Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)

2020-03-01 Thread Noam Rosenthal
> > > The first visually non-empty milestone almost always happens way before > this point. The above is just a fallback to make sure we eventually hit > this milestone. For example, if a document is totally blank even after > loading the document and all subresources, we want to paint it instead

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)

2020-03-01 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > > The first visually non-empty milestone almost always happens way before this > point. The above is just a fallback to make sure we eventually hit this > milestone. For example, if a document is totally blank even after loading the >

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)

2020-03-01 Thread Noam Rosenthal
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:21 AM Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > >> The first visually non-empty milestone almost always happens way before >> this point. The above is just a fallback to make sure we eventually hit >> this milestone. For

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)

2020-03-01 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:21 AM Maciej Stachowiak > wrote: > > >> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Noam Rosenthal > > wrote: >> >> >> The first visually non-empty milestone almost

Re: [webkit-dev] Proposal for an "intent to" process for web-exposed features

2020-03-01 Thread Yoav Weiss
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 6:24 PM Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > I think we should have some structure, not just freeform emails. We can > start with a simple template, but there’s some info that folks almost > always want, so it’s easier if it’s included in the first place, rather > than needing

Re: [webkit-dev] Proposal: add Privacy to WebKit Project Goals

2020-03-01 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
New version, with Oxford comma everywhere. I didn’t add the use of “itself” because I don’t think the sentence is ambiguous as written, given the second clause. And if it is ambiguous, “itself” would not remove the ambiguity. Below the diff, there’s the full text of the page as it would appear

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)

2020-03-01 Thread Noam Rosenthal
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:18 AM Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:21 AM Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> >> >> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Noam Rosenthal wrote: >> >> >>> The first visually non-empty milestone almost

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)

2020-03-01 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Noam Rosenthal wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:18 AM Maciej Stachowiak > wrote: > > >> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Noam Rosenthal > > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:21 AM Maciej

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)

2020-03-01 Thread Noam Rosenthal
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:37 AM Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Noam Rosenthal wrote: > OK, to summarize what I got from this > - we want the spec and webkit painting to be as close as possible > - The spec needs to be clearer/less buggy about a few things, such as >