Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: whereas if the 1992 Thermacore tests had continued they would have convinced everyone by 1994. It's really not intended to convince anyone, but to establish a track record useful in what could be a major patent battle. Even if that was not the intention I think it could have

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed Wrote: snip Researchers can never come close to imagining the optimum configuration for the real world. What is worse for the first movers who introduce a product, as soon as they begin selling, competitors race to develop better versions, and their job is made much easier because they

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Didn't the Patterson cell suffer from Dr. Jekyll syndrome? That is, they had one (1) batch of beads which worked, and they didn't realize until they'd used them up that there was something funny about that batch -- no other batch of beads ever behaved the same way,

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-06 Thread Grimer
At 07:35 pm 05-05-05 -0400, you wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote: By 1971 integrated circuits were already one of the largest industries on earth. Indeed. The HP35 scientific calculator was introduced when I was a sophomore at GaTech in 1973. It cost $635. I got my lab to buy me one

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-06 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Grimer wrote: At 07:35 pm 05-05-05 -0400, you wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote: By 1971 integrated circuits were already one of the largest industries on earth. Indeed. The HP35 scientific calculator was introduced when I was a sophomore at GaTech in 1973. It cost $635. I got

Re: Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-06 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember speculation that HP might conceivably introduce a version of the 55 which used core memory so it could retain its programs across power-offs, but of course core was already a dead-ended technology at that point. Wanna bet?

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: Let's see: Mills has published his book and updated it periodically. He has sponsored experimental work at universities and reputable laboratories before acquiring the present property. He has posted detailed reports on a long series of experiemts on his website. He has

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: snip Ditto claims by Mills and Correa. As far as I know, the only anomalous energy claim that has claimed any scientific basis in conventional theory is cold fusion. Of course many people disagree, but Hagelstein and others believe it can be explained with textbook

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: Jed was not paying close enough attention then or now. Mills abandoned electrolytic cells because he could not get a high enough energy density. I realize that is what he said. His target then was utility boilers. That target is insanity squared. It reminds of the old Bob

RE: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread Zell, Chris
: Re: Jed about Mills Jed wrote: snip Ditto claims by Mills and Correa. As far as I know, the only anomalous energy claim that has claimed any scientific basis in conventional theory is cold fusion. Of course many people disagree, but Hagelstein and others believe it can

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: Mike Carrell wrote: Jed was not paying close enough attention then or now. Mills abandoned electrolytic cells because he could not get a high enough energy density. I realize that is what he said. His target then was utility boilers. That target is insanity squared. It

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread orionworks
From: Mike Carrell ... As I recall, the first integrated circuits did not cause much of a stir, because the computer market at the time had accomodated to the idea of cards with a few gates or flip-flops on it. The Army was investing heavy bucks inthe micromod program, which used stacks of

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, I recently read a fascinating book that described the history of the chip. How it came into being. Based on what I read much of what Mr. Carrell has had to say on this subject appears to be pretty accurate. Believe me, he got it wrong. I have not

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread orionworks
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... For what it's worth, I recently read a fascinating book that described the history of the chip. How it came into being. Based on what I read much of what Mr. Carrell has had to say on this subject appears to be pretty accurate. PS: Vorts! Humor me for a

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread Mitchell Swartz
At 04:54 PM 5/5/2005, Rothwell wrote: There have been no LENR demos! Demos may not even be possible. Utter nonsense. JET Thermal Products gave an open demonstration of a robust cold fusion Phusor system at MIT for a week at ICCF10. John Dash also gave a demonstration on that Tuesday. But

Re: Jed about Mills

2005-05-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Jed Rothwell wrote: By 1971 integrated circuits were already one of the largest industries on earth. Indeed. The HP35 scientific calculator was introduced when I was a sophomore at GaTech in 1973. It cost $635.