Re: [Vo]:More on automation hubris

I wrote: > There has been great progress reducing population growth and poverty. > Third world literacy is 80% and growing rapidly. > These three are closely tied together. High population growth is mainly caused by dire poverty, high infant mortality, lack of education, and lack of old age

Re: [Vo]:More on automation hubris

Brian Ahern wrote: > > The uncontrolled birth rates in Africa will overwhelm any possibility of > UBI there. > Birth rates and infant mortality rates in sub-Saharan Africa are the same as they were in the U.S. in 1963. I would describe that as high, but not out of control.

Re: [Vo]:More on automation hubris

Hubris.LENR does not mix well with global economics. The uncontrolled birth rates in Africa will overwhelm any possibility of UBI there. From: Lennart Thornros Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Axil, Your scenario is a good example of how the economy really is. It is not a zero sum game. Our resources are built on previous generations innovations and progress. After that we all have 24 hours per day. We can use them productively (in a wide sense) or just misuse them. Computers, houses,

Re: [Vo]:More on automation hubris

Brian Ahern wrote: > The population of Egypt and Nigeria are exploding and will soon results in > widespread dislocation. > Egypt has fallen from 6.6 to 3.3 births per woman. That's still high, but it is good progress. Nigeria does indeed have one of the fastest growing

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

You are not paying attention to what has been said. One of the advantages of UBI is that it will provide money to the people to spend on things made by robots. Goods manufactured by robots will keep getting cheaper. The tax paid by manufacturers and service providers will be about the same

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: I am not afraid of the extreme wealth. > (1) In a neoliberal democracy such as the US, wealth buys political influence and power. Not necessarily in the same way that it does in a country like Nigeria or India, where

Re: [Vo]:More on automation hubris

The population of Egypt and Nigeria are exploding and will soon results in widespread dislocation. Your data is conveniently under reporting this ascending problem. From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:52 AM To:

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Last I looked the sea was rising about 2 -3 mm/yr. What makes you think so much will be flooded? On 11/26/2016 11:20 PM, Axil Axil wrote: cities worldwide within 100 miles of the coastline will be underwater and in need of relocation inland,

[Vo]:LENR discusiaons, I addaed a 4th comment

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/11/nov-27-2106-lenr-just-three-comments-at.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Daniel Rocha wrote: How will economy improve if people are simply not buying? And it will be > much more costly. I am thinking about 90% of unemployment. > Come, come. Why stop at 90%? Think 100% unemployment. Now imagine billions of robotic machines using cold fusion

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

from exchange it seems that one big problem and neglected point is about allocation of the capitale. what people name "robots are taking our jobs" is simply the well known "replacement of work by capital". One psychological problem marxist but mostly old fashioned simply, is that people don't