It is interesting that you should wonder why E-cat systems have not been
seen earlier.
Over Christmas I met someone whilst out on a walk, got chatting, and
found that they had been working on Palladium/Hydrogen systems in the
1960's, and had become aware that there was something odd going on.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.comwrote:
The problem with all of that is the ones who work the least are the ones
with the most money.
It's only a problem to you.
Do you think Buffet really worked a million times harder than the average
person?
No,
Krivit wrote:
Not verified. Just reporting the facts on record.
I’m trying to wrap this investigation up and finish up the loose ends.
In month 12 now. Has cost me more than $50,000 in labor and expenses.
Has cost the field at least a one-year delay/interference in covering real
science.
50K$ for that shitty investigation?!? Seriously???
2012/2/18 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Krivit wrote:
Not verified. Just reporting the facts on record.
I’m trying to wrap this investigation up and finish up the loose ends.
In month 12 now. Has cost me more than $50,000 in labor and
Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:
Over Christmas I met someone whilst out on a walk, got chatting, and found
that they had been working on Palladium/Hydrogen systems in the 1960's, and
had become aware that there was something odd going on. . . .
In his book, Mizuno said every
I wrote:
If he is a scammer he has not scammed anyone yet as far as I know.
More to the point, Krivit has not found any victims yet either. What kind
of investigation is this? He thinks he has disproved the science. I
disagree, but if that is what he did, he could have done it as easily
It seems to me as Dick Smith doesn't want to understand what Defkalion
offers:
http://ecatnews.com/?p=2068
Where do they talk of a minimum COP of 3? They just say, that 3 will
definitely be met and even surpassed... This is totally in line with the
proclaimed COP of 20 and above as Defkalion
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
The SK continues to believe that a corporate address and a factory have to be
co-located.
LOL! If this were true, Delaware would be an industrial behemoth:
More than 900,000 business entities have their legal home in
Hello group,
It has come to my attention that in about 20 minutes (at 17:30 local
time) a meeting between Francesco Celani and some 22passi readers in
Rome, Italy will be webcast here:
http://22passi.blogspot.com/2012/02/due-passi-dalle-lenr-se-ne-discute.html
Unfortunately for the
From Jed:
...
As Daniel says, what could possibly cost $50,000 about this?
What has Krivit done? He has not uncovered anything that has
not been reported here, as far as I know. He went all the
way to Italy to report that Rossi will not let people use
their own instruments and the
Everything you just said is your personal opinion too you know. People's
values are stupid. You said the guy who was terminally ill would rather have a
good doctor than LENR. This is because he is basing his decision off his
emotions and doesn't think. If LENR was widespread, we could have
2012/2/16 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com:
So Rossi doesn't take money from investors, but he does take money
from the sale of licenses for an unreliable product. Is this a responsible
way to run a business?
Harry, what's your point?
Surely you realize the fact that
2012/2/18 Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com:
Perhaps he behaves this way because he
his mother or father did not tolerate failure.
Or poor potty training.
T
It seems to have a transcript below. Is that possible?
It seems they are conducting the meeting in a wine cellar, like a scene in
a Tintin comic. Is *that* possible?!?
Now there is a fire alarm going off. This is a lively event.
- Jed
I guess the text below is being sent by the viewing audience on the
Internet.
At times like this it does feel like we are living in the 21st century.
- Jed
On 2012-02-18 19:19, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I guess the text below is being sent by the viewing audience on the
Internet.
The event is being broadcast from a tasting room of a wine shop.
Yes, the text below is from the viewing audience on the Internet.
Questions written there get asked to Celani
From Jed:
...
As Daniel says, what could possibly cost $50,000 about this?
What has Krivit done? He has not uncovered anything that has
not been reported here, as far as I know. He went all the
way to Italy to report that Rossi will not let people use
their own instruments and the
I guess the text below is being sent by the viewing audience on the
Internet.
The event is being broadcast from a tasting room of a wine shop.
Yes, the text below is from the viewing audience on the Internet.
Questions written there get asked to Celani from time to time.
This is
On 2012-02-18 20:08, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
This is fascinating. Damn! Wish I knew Italian.
I hope someone will eventually be able to perform a reasonable translation
into English pertaining to the high points.
Videos of this event will be uploaded to Youtube and Vimeo as
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:46:33 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
IOW, since Pb is heavy and does not normally have 60% of the energy of coal,
our leap of faith in this example, is that the Bedini style of back-EMF
pulsing on the reactants is able to derive chemical energy in a new
Von: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 20:08 Samstag, 18.Februar 2012
This is fascinating. Damn! Wish I knew Italian.
Well. At least the Italians and Greeks have a feeling for drama and comedy.
To
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
An atom of Lead is about 17 times heavier than an atom of carbon, so for
it to
have 60% of the energy density, it would need to produce about 10 times the
energy per atom that carbon produces. Since carbon produces about 4 eV /
atom,
when
On 2012-02-18 17:11, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Hello group,
Here's a nice recap of what has been discussed during the meeting,
courtesy of user AB from ecatnews.com (in the comment section here:
http://ecatnews.com/?p=2068 ):
The 22passi meeting has ended. There were no real news, but I
Uh-oh . ???
http://pesn.com/2012/02/07/9602034_Fund_Drive_for_S._Africa_Trip_to_See_New_Number_1_Free_Energy_Technology/#Follow-up
Just says Report pending . . .
AND it's no longer in the Top 5
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Top_5_Exotic_Free_Energy_Technologies
Krivit continues his investigative journalism :
Rossi Blames E-Cat Delivery Discrepancy on Translation Error
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/18/rossi-blames-e-cat-delivery-discrepancy-on-translation-error/
Artist's visualization of 1 MW plant on its way to the customer ..
On 2012-02-18 17:11, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
He also took several other secret readings by pretending to go to the
bathroom which was nearby.
No wonder Rossi distrusts academics!
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:24:05 -0800:
Hi Jones,
[snip]
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
An atom of Lead is about 17 times heavier than an atom of carbon, so for
it to
have 60% of the energy density, it would need to produce about 10 times the
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
When I was still one of the NET BoD directors I asked Krivit whether he was
actually pursuing the role of an advocate rather than that of an
independent investigative reporter. This was related to the fact that I
noticed he was
If one is advocating it, this limitation should be overcome. With 50k$, a
year, that is possible, either by self learning or going to an university.
2012/2/18 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
As Dirty Harry said, a man should know his limitations.
- Jed
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
Rossi says an optional cooling / air conditioning module can later be
attached to the e-Cat. Supposedly this is some kind of heat pump /
absorption cooler. I can understand how that would work, theoretically.
In real life, however, I have not seen much more of this technology than
a camping
The worse part it is that he considers a written communication (e-mail)
better than a phone or skype video conference. I think he forgot that the
latter can be easily recorded and hardly faked whereas the former can be
easily forged. Go figure.
2012/2/18 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl
BTW, Dick Smith is acting like a retarded. It seems he cannot understand
his own email exchanges, his own native language.
2012/2/18 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
The worse part it is that he considers a written communication (e-mail)
better than a phone or skype video conference. I
sorry to interrupt for this question:
what do I do wrong, that most of the time my postings do not show up in
my own e-mail box, and apparently also not on
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/ ?
For example, on mail-archive.com, my message with title Dick Smith $1M
sentiments
I received your original post entitled: Dick Smith $1M sentiments
The mail-archive site does on occasion miss emails, out fail to correctly
catalogue them. The best thing to do are:
A) Ensure that any time you create a new thread, you start a new email from
scratch. If you reply and change the
I think postings get lost when sent to a group and to vortex as this both to my
self and another copy to vortex
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Incorrect_predictions#Television
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
If one is advocating it, this limitation should be overcome. With 50k$, a
year, that is possible, either by self learning or going to an university.
I believe you are suggesting that with $50,000 per year, Krivit might study
by himself or attend
Well, I personally do not see WL theory as something that would require
much more than an undergraduate level, or for the most complicated ones,
anything close to a PhD. I believe Mizuno said he cannot understand
simply because the theories presented so far really do not make sense.
But he is
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/02/18/national-instruments-denies-relationship-with-rossi/
Confirmed by NI.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
And no wonder academics and many other people
distrust Rossi- even if they admit he has found something potentially
useful.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
On 2012-02-18 17:11, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
He also took several other secret readings by
Did Krivit ask if NI was working with any partner/customer/joint venturer of
Rossi/Leonardo Corp.
At this point if Rossi is legit he has to Partner with an entity with resources.
Frankly, it would be just like Krivit not ask that question or tell if he did.
Also, NI could be working under an
There are reports decades before FP about cold fusion, Filimonenko Ivan
Stepanovich for example...
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:
Over Christmas I met someone whilst out on a walk, got chatting, and
found
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