Re: RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-05 Thread Nik
Narayan, On 6:59 AM, Narayan Aras wrote: Hi Nik 1. The website project has no graphic designer on board-why? By your logic, everyone else has time to be part of every other list. Their time is expendable, yours is precious right? Tell me, how many lists are you a part of? Do you practice what

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Bernhard, First, thanks for the level-toned and opinion-free response. If your expert doesn't want to be involved in discussions and proposals with experts and community members from other parts of the LibO community, his work can't be more than a proposal, perhaps used as starting

Re: RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Nik
Hi Narayan, (and the Website team! even of most of this isn't relevant to you) Forgive me for top-posting, but Ivan was kind enough to address all your concerns in turn. My name is Nikash, I'm on the Design list. I used to be on the website list also, but recently, the website list has a

Re: RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread David Nelson
Hi guys, :-) I'm watching the discussion. Looking at all that's been said, I think it's time for me to take a back seat and leave you guys to lead the way in a different direction to what I'd suggested. I'll be there if you need me to do work on content, but I'll wait for you to make a specific

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Nik 1. The website project has no graphic designer on board-why? 2. There is no planned wireframe/icons for home page, and other sets of pages- why? 2. We raced against launch date, missed it and still no graphic inputs-why? Don't you think someone from your team had to contribute? If a

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Italo Vignoli
Narayan Aras wrote: First, I am NOT alone in looking for a graphic designer. Don't attack people - Move the discussion in the right direction. Suggest a solution. Help us solve this. As SC-member, what do you suggest? What will you do to move things? Sorry to state the following, you are a

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Bernhard, I am sorry to see you take that extreme hardline approach. Can I count on you to have your normal even-keeled approach? :) I think you understand that my post pointed out the lack of resource- not to hurt anyone's professional pride in designing or managing. I do hope we do not

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Mike Houben
Hi all, sorry for my late input, but University was more important at the moment. Am 04.02.2011 um 11:32 schrieb Narayan Aras: Hi Nik 1. The website project has no graphic designer on board-why? Sorry, what am I? I'm on the Design Team and I'm a Designer. Sooo no is a lie. 2. There is

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Mike Houben
Again hello, this came in a little bit tooo late ;) Am 04.02.2011 um 13:30 schrieb Narayan Aras: [...] On one hand you say there are no free resources for the website. On the other hand you reject the idea of someone doing that work. What timeframe do you set for the website job,

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Narayan, Narayan Aras schrieb: Hi Bernhard, I am sorry to see you take that extreme hardline approach. You don't understand, why I reacted this way? We are the LibreOffice community - people who spend many hours of their spare time (during the last months quite too many hours) to make

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Nino Novak
On Friday 04 February 2011 14:07, Italo Vignoli wrote: Mike Houben wrote: http://www.ideactionmedia.com/IdeactionMedia.html http://www.dokimos.org/ajff/ (My personal Favorite) http://www.arngren.net/ http://www.partytentcity.com/ You made my day +1 *LOL* Nino -- Unsubscribe

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Nino Novak schrieb: On Friday 04 February 2011 14:07, Italo Vignoli wrote: Mike Houben wrote: http://www.ideactionmedia.com/IdeactionMedia.html http://www.dokimos.org/ajff/ (My personal Favorite) http://www.arngren.net/ http://www.partytentcity.com/ You made my day +1 *LOL* These pages

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-04 Thread Narayan Aras
think of reasons why this CAN be done. :) Thanks for your understanding in advance. Narayan Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:51:07 +0100 From: bernh...@familie-dippold.at To: website@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website devsitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-03 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Narayan, David, all, Sorry for not jumping in earlier; I have been busy with travel, work, etc these past few days. It seems we have another long discussion on our hands :). I'd just like to respond to Narayan's comments with my perspective/take. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Narayan Aras

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-03 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Ivan, After all, we are NOT screening a thousand contenders to select the lucky winner. So why do you feel this compulsion to get the designer approved by the Design team? I wanted to bring a designer strictly one time; only for the website work (not on permanent basis). He

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-03 Thread Mike Houben
Only a little answer, i'm having not much time. (preparation for fosdem and other things) Am 03.02.2011 um 12:54 schrieb Narayan Aras: Hi Ivan, After all, we are NOT screening a thousand contenders to select the lucky winner. So why do you feel this compulsion to get the designer

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-03 Thread David Nelson
Hi Christoph, :-) On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 00:04, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: For the present, you need to take account of the fact that work on the website is currently being led by a four-person team: myself for content, Ivan and Christoph as regards design (CSS, graphics),

Website Tasks (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages])

2011-02-03 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Ivan, you acted as some kind of reminder ;-) Am Donnerstag, den 03.02.2011, 23:43 +1300 schrieb Ivan M.: Can we please work on the *current* website in the short-term - we need people to work on the *current* website *now* (e.g. contribute to the CSS styles effort). Later on we can talk

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02

2011-02-03 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi David, all, thank you very much for this detailed description. It allows us to understand your goals much better than in the past. Sorry, that my reply can't be shorter... David Nelson schrieb: Hi Narayan, Wheatbix, Houbsi, guys, :-) ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS AND SHARED GOALS

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-03 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Narayan, all, *short version:* Thanks for proposing a web design expert to provide his knowledge and expertise to LibreOffice. Like mentioned by others it might be hard for an external expert to learn about the needs and preconditions in our community being the prerequisite for any

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-03 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Christoph, Well, I think Italo already outlined it quite well - anybody will welcome any contribution as long as it fits in the broader picture. And if not, others can simply pick the provided material and tweak it until it fits. If we don't succeed, well, then there is a little chance

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-02 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi David, From: comