Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-13 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:53 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: Are there currently any plans for simplifying the situation regarding build systems? I haven't seen any threads for a while, which I assume means no. Is there any low hanging fruit out there? Since many of the build systems are little

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-13 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Maciej, On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:53 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: Are there currently any plans for simplifying the situation regarding build systems? I haven't seen any threads for a while, which I assume means no. Is there any low

[webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread Jeremy Orlow
Are there currently any plans for simplifying the situation regarding build systems? I haven't seen any threads for a while, which I assume means no. Is there any low hanging fruit out there? Since many of the build systems are little more than lists of files, it really seems like we should be

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread Dumitru Daniliuc
In addition, has anyone ever looked at simplifying the mac port's xcode project? It's _by far_ the heaviest burden on the project given that you pretty much need to use xcode (which is mac only...no other port requires this), exported linker symbols are in a separate file, extra effort to

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread David Kilzer
On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Dumitru Daniliuc d...@chromium.org wrote: i completely agree with jeremy. is it possible to at least drop the cryptic hashcodes/timestamps? without them, the .xcodeproj files should at least be editable by hand. Doesn't gyp already generate Xcode projects for

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:18 AM, David Kilzer ddkil...@webkit.org wrote: On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Dumitru Daniliuc d...@chromium.org wrote: i completely agree with jeremy. is it possible to at least drop the cryptic hashcodes/timestamps? without them, the .xcodeproj files should at

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread Jeremy Orlow
Let me re-iterate (because even some co-workers are getting confused): I'm not secretly trying to get the mac port to start using GYP. (Or saying it's a bad idea either, mind you.) I'm just concerned that the process associated with adding a file (or adding a dependency between projects on the

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Jeremy, On Aug 12, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:18 AM, David Kilzer ddkil...@webkit.org wrote: On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Dumitru Daniliuc d...@chromium.org wrote: i completely agree with jeremy. is it possible to at least drop the cryptic

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Barth
Eric and I discussed this recently. We think the easiest path forward is to try to remove build systems incrementally. Each build system we remove makes it easier to hack on the project because you have one less build system to worry about. The easiest build system to remove is probably the

Re: [webkit-dev] Build system complexity

2010-08-12 Thread Ojan Vafai
An added benefit of removing the VS build system first would be that we'd be able to build using VS2005 or VS2008. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: Eric and I discussed this recently. We think the easiest path forward is to try to remove build systems