RE: [Vo]:Tel Aviv Superconductor- Levitation

2011-10-18 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Ron,

 

Here is the page from Tel Aviv University:

 

http://www.tau.ac.il/~supercon/

 

It is likely that the white disc is a composite sandwich of materials which
is mostly (90%) merely a thermal insulator - possibly a white cloth or foam
of some kind holding a 'supply' of LN for an extended time of operation. You
can see a layer of the cloth which has become loosened in the video. Y123 is
very dark in color as you know.

 

Since the Group claims to specialize in making high quality 2-3 dia YBCO
wafers, which are deposited on top of Sapphire in thin layers we can assume
that the 'real' disc is thin and seen at the bottom, and most of the
apparent volume which is seen is the white insulator material, giving the
appearance of much more mass than is there in actuality. Since the mass is
low the angular momentum problems are minimal at low speed.

 

In addition - and most importantly - they claim to deposit the thing films
at different crystallographic orientations, and with doping. This could
provide the properties that give the unusual departure from normal flux
pinning. 

 

Quote: Recent work, showed the possibility of making atomically flat a-axis
grain of YBCO grown on top c-axis films . this means to me that the Y123 is
oriented in perpendicular regions on top of each other to provide the kind
of stability which is seen. 

 

Jones

 

 

From: Ron Kita 
Subject: [Vo]:Tel Aviv Superconductor- Levitation

 

Greetings Vortex,

 

I haven t had a chance look for the  superconductor material used in the
levitation video,

but it seems like this is not the usual flux pinning as experienced by
1-2-3 SC materials:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_pinning

 

Ron Kita, Chiralex

 

Few people realize that when one spins a symmetical magnet as a ring magnet-

the flux lines remain stationary in space. This is the principle of the One
Piece Farady Homopolar Generator.



Re: [Vo]:Tel Aviv Superconductor- Levitation

2011-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:


 Here is the page from Tel Aviv University:

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 http://www.tau.ac.il/~supercon/

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 It is likely that the white disc is a composite sandwich of materials which
 is mostly (90%) merely a thermal insulator - possibly a white cloth or foam
 of some kind holding a 'supply' of LN for an extended time of operation.


I thought it was solid nitrogen. I thought the person asking questions
referred to it as liquid nitrogen out of force of habit, but he meant
solid. I have seen solids which were referred to as nitrogen, looking like
dry ice (solid CO2).

Wikipedia sez:

Liquid nitrogen can easily be converted to the solid by placing it in a
vacuum chamber pumped by a rotary vacuum pump. Liquid nitrogen freezes at 63
K (-210 °C; -346 °F).

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Tel Aviv Superconductor- Levitation

2011-10-18 Thread Jones Beene
I was only guessing. Jeff Driscoll found the answer in these videos

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyOtIsnG71U 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyOtIsnG71Ufeature=related feature=related

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lmtbLu5nxw 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lmtbLu5nxwfeature=related feature=related

It looks like they took a thin sapphire disk of the sputtered Y123, added a 
disk of solid nitrogen on top and wrapped it in a clear film – which then fogs 
up to make it appear to be cloth.

 

Very clever … but the real science is in the crystal alignment and doping of 
the thin films.

 

Jones

 

 

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell 

 

I thought it was solid nitrogen. I thought the person asking questions referred 
to it as liquid nitrogen out of force of habit, but he meant solid. I have 
seen solids which were referred to as nitrogen, looking like dry ice (solid 
CO2).

 

Wikipedia sez: 

Liquid nitrogen can easily be converted to the solid by placing it in a vacuum 
chamber pumped by a rotary vacuum pump. Liquid nitrogen freezes at 63 K (−210 
°C; −346 °F).

- Jed

 



Re: [Vo]:Tel Aviv Superconductor- Levitation

2011-10-18 Thread fznidarsic
I have done experiments with flux pinning and 123 superconductor myself. Pick 
the green projector on page 3 to view.


http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter4.html#Pg3


The rf coils release the flux pinning seen below.
The 123 material goes through its transition temp withing seconds from
being removed from the nitrogen bath.


enjoy


Frank Z







 


Re: [Vo]:Tel Aviv Superconductor- Levitation

2011-10-18 Thread fznidarsic
The amazing thing about flux pinning and flux release is what is learned from a 
superconductor can be applied to the atomic spectrum and to cold fusion.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389211006092




Frank Z



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Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tel Aviv Superconductor- Levitation


I have done experiments with flux pinning and 123 superconductor myself. Pick 
the green projector on page 3 to view.


http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter4.html#Pg3


The rf coils release the flux pinning seen below.
The 123 material goes through its transition temp withing seconds from
being removed from the nitrogen bath.


enjoy


Frank Z