Re: [Vo]:Huge news - Apple creates Apple Energy - an energy subsidiary

2016-06-09 Thread Esa Ruoho 
A.ashfield, looks like you haven't been paying attention to what else Apple
have cooking, re: patents.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2015/03/apple-granted-their-first-fuel-cell-patent.html
"Apple granted their first fuel cell patent"

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/04/a-fascinating-liquidmetal-patent-from-apple-surfaces-in-europe.html
"Liquid metal fuel cell"

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2015/12/a-new-charging-device-patent-from-apple-shows-ongoing-focus-on-a-future-fuel-cell-system.html
"A New Charging Device Patent from Apple shows Ongoing Focus on a Future
Fuel Cell System"

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2011/12/the-race-is-on-for-next-generation-fuel-cell-powered-devices.html
"The Race is on for Next Generation Fuel Cell Powered Devices"


also, their campus has BloomEnergy fuel cells installed, etc.

Apple could easily adopt LENR once it's feasible and mass-manufacturable
(and something you can implement into their mobile devices).



On 9 June 2016 at 22:57, a.ashfield  wrote:

> Huge news?
> Give me a break.
> Solar is the most expensive way of generating power
> Apple products are usually the most expensive.
> I believe LENR will surface shortly
>
>
> On 6/9/2016 3:03 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
>
> http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/09/apple-energy-company/
> "Apple has just become an energy company, looks to sell excess electricity
> into the grid and maybe more"
>
> Apple has quietly created an energy subsidiary, ‘Apple Energy’ LLC,
> registered in Delaware but run from its Cupertino headquarters. The company
> was seemingly formed to allow it to sell excess electricity generated by
> its solar farms in Cupertino and Nevada, with plans to sell electricity
> across the whole of the US.
>
> [Apple Energy LLC] is a Delaware limited liability company and is a 100%
> wholly owned subsidiary of Apple Inc. [Contact is] Apple Energy LLC, One
> Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA 95014
>
> Given Apple’s expertise and huge commitment to using renewable energy to
> power its operations, it is no surprise that it wants to ensure that its
> solar farms generate sufficient power to meet its needs. Because the sun
> only shines during the day obviously, Apple needs to shift its generation
> and its usage. Data centers need to go 24/7. Apple Stores are open in the
> evening. Apple has alternatives for this at its campus (see Fuel Cell
> generation below) but if it wants to operate 100% renewable, it has to
> “trade” overcapacity during the middle of the day for “net-metered” energy
> during the evening or cloudy days.
>
> Apple’s Cupertino Campus 2 Photovoltaics are rated at 14 megawatts alone.
>
> But a set of Federal Energy Regulatory Commission filings suggests that
> Apple could have bigger ambitions in the power field …
>
> Currently, when private companies sell their excess power, they can only
> do so to energy companies – and they often (varies by state) have to sell
> at wholesale rates. What Apple seemingly could to do, however, is sell
> directly to end-users at market rates. In other words, get paid retail
> prices for its excess power.
>
> Currently companies like Green Mountain Power can sell green renewable
> energy to homeowners all over the US. It wouldn’t be a stretch to see Apple
> do this as a product in the future.
>
> Apple has told the FERC that it meets the legal criteria for selling
> electricity at market rates because it is not a major player in the energy
> business and thus has no power to influence electricity prices. It has
> requested permission begin within 60 days of its filing on 6th June.
>
>
>
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Re: [Vo]:Huge news - Apple creates Apple Energy - an energy subsidiary

2016-06-09 Thread a.ashfield 

Huge news?
Give me a break.
Solar is the most expensive way of generating power
Apple products are usually the most expensive.
I believe LENR will surface shortly

On 6/9/2016 3:03 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:

http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/09/apple-energy-company/
"Apple has just become an energy company, looks to sell excess 
electricity into the grid and maybe more"


Apple has quietly created an energy subsidiary, ‘Apple Energy’ LLC, 
registered in Delaware but run from its Cupertino headquarters. The 
company was seemingly formed to allow it to sell excess electricity 
generated by its solar farms in Cupertino and Nevada, with plans to 
sell electricity across the whole of the US.


