[Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Hi group, I'm excited to announce our newly formed non-profit organization to the advancement of cold fusion. We are planning an open catalyst project geared towards finding the secret catalyst needed to achieve nuclear fusion in the solid state. The plan is to use the power of the crowd to searc

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > Joshua wrote: > > “… And a top academic career would be a chair at a university or director > of a research institute.” > > ** ** > > Well, Josh, by your own definition, Dr. Robert Duncan, Vice Chanc

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Very interesting! I suggest to add an option for a simple neutron counter. Specially good for cluster of reactors, but also for home users: you do not want them to be irradiated. mic 2011/12/20 Bastiaan Bergman : > Hi group, > > I'm excited to announce our newly formed non-profit organization

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

very interesting On 12/20/11, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: > Hi group, > > I'm excited to announce our newly formed non-profit organization to > the advancement of cold fusion. > > We are planning an open catalyst project geared towards finding the > secret catalyst needed to achieve nuclear fusion in

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: I didn't invent the name. It was called the "Fleischmann-Pons Effect" for years. Google it. All I'm suggesting is that we should honour the effect they discovered with their names, even if we don't know how and why it happens. No point

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Christ man high school students replicated P&F with both excess heat and > transmutations, in a MIT lab and in front of over 100 ICCF 10 attendees? This reminded me of a Dilbert cartoon (since you seem interested in comic relief): http:

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Potentially a good idea for a non-profit, especially if donations can drive the price down well below cost. That said, where is the calorimeter? Also, the device looks too small. This looks more like a Rossi replicator idea than a general purpose LENR investigation device. That seems a bit

Re: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com

In fhen formula when he says "same careful techniques" he means you must load NI+Fe+Mg with hydrogen again this cause Mg became MgH2, so you don't need external hydrogen for reaction and Fe in reaction cause H2 break apart into H1, paving the way for reaction. If you read chan formula you can und

Re: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com

Things to consider: 1/ Probably want to make sure that the hydrogen you are being supplied is a reasonably high purity 'technical' grade. 2/ Most researchers use multi-stage vacuum pumps to achieve high vacuum, you probably want to buy a 2-stage vacuum pump such as used by HVAC technicians (you nee

RE: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Initially, I found myself speculating that DGT's seeming reluctance to "invite" Stremmenos to their labs would seem to imply that if he did come and observe what they have in-house Stremmenos might uncover strong evidence to the effect that reverse engineering of Rossi's eCat design had occurred.

[Vo]:bad news for the universities

Andrea Rossi dixit: December 20th, 2011 at 6:26 AM Dear Enrico Billi: Anyway, I want again to confirm that we have understood perfectly the teory . Warm Regards (lavolale, lavolale!) A.R. Theory understood perfectly, practic

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Horace Heffner wrote: > > This looks more like a Rossi replicator idea than a general purpose LENR > investigation device. That seems a bit premature, given the publicly > released evidence provided by Rossi thus far is so lacking scientifically. More to the point, we do not know what Rossi's

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

I think people coming from a country with a relatively normal history re not able to understand well the behaviour of people coming from a country that was once a dictature- as Greece (or Romania.) Stremmenos and the leaders of DGT have been comrades in fighting against the military regime- and suc

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > > So, this begs the > question: why doesn't Stremmenos go to DGT's labs and take a look around. I > take it he could do just that anytime he wants to. Right? > > This makes no sense. > It is the damnedest thing I have seen in a long time. Mind bogglin

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Peter Gluck wrote: I think people coming from a country with a relatively normal history re > not able to understand well the behaviour of people coming from a country > that was once a dictature- as Greece (or Romania.) > I knew lots of people who lived through the militarist dictatorship in Ja

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Glad you responded to DGT, Jed, You conclude with: > I do not think I can get the message through. > I suppose they do not want to hear it. I'm inclined to speculate that, yes, they HAVE gotten your message. They probably got your message long ago. But perhaps, for strategic business reasons, th

