[Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Haiko Lietz
Report from the World Sustainable Energy Conference 2012 in Geneva, 
10-12 Jan 2012


Thanks to the invitation of conference chairman Gustav Grob, Francesco 
Celani and I, representing the International Society for Condensed 
Matter Nuclear Science, had the opportunity to introduce the state of 
research in the field, recent developments regarding Rossi/Defkalion, 
and offer a glimpse into a possible future where energy is provided by 
Cold Fusion.


Francesco told how he and his group tried to disprove CF in 1989, found 
neutrons, decided to spend some time to see what is happening, and over 
time became convinced that it's neither fraud nor error, instead 
something difficult but quite solid. After a very turbulent beginning 
with poor reproducibility of experiments, the field had by now improved 
the quality and reproducibility of the results obtained and the most 
innovative experiments were cross-checked by other groups. He criticized 
that a confirmation of energy production by NASA in 1989 was not 
immediately made public, because publication could have helped the feld 
gain support and funding.


The occurence of transmutations was reported and work by Iwamura's group 
at Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, which has developed a method for the 
controlled transmutation of elements, was stressed. But the presentation 
was focussed on energy production.


A history of excess heat production and breakthroughs was given. Two 
different systems have been studied extensively: the Palladium/Deuterium 
system, pioneered by Fleischmann/Pons, and the Nickel/Hydrogen system, 
pioneered by Francesco Piantelli. Both systems have been shown to have 
potentially large power densities. In designing a working reactor, the 
materials issue is central. The biggest breakthroughs, according to 
Francesco, were the use of nano-particles and alloys, both pioneered by 
Yoshiaki Arata. Excess heat production using a ZrO2-Pd alloy (Arata) was 
independently reproduced by Akito Takahashi/Akira Kitamura, even though 
the latter used material from a different, industrial provider. This is 
remarkable because in CF not all materials behave similarly, not even 
from the same producer.


Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was 
produced not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is 
expected, but also when it was unloaded. Takahashi/Kitamura found a 
temperature dependency of excess heat prouction using Cu-Ni-Zr alloy. 
Francesco reported own work in progress that excess heat production in a 
thin, micro-nano coated Cu-Ni wire was positively correlated with a 
slight decrease in electrical resistance at room temperature but with a 
strong decrease at higher temperatures (300-500°C). All in all, 
experiments using nano-sized materials are highly reproducible. 
Operation in the gas phase enables higher temperatures which further 
improves reproducibility.


The facts that no greenhouse gases are produced, dangerous radiation or 
residual radioativity can very likely be completely eliminated, and 
energy sources are small, are good preconditions for commercial 
products. Recent, extraordinary claims by Andrea Rossi and Defkalion 
Green Technologies, who claim to produce energy in the kW-MW range, had 
to be regarded with both attention and caution. The field was not 
considering the Rossi/Defkalion claims to be impossible in principle, 
but they should be verified independently as soon as possible.


Apart from the Rossi/Defkalion claims, the quality of experiments 
worldwide was so high and the results obtained so widespread, that an 
international program, well funded and based on a multidisciplinary 
approach, had the possibility to build a device producing even 
electricity with very low, overall, emissions.


I gave an overview of claims by Rossi/Defkalion. Rossi has publically 
demonstrated a plant generating 1MW heat power and claims to have 
already sold 14 devices to a military customer and another one to a 
non-military customer. Within 2012 or 2013 he wants to put one million 
10-20kW devices on the market to be able to push the price below 
1ct/kWh. As a matter of fact, National Instruments, a company also 
providing control systems to tokamak Hot Fusion systems, is cooperating 
with Rossi's US company. The Greek company Defkalion wants to put 
reactors producing 5-45kW thermal power on the market, starting with the 
Greek market probably in 2012. Rossi/Defkalion claim to receive safety 
certificates within 2012. No party has an international patent, Rossi 
has protection in Italy.


According to a trusted source of Jed Rothwell, Defkalion's science, 
engineering, and equipment are first rate and the upcoming products 
revolutionary. I concluded that, even though there was no indication of 
fraud, neither Rossi nor Defkalion had lent their devices for 
independent testing and that there was no certainty that their devices 
work as claimed, including long term reliability.


If Cold 

Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
 Report from the World Sustainable Energy Conference 2012 in Geneva, 10-12
 Jan 2012

Thank you for your report, Haiko.  I find it quite amusing that Celani
began his career in CF intending to disprove the findings.  I was
unaware of this.

T



Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Rich Murray
This is counting the grandchildren before any grandparents were born
-- lofty cloudbanks of vaporware...

within mutual service,  Rich Murray, the pragmatic skeptic

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:

 Report from the World Sustainable Energy Conference 2012 in Geneva, 10-12
 Jan 2012



Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:

 Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was produced
 not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but
 also when it was unloaded.


A kind of homeopathy?

harry



Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Haiko Lietz

Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was produced
not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but
also when it was unloaded.



A kind of homeopathy?


I guess it shows that flux is important. See the curves here:

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20111209NASA-Fralick-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf 
(#12)


Haiko



Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
 Recent important results include the finding by NASA that heat was
 produced
 not just when Deuterium was loaded into Palladium, which is expected, but
 also when it was unloaded.


 A kind of homeopathy?


 I guess it shows that flux is important. See the curves here:

 http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20111209NASA-Fralick-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf
 (#12)


sort of like tidal power where you can generate electricity during the
incoming and outgoing tide?
Harry



Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Haiko Lietz

A kind of homeopathy?



I guess it shows that flux is important. See the curves here:

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20111209NASA-Fralick-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf
(#12)



sort of like tidal power where you can generate electricity during the
incoming and outgoing tide?


I think so. You can see in the NASA slides that the heat production 
decreases with time. In the beginning flux creates more fusion events. 
But as more and more deuterium is out of the bulk no more heat is produced.


Haiko



Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
 A kind of homeopathy?


 I guess it shows that flux is important. See the curves here:


 http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20111209NASA-Fralick-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf
 (#12)


 sort of like tidal power where you can generate electricity during the
 incoming and outgoing tide?


 I think so. You can see in the NASA slides that the heat production
 decreases with time. In the beginning flux creates more fusion events. But
 as more and more deuterium is out of the bulk no more heat is produced.

Michael McKubre calls it breathing in the Pd cathode.  The greatest
excess heat is produced while the concentration changes in the loaded
cell between 80 and 90 percent up or down.  At some point the cathode
stops breathing and cannot be revived without treatment of the
cathode.

T



Re: [Vo]:Report on Cold Fusion at WSEC2012

2012-01-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:


 sort of like tidal power where you can generate electricity during the
 incoming and outgoing tide?


Right! And that is an interesting analogy. As noted McKubre described this.

- Jed