Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-09 Thread P.J van Noorden
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device When 4kW is added to such a waterflow the temperature would rise instantaneously to 100 degr C. You are confusing between static and dynamic condition. It's physically impossible

Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-09 Thread Mattia Rizzi
PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device Hello Mattia, When using a flow of 6.47 l/hour = 1.8 cc/ sec, and a temperature rise of 30degrC in 180 seconds (from the curve in the article = is 0.15 degr C/sec) the thermal power would be only

Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-09 Thread P.J van Noorden
, 2011 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device I agree with you that when 300W is used the temperature rise will be: 300W / 1.8 x 4.2 J/gr degrC = 40 degr/ sec. It's not 40 degr/sec. It's 40 degress. 1.8cc = 1.8 g. Flow is 1.8 g/s 1.8 g/s * 4.2 J/(g*K

Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-09 Thread Mattia Rizzi
. It's a simple calculation! From: P.J van Noorden Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 5:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device Ofcourse. degr/sec is a typo. But do you agree that if the temperature rise of a waterflow of 6.47 W/h is 30 degr

[Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-09 Thread P.J van Noorden
Hello Mattia, Ofcourse, you are right. I made a mistake. Peter - Original Message - From: Mattia Rizzi To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device Absolutely not. It's a flow. Water

[Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-07 Thread P.J van Noorden
Hello In figure 6 of the article http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29 it is stated that the waterflow is 6.47 l/ hour= about 2 ml/sec. This is about the waterflow of a espressomachine. When 4kW is added to such a

Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-07 Thread mixent
In reply to P.J van Noorden's message of Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:19:06 +0200: Hi, [snip] Hello In figure 6 of the article http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29 it is stated that the waterflow is 6.47 l/ hour= about 2

Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

2011-04-07 Thread Mattia Rizzi
. From: P.J van Noorden Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:19 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device Hello In figure 6 of the article http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n