Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Robert Lynn
Hadn't noticed but Akira linked to Celani's report above. http://www.22passi.it/downloads/PresICCF17_NewA3A.pdf Excellent level of detail, including exact alloy used (isotan44, a constant electrical resistivity alloy) should allow for many replication attempts - and just one flawless public

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-07 10:55, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Please watch this from minute 15:00 onward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxjxFdFEBsw Cheers, S.A.

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
This idea that radiation can be stopped in an unshielded robust device is generally incorrect. The claim indicates the proponent is unfamiliar with Maxwell-Boltzmann energy distributions. There are few physical phenomena which are simpler and more certain to measure in tiny amounts than nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hadn't noticed but Akira linked to Celani's report above. http://www.22passi.it/downloads/PresICCF17_NewA3A.pdf That's pretty good! I uploaded it already. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Alain Sepeda
I've just make quick computation showing, with celani data in the paper and at NIWeek, that : - chemical can be ruled out, even wit 95% anomaly error - if surface is the only active environment, using micrometric particle lead to power density of 10kW/g of powder, 10 times above the claim of Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa wrote: Please watch this from minute 15:00 onward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxjxFdFEBsw That's great! Finally, we are seeing some real progress. I think I'll put in the News section at LENR-CANR.org. If I have time today . . . I'll put a link to Krivit's report as

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
Note that CEO Dr James Truchard is no newcomer to the field, with his interest beginning in 1989. Can't go back much further than that. Note also that the good Doctor, at 16:53 recommends dropping the names cold-fusion or LENR in favor of quantum reactor ... to me this is tacit admission that

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-08 20:23, Jones Beene wrote: Note also that the good Doctor, at 16:53 recommends dropping the names cold-fusion or LENR in favor of quantum reactor ... to me this is tacit admission that NI has seen no evidence of nuclear reactions which are even close to commensurate with the

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Gluck
Dreaded or not dreaded, the process is nuclear. Just take a look to Piantelli's opuses or to the paradigm changing presentation of John Hadjichristos today at NI Week. Fortunately it is mildly and intelligently nuclear. Peter On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Akira Shirakawa

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Jones Beene
Peter, Can you cite a Piantelli paper where deuterium was absent, but where the transmutation products were well-correlated with excess energy? I think not. This is the same problem that Krivit finds with the lame correlation of helium to excess energy in Pd-D. I'm not saying that Krivit

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Gluck
dear Jones, Pisntelli (and FYI the Defkalion process) does not work with deuterium- not at all. It is rather difficult to determine the transmutation products at the Piantelli process. DGTG in their process they are using very good analytical techniques but it is difficult to calculate the

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012 + NANOR Status

2012-08-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:16 AM 8/8/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Akira Shirakawa wrote: Please watch this from minute 15:00 onward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxjxFdFEBsw There's a rough transcript at http://ecatnews.com/?p=2291 Photo of some attendees and ID's ... including Alexandros Xanthoulis (Defkalion GT

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
That is exciting! It seems everyone is in Austin this week. I wish I could have gone but I have to prepare for ICCF17. It seems they will all be there next week. That is good report by Krivit. If he had only left out the B.S. about opposition to Ni-H research it would have been better. As far as

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: As far as I know, the first person to advocate the use of nickel was Martin Fleischmann, FRS. The reason he was interested is obvious. Early on he estimated how much energy can be produced with palladium, given the total world stocks and mining output. as I recall he determined that

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Jones Beene
Notice the last comment ... ... she's [sic] back -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/08/07/lenr-gets-major-boost-from-national-instruments/

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-07 10:55, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Update from 22passi from Celani himself (Passerini contacted him by phone): Google translated, Google shortened link to the blogpost: http://goo.gl/v4Opj Short summary - Celani's demo reactor was turned on for about 6 hours before

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Jones Beene
Well - vortex may have played a part, behind the scenes, in this work. Why? The first paragraph of Celani's paper mentions the Romanowski paper and the Constantan alloy he is using. As to how that gets back to this us - it was first mentioned about a year ago, see:

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-07 20:09, Jones Beene wrote: There is no beta or gamma radiation happening with the excess energy at all. This is NOT a nuclear reaction. They did observe X rays (and/or gamma emission) under certain conditions however (see section IV.23, page 4). Cheers S.A.

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
attention... -Mark Iverson -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:10 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012 Well - vortex may have played a part, behind the scenes, in this work. Why

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:10 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012 Well - vortex may have played a part, behind the scenes, in this work. Why? The first paragraph of Celani's paper mentions the Romanowski paper and the Constantan

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, thanks for setting the record straight on that point. I tend to get a bit carried away in having to continually make the point that the excess energy in this reaction is not nuclear to an overwhelming degree. Small amounts of radiation are seen, often on startup. The radiation is seldom

RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012 So it wasn’t Colonel Mustard with the lead pipe, but the Polish Alloyist with the Constantin wire! :-) And the first Clue

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Alain Sepeda
No a good conclusion. it can be nuclear without externally visible radiation. Raduation can be stopped (alpha , beta), and phonons could dissipate energy too. neutrons could be slow and undetectable, charged particles could be easily stopped... let's dont fall in the initial error to apply old

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Robert Lynn
Nice to see some positive results coming in from someone who is prepared to share their results. Any word on temperature of reaction? On 7 August 2012 09:55, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello group, This new blogpost by Steven Krivit is certainly worth a read. It's about

Re: [Vo]:Celani's Ni-H demo at NIWeek2012

2012-08-07 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 7, 2012 à 12:45 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com a écrit : No a good conclusion. it can be nuclear without externally visible radiation. Raduation can be stopped (alpha , beta), and phonons could dissipate energy too. neutrons could be slow and undetectable, charged particles