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Let me expand on some thoughts. I gather Stremmenos has yet to visit DGT's labs. Why? Several scenarios come to mind: * If Stremmenos were to discover the fact that DGT's hyperons are authentic, and that have created their own version of "the secret sauce", it would essentially authenticate DGT'

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Any dictature breeds irrationalities and it is difficult to compare Japan's imperialist one seemingly very popular with the Greek one hated by the democratic people. And the kamikaze were lead by a very peculiar rationality. I think analogies have limited domains of application, we have to take car

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Here is a response to this proposal by Ed Storms. he feels this project is dangerous. I share his concerns. I was going to say this, but he says it with more authority than I could. Rossi himself has often cautioned his readers that this research is dangerous. I am glad he says that. - Jed - - -

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: I'm inclined to speculate that, yes, they HAVE gotten your message. They probably got your message long ago. But perhaps, for strategic business reasons, they continue to deliberately obfuscate the issue by exercising the art of deflection and misdirection.

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Peter Gluck wrote: > And the kamikaze were lead by a very peculiar rationality. A horrible business. For insight into it, see the book "I was a Kamikaze" by Ruiji Nagatsuka, and "Blossoms in the Wind: Human Legacies of the Kamikaze," by M.G. Sheftall. I know some pilots in the Imperial Japanes

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Cooling is "optional"? Gak! Storms is right with one exception -- in a geometry such as Rossi has, calorimetry is fairly easy. But not by Rossi's measurement methods.

RE: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

They are disagreeing with your statement that Stremmenos accused them of criminal activity. You stated: "What is disturbing about Defkalion is their dispute with Stremmenos. To have member of the Board of Directors accusing you of criminal activity in the mass media is the worst public relat

Re: [Vo]:"Private information" about Rossi was the Ampernergo tests described by McKubre

Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > In addition, there was plenty of rational skepticism here long before Yugo > or Cude came around. By the time Yugo even made his/her/its presence > known, I think the forum had already touched on her criticisms, including > Rossi’s sordid past and run-ins with th

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

>From Robert: ... > Whether the decision is based on strategy or attorney's recommendation > is anybody's guess. IMO, both are good guesses. ...a little of both. I bet lawyers on both sides of the fence will make a bundle of money. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazz

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Defkalion's responses have a highly Steornish flavor. They are tangential. Evasive. I doubt it's a language problem. The most likely reason Defkalion answers Jed the way they do is that they depended on Rossi's word and his delivery of technology which never happened. My best guess is that it di

[Vo]: Cosmic Trigger?

On an earlier post I suggested that the LENR reactions such as those exhibited by Rossi could have been triggered by cosmic rays. I was a little disappointed by the few comments that were generated and I was hoping to further study this possibility. One of the main skeptic positions is that it

[Vo]:OT: String Theorists Simulate the Big Bang

http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/string-theory-big-bang-2238/ The researchers said the spontaneous symmetry-breaking resulted from a quantum fluctuation — a momentary violation in the law of conservation of energy, which is permitted by the rules of quantum mechanics. "The space-time has ce

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

How come Mary Yugo explanations of the "current events" sounds always the most rational, well thought and coherent? It just fits all the facts. Giovanni On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > Defkalion's responses have a highly Steornish flavor. They are > tangential. Evasive.

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

On 11-12-20 10:44 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: I'm inclined to speculate that, yes, they HAVE gotten your message. They probably got your message long ago. But perhaps, for strategic business reasons, they continue to deliberately obfuscate the issue by exercis

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > And if they're actually con guys, well, most criminals are, after all, > kind of dumb (despite the fact that the ones who get famous and written up > in the news tend to be exceptionally intelligent). This has been studied > (can't

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

>From Stephen: > Perhaps they *are* stupid. > > That issue is quite independent of whether they're honest.  Not everybody in > business who is in a position to control substantial sums is highly > intelligent, after all. > > And if they're actually con guys, well, most criminals are, after all, ki

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Giovanni sez: > How come Mary Yugo explanations of the "current events" > sounds always the most rational, well thought and coherent? > It just fits all the facts. According to your personal paradigm. There will always be mutual admiration societies. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWork

