..perhaps not all that difficult. Consider the situation where
Hydrino molecules
condense into a liquid then freeze into a solid. That solid would
have very
close crystal planes.
Just a few minor
flux and we can't have one without the other.
Regards
Fran
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From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:megalith levitation
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 7 Oct
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:megalith levitation
On Oct 3, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Frank wrote:
The spatial confinement combined with the equivalence boundary
suggests the 10E-14 newtons of acceleration calculated by DiFiore
et all is
a vector wholly on the time axis -no trig portions of the spatial
-
From: Mauro Lacy [mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:01 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:megalith levitation
Hi Frank
I pretty much understand what you're trying to do. And I'm trying to
show you that it's absurd. You're trying to use descriptive geometrical
' center in either direction it will turn its' profile to us and appear
smaller and faster for up-conversion or down conversion.
Regards
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Mauro Lacy [mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 8:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo
On Oct 3, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Frank wrote:
The spatial confinement combined with the equivalence boundary
suggests the 10E-14 newtons of acceleration calculated by DiFiore
et all is
a vector wholly on the time axis -no trig portions of the spatial
axis, the
force was ignored as
).
this would mean the ether passes through the cavity slower than around it.
OK, so now I've said the E word!
Best Regards
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 5:23 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo
and appear
smaller and faster for up-conversion or down conversion.
Regards
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Mauro Lacy [mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 8:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:megalith levitation
It will be much better (and clear) to talk about
Hi Frank
Time does not exist at the physical level. So, you have no right in
physics to talk about time dimensions. You can do it, of course, and
even model it mathematically, but your theory will make no physical sense.
This was discussed to a certain extent in the past here on vortex.
Search
Mauro,
I reviewed some of Zitter and ZPE -If I implied that time had
spatial dimension then yes I was wrong. That would imply that something
could move in the temporal direction and would no longer occupy the same
spatial position which is untrue. IMHO temporal displacement would only
It will be much better (and clear) to talk about (radial) changes of
velocity (accelerations). There's no need also to talk about Lorentz
contraction, because that arises between reference frames, and is a
consequence(if I understand it correctly), of our suppositions regarding
the nature of
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