[vox-tech] Wierd character in the Installfest RSVP

2004-01-12 Thread Ken Bloom
I've noticed a really wierd character in the Installfest RSVPs, for Pentium 4 RSVPs (I'm using mutt on my virtual consoles, and it looks like the character you would use to indicate the presence of a space if you needed to exactly show every space) The character appears right in the middle of the

Re: [vox-tech] Wierd character in the Installfest RSVP

2004-01-12 Thread Ken Bloom
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 12:05:26AM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote: I've noticed a really wierd character in the Installfest RSVPs, for Pentium 4 RSVPs (I'm using mutt on my virtual consoles, and it looks like the character you would use to indicate the presence of a space if you needed to exactly show

[vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Bill Kendrick
Okay, I had a feeling this would be asked, but I didn't realize it would only take a few DAYS for someone to ask it... :^) Is there an easy, safe way to let people SSH out of a kiosk (e.g., the one I set up in Chamonix over the weekend)? e.g., for folks who prefer to connect to their ISP (or

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 12 January 2004 02:25 pm, Bill Kendrick nbs-at-sonic.net |lugod| wrote: Okay, I had a feeling this would be asked, but I didn't realize it would only take a few DAYS for someone to ask it... :^) Is there an easy, safe way to let people

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 02:37:41PM -0800, Ryan wrote: You could SSH to localhost, couldn't you? True, but unless the user knew the account name (e.g., root or guest) and the password (neither of which are blank or easy-to-guess, obviously), then they couldn't get in that way. I assume Debian

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Ken Herron
--On Monday, January 12, 2004 14:42:48 -0800 Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: user='foo' host='bar `xterm`' xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will pop up an xterm running ssh, and once you log in an xterm running bash :-) That's a good one to be afraid of. I'm sure there's some shell magic

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Ken Bloom
On 2004.01.12 14:25, Bill Kendrick wrote: Okay, I had a feeling this would be asked, but I didn't realize it would only take a few DAYS for someone to ask it... :^) Is there an easy, safe way to let people SSH out of a kiosk (e.g., the one I set up in Chamonix over the weekend)? e.g., for folks

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 03:06:50PM -0800, Ken Herron wrote: Your best bet might be to avoid sh altogether and use perl, c, or something like that: #!/usr/bin/perl -w print Host: ; my $host = STDIN; chomp $host; print Username: ; my $user = STDIN; chomp

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Bill Kendrick
Is there anyhting 'bad' people can do from the menus in Xterm? (e.g., Ctrl+click, +middle-click and +right-click)? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Ken Herron
--On Monday, January 12, 2004 16:58:43 -0800 Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyhting 'bad' people can do from the menus in Xterm? (e.g., Ctrl+click, +middle-click and +right-click)? The worst I could find offhand is that the user might be able to try to print things and/or

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 06:41:59PM -0800, ME wrote: Anyone with the lack of understanding of risk to use of a public station to ssh to another box is dancing with the devil. (Condemnation of users who would actually use ssh on untrusted machines.) Good point. I'm working on a sheet that will

[vox-tech] linux machine for grandma

2004-01-12 Thread Dave Margolis
Hello, I'm setting up an e-mail station for my mother-in-law. What I'm looking for is ease of use. Here's what I have: antiquated compaq laptop (amd-k6-2 366, 160mb, 6gb, cdrom, floppy) slackware 9.1, kde 3.1.4 (very slim with most features turned off) I used KDE's convenience menu to enable

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 06:41:59PM -0800, ME wrote: Anyone with the lack of understanding of risk to use of a public station to ssh to another box is dancing with the devil. (Condemnation of users who would actually use ssh on untrusted machines.)

Re: [vox-tech] linux machine for grandma

2004-01-12 Thread Dave Margolis
well, 'lacking' is really the wrong word. with all the thread support and some of the other neater features, it didn't originally seem to fit my e-mail-for-dummies requirements. i've been going back and forth between them today. the interfaces are very similar (and kmail has more options as far

Re: [vox-tech] Providing access to SSH on Kiosk?

2004-01-12 Thread ME
Bill Kendrick said: On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 06:41:59PM -0800, ME wrote: Once I'm done toying with the system, I'll disable SSH connections into the box, as a precaution. (Right now, I can get to it from my laptop when I'm in the cafe, which is useful for admin testing while other people use