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Maryyugo's explanation always sounds more rational because he, she conveniently omits the part that Rossi has allowed independent tests (although not performed to his liking) and these tests do show O/I, especially Lewan's 2nd test and the one performed by E & K. If you added the following to t

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:52 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Perhaps it would be wise to stop further speculation until we can > discern a more definitive pattern of actions from the primary actors > of this drama. > You can certainly abstain from specul

[Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094

Might I suggest all Not Off Topic (i.e., technical, aka, ‘signal’) postings use NOT in the subject line to make them more obvious to those who care not to waste bandwidth on the personal aspects of the Rossi saga… In my latest session of ‘serendipitous surfing’, I was scanning a PDF of the docu

RE: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Nothing new in Mary's post. as USUAL. The same old very tired speculations which PROVE nothing. Same waste of bandwidth. From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Str

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > Nothing new in Mary’s post… as USUAL. > > The same old very tired speculations which PROVE nothing. > > Same waste of bandwidth. > Maybe the pattern I pointed out is not news but there is no specul

RE: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com

Thanks Robert I appreciate your advice Are you building ? > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:23:20 + > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com > From: robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > Things to consider: > 1/ Probably want to make sure that the hydrogen

[Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Defkalion asked an independent expert to contact me and discuss some aspects of the company and their technology. This person is well known to me and I trust him completely. For the time being he asks to remain anonymous, for good reasons. The expert has examined the machines and discussed their b

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Horace, Calorimetry is done through temperature monitorring, simple on the equipment a bit more demanding on the experimentalist and analysis. In due time we will post more details on the analysis as a help. > Device looks kinda small Yes and I put a lot effort in making it even smaller. The smal

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Yes, we know this all. Serious companies do always forward this stuff anonymously on lists like Vortex L. Ok, sometimes they use better more prominent channels like PESWIKI or Freeenenergytruth. This is a definitive proof of reliability and truth. Thank you very much!

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Their upcoming products are revolutionary. They are the best LENR > implementations ever produced. The expert says the prototype products are > consistent with the specifications described in the web site. > > No tests were done by this obs

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On 2011-12-20 21:09, Jed Rothwell wrote: The expert has examined the machines and discussed their business plans. He has made an independent in-depth evaluation lasting several days. He Do you mean that this person actually went there an examined the machines in person? Sorry if I'm being pic

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Hey Bastiaan, How to you remove the heat? Why don't you use a liquid coolant in a jacket surrounding the cell -- like Rossi seems to do? That would accomplish reasonably accurate calorimetry for you "automatically" with nothing more than a flow meter, two thermometers, a known electrical power

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Defkalion is not only starting a company, it is > developing revolutionary technology, dealing with complex business > arrangements, and dealing with Rossi, who is a difficult person to do > business with. So they *are* dealing with Rossi sti

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

> Materials and material preparation are the key to cold fusion. The hardest > part by far. You cannot use just any Ni material. Exactly! That is why we want to engage the crowd! Because finding exactly the right stuff may be a daunting task. Moreover, even if you think you have found the right st

[Vo]:Next Rossi customer update

Thomas Di Pietro December 20th, 2011 at 1:22 PM December 20th, 2011 at 1:22 PM Dear Engineer Rossi  [ google translate : ]  A few days ago we confirmed that it sold another 1-megawatt plant to a U.S. customer who seem not to want to remain anonymous. As soon as the contract of sale was ready

AW: Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

I'm a little shocked by this. It isn't information nor opinion - more some kind of propaganda. You've heard from somebody you trust completely but can't say who and that somebody shared an opinion with you based on Defkalion asking him/her to do so, right? Who is protecting who? And from what?

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On 11-12-20 03:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Defkalion asked an independent expert to contact me and discuss some aspects of the company and their technology. This person is well known to me and I trust him completely. For the time being he asks to remain anonymous, for good reasons. OK, so yo

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Mary Yugo wrote: > Any idea WHEN your consultant might do some tests? > Soon, I hope. > How can an "independent in-depth evaluation lasting several days" NOT > involve doing tests? It is what engineers call a "site visit" meaning a formal evaluation or planning session made in preparation

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

A site evaluation is something like what Matts Lewan did? 2011/12/20 Jed Rothwell > Mary Yugo wrote: > > >> Any idea WHEN your consultant might do some tests? >> > > Soon, I hope. > > > >> How can an "independent in-depth evaluation lasting several days" NOT >> involve doing tests? > > > It is

RE: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

"There is nothing new in MOST of the posts in this string." Very true. as I've been harping on, to everyone, for several weeks now, and it has gotten so bad that even the mild-mannered Horace has issued a plea to move the noise to vortexB. Did you not see his posting? Horace is probably the most

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On 11-12-20 03:42 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mary Yugo mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com>> wrote: Any idea WHEN your consultant might do some tests? Soon, I hope. How can an "independent in-depth evaluation lasting several days" NOT involve doing tests? It is what engineers call a "site

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > OK, so you cite someone you know, who is unnamed, who claims to have met > someone he now knows, but whom you haven't met . . . How do you know who I have met, and not met? The engineering and business operations at Defkalion are highly promising. >> These people

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

In this case we have to give Jed some slack. What he described is what he was told by a persons he trusts as competent. And what Jed was told is that an initial fist visit was done and everything seems to be ok and as advertised. It is just an initial, first inspection in preparation for a more thr

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

>From Mr. Lawrence, ... > Good. Nice. The prototypes (mockups?) apparently look > pretty, and the paper specs look good. (So did the > Batmobile I saw at a car show some years back. It had > great specs, too, by the way.) But do they work? Do > they do anything at all? This statement says *

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > He (unnamed party #1) says he was impressed by whatever it was. > > Not exactly airtight. > It was not intended to be airtight. I think I made that clear, with carefully hedged statements. If I thought it was airtight, I would have said so. If the expert had consi

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

I think that Defkalion's much higher quality engineering and design than Rossi's is obvious from everything they have published till now on the website. The Press Conference was also well organized and lead. Rossi has abandoned them but Defkalion has worked out a survival solution. And hopefully m

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On 11-12-20 04:02 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: OK, so you cite someone you know, who is unnamed, who claims to have met someone he now knows, but whom you haven't met . . . How do you know who I have met, and not met? I don't. Obvious

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Akira Shirakawa wrote: Do you mean that this person actually went there an examined the machines in person? Sorry if I'm being picky here. Just want to be 100% sure. Yup, that's what I mean. Also tons of data from the machines. The data was collected by Defkalion's equipment. The next step i

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

[This may be duplicated] Akira Shirakawa wrote: Do you mean that this person actually went there an examined the machines in person? Sorry if I'm being picky here. Just want to be 100% sure. Yup, that's what I mean. Also tons of data from the machines. The data was collected by Defkalion's equ

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Am 20.12.2011 22:02, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: OK, so you cite someone you know, who is unnamed, who claims to have met someone he now knows, but whom you haven't met . . . How do you know who I have met, and not met? The engineering and business operations at Defka

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

Mary, I'm looking into cooling, it won't be finished for the first version though. You can't just stick the reactor in a bath as the top and bottem of the reactor have things (eg electrical wires) sticking out from them. My plan is to use a 'springy' kind of copper tube coil, that sids around the

Re: [Vo]:"Private information" about Rossi was the Ampernergo tests described by McKubre

On 11-12-19 09:14 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > From Susan Jed, How we call "inidipendent" the tests made by Ampenergo ? Do we have something else excepts a bunch of words ? Do you know who they are ? These guys are all friends or in someway related to Rossi. Somewhere ther

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Akira Shirakawa wrote: > > Do you mean that this person actually went there an examined the machines >> in person? Sorry if I'm being picky here. Just want to be 100% sure. >> > > Yup, that's what I mean. Also tons of data from the machines.

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Obviously, Mr. Lawrence is expressing reservations. It seems to me > that expressing doubt under the current circumstances is a perfectly > reasonable conclusion, considering all the obfuscation going on. > Sure. I still have reservations. I think I made that

Re: [Vo]:FusionCatalyst.org

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Bastiaan Bergman < bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Mary, > > I'm looking into cooling, it won't be finished for the first version > though. You can't just stick the reactor in a bath as the top and > bottem of the reactor have things (eg electrical wires) stic

Re: [Vo]:"Private information" about Rossi was the Ampernergo tests described by McKubre

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > McKubre didn't test anything of Rossi's. (Correct me if I'm wrong, > please!) He knows someone who did. This is an important distinction. > That is correct. That is what he said during his lecture, which is linked here: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm I think tha

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > We all know that Defkalion is behind their originally announced > schedule. It sounds like their R&D is difficult and it is taking longer > than expected. Anyone who has been involved in R&D would expect that. It > takes twice as long and i

Re: [Vo]:Next Rossi customer update

Could it be Black Light Power? -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 10:39 am Subject: [Vo]:Next Rossi customer update Thomas Di Pietro December 20th, 2011 at 1:22 PMDecember 20th, 2011 at 1:22 PM Dear Engineer Rossi [ google translate : ]

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On 11-12-20 04:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: We all know that Defkalion is behind their originally announced schedule. It sounds like their R&D is difficult and it is taking longer than expected. Anyone who has been involved in R&D would expect that. It takes twice as long and it costs 10 times

Re: [Vo]:Phen formula from ecatbuilder.com

No, don't have access to a workshop at the moment (I'm on wrong side of the planet). Besides which I get the feeling that it is very very difficult to do material processing and calorimetry to the standards required to actually learn anything without access to a good materials lab and a well equip

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Mary Yugo wrote: > > Why doesn't the guy just say: "I saw what appeared to be a working fusion > reactor. I saw data being taken and I examined the transducers and > readouts and they seemed legitimate. I looked over the data and it > strongly indicated that the device was making at least 10x

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Again, in Rossi's case, there is no evidence at all that his device can be > made to work at useful energy levels ... except the evidence which comes > from Rossi himself. > I guess there is no evidence if you cover your eyes and your ears and yell "nya, nya, I can'

[Vo]:OT: resonance: music of the goblets...

http://youtu.be/QdoTdG_VNV4 Harry

Re: [Vo]:Next Rossi customer update

At 02:07 PM 12/20/2011, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Could it be Black Light Power? Hmmm ... they're in New Jersey, so it qualifies as "North East". But I think Rossi would regard them as a snake/competitor.

Re: [Vo]:Next Rossi customer update

>> Could it be Black Light Power? > Hmmm ... they're in New Jersey, so it qualifies as "North East". > But I think Rossi would regard them as a snake/competitor. Hah! Great speculation. I wish BLP *would* find a way to "acquire" one of Rossi's contraptions. Alas, me thinks this would be too muc

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR Theory Papers

I don't remember seeing this : Fralick Slides Slide 14 has a nice summary of theories (transcribe

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

At 01:12 PM 12/20/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Take it or leave it. I'll take it ... thanks! Coincidentally, today Krivit comes out with : LENR Real; Rossi and Defkalion Dubious

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR Theory Papers

At 03:29 PM 12/20/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Ultra-Low Momentum Neutrons (Widom and Larsen) [ I think his title's wrong ... WEAK force capture of heavy electron and proton, giving U-L-M-N ] May BAD!!! That's the first few words from W&L's title !

[Vo]:Supermags w/o Rare Earths

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-magnetic-breakthrough-significant.html Magnetic breakthrough may have significant pull December 20, 2011 Physics professor Don Heiman and graduate student-researcher Steven Bennett have designed a super-strong magnetic material that may revolutionize the produc

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On 11-12-20 05:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: Again, in Rossi's case, there is no evidence at all that his device can be made to work at useful energy levels ... except the evidence which comes from Rossi himself. I guess there is n

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Oh? On-demand production of **useful** heat? From gas phase hydrogen on > nickel, with nothing but roasting to trigger the reaction? > By "roasting" I assume you mean gas loading followed by heat. Piantelli did that. All results are on demand. See Henry IV: Gle

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > ”There is nothing new in MOST of the posts in this string.” > > This forum is NOT a substitute for the ‘comment’ section of some > website. It is specifically meant to discuss the technical merits of

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Mary Yugo wrote: > > Very true but all the more reason to avoid the extravagant claims and > bluster which was so obvious in earlier postings by Defkalion to their > forum -- around June of this year. Perhaps you missed those? Things like > having dozens of reactors under test, varying outputs

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > But what is wrong with that?!? Nearly every effect discovered since 1700 > has started off on a small scale, and was later scaled up: electricity, > electromagnetism, radio waves, fission, lasers, transistors . . . > Transistors have been s

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > >> >> Very true but all the more reason to avoid the extravagant claims and >> bluster which was so obvious in earlier postings by Defkalion to their >> forum -- around June of this year. Perhaps you missed those? Things

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

Tiresome accusations like this ought to be banned from this list. Have you ever once seen a paycheck cut for the job of Internet trolling? Really? Really? Because it sounds like an awesome part time job, frankly. On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:10, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Cude what does this have

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Mary Yugo wrote: I think you're being pedantic here. Of course I mean that they made the > exorbitant claims without proper evidence, not that I have proof that the > claims are false. The claims are incredible and extreme. > Not as far as I know. They are not incredible or extreme in view of

Re: [Vo]:Supermags w/o Rare Earths

This is good news. There was a similar announcement from a Japanese university, this year I think. Don't recall which one . . . They also developed powerful magnets without rare earths. The Japanese government was upset by the Chinese market manipulations of rare earths. It launched a number of in

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > I suggest you hedge your bets. > I've done that all along. And please don't patronize me. It's not very elegant. Grasshopper indeed. You're not some sort of senior sage. You're just trying to decipher a deliberately deceptive and unc

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Mary Yugo wrote: I suggest you hedge your bets. >> > > I've done that all along. > Maybe amp it up a few notches? And please don't patronize me. It's not very elegant. Grasshopper > indeed. You're not some sort of senior sage. > Ah, but I am an honorary oriental. (Brevetted rank.) Plus I

Re: [Vo]:Supermags w/o Rare Earths

This seems to be the usual result when someone tries to corner a market. A long time ago the sulfur suppliers tried it and lost out big time. They will reap their just rewards. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 9:30 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Mary, This was easy to check. There is indeed a Xanthi Police Academy. Not yet news if they are indeed warmed up by e-cats. http://www.xanthi.ilsp.gr/cultureportalweb/print.php?article_id=1070&lang=en&print_mode=article Giovanni On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yug

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

And here where the Police academy is located on google maps: http://wikimapia.org/17980152/Police-academy Giovanni. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > Mary, > This was easy to check. There is indeed a Xanthi Police Academy. Not yet > news if they are indeed warmed up

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

AND HERE IT IS ! Go on the left of the academy and you see a symbol of a factory. If you translate from Greek this what you get: Former Factory Atmatzidis It will house the 1 of the 3 plants of the company power Defkalion. Also there have been some installation work. Giovann On Tue, Dec 20, 2

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

So the coordinates of the Defkalion factory are: 41.1188 24.8674 Giovanni On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > AND HERE IT IS ! > Go on the left of the academy and you see a symbol of a factory. If you > translate from Greek this what you get: > > Former Factory Atma

Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their reactors

Found the Defkalion factory coordinates. It is indeed close to the Xanthi Police Academy. Here they are: 41.1188 24.8674 Giovanni On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < > zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > >> ”There is n

Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion

Article on Defkalion from a local Xanthi newpaper: http://www.xanthipress.gr/eidiseis/politiki/8221-o-antiktipos-gia-ti-defkalion-stin-xanthi-i-epomeni-parousiasi.html Giovanni On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > So the coordinates of the Defkalion factory are: > >

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