[Apple Energy LLC] is a Delaware limited liability company and is a 
100% wholly owned subsidiary of Apple Inc. [Contact is] Apple Energy 
LLC, One Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA 95014


Given Apple’s expertise and huge commitment to using renewable energy 
to power its operations, it is no surprise that it wants to ensure 
that its solar farms generate sufficient power to meet its needs. 
Because the sun only shines during the day obviously, Apple needs to 
shift its generation and its usage. Data centers need to go 24/7. 
Apple Stores are open in the evening. Apple has alternatives for this 
at its campus (see Fuel Cell generation below) but if it wants to 
operate 100% renewable, it has to “trade” overcapacity during the 
middle of the day for “net-metered” energy during the evening or 
cloudy days.


Apple’s Cupertino Campus 2 Photovoltaics are rated at 14 megawatts alone.

But a set of Federal Energy Regulatory Commission filings suggests 
that Apple could have bigger ambitions in the power field …


Currently, when private companies sell their excess power, they can 
only do so to energy companies – and they often (varies by state) have 
to sell at wholesale rates. What Apple seemingly could to do, however, 
is sell directly to end-users at market rates. In other words, get 
paid retail prices for its excess power.


Currently companies like Green Mountain Power can sell green renewable 
energy to homeowners all over the US. It wouldn’t be a stretch to see 
Apple do this as a product in the future.


Apple has told the FERC that it meets the legal criteria for selling 
electricity at market rates because it is not a major player in the 
energy business and thus has no power to influence electricity prices. 
It has requested permission begin within 60 days of its filing on 6th 
June.





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[Vo]:Huge news - Apple creates Apple Energy - an energy subsidiary

2016-06-09 Thread Esa Ruoho 
http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/09/apple-energy-company/
"Apple has just become an energy company, looks to sell excess electricity
into the grid and maybe more"

Apple has quietly created an energy subsidiary, ‘Apple Energy’ LLC,
registered in Delaware but run from its Cupertino headquarters. The company
was seemingly formed to allow it to sell excess electricity generated by
its solar farms in Cupertino and Nevada, with plans to sell electricity
across the whole of the US.

[Apple Energy LLC] is a Delaware limited liability company and is a 100%
wholly owned subsidiary of Apple Inc. [Contact is] Apple Energy LLC, One
Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA 95014

Given Apple’s expertise and huge commitment to using renewable energy to
power its operations, it is no surprise that it wants to ensure that its
solar farms generate sufficient power to meet its needs. Because the sun
only shines during the day obviously, Apple needs to shift its generation
and its usage. Data centers need to go 24/7. Apple Stores are open in the
evening. Apple has alternatives for this at its campus (see Fuel Cell
generation below) but if it wants to operate 100% renewable, it has to
“trade” overcapacity during the middle of the day for “net-metered” energy
during the evening or cloudy days.

Apple’s Cupertino Campus 2 Photovoltaics are rated at 14 megawatts alone.

But a set of Federal Energy Regulatory Commission filings suggests that
Apple could have bigger ambitions in the power field …

Currently, when private companies sell their excess power, they can only do
so to energy companies – and they often (varies by state) have to sell at
wholesale rates. What Apple seemingly could to do, however, is sell
directly to end-users at market rates. In other words, get paid retail
prices for its excess power.

Currently companies like Green Mountain Power can sell green renewable
energy to homeowners all over the US. It wouldn’t be a stretch to see Apple
do this as a product in the future.

Apple has told the FERC that it meets the legal criteria for selling
electricity at market rates because it is not a major player in the energy
business and thus has no power to influence electricity prices. It has
requested permission begin within 60 days of its filing on 6th June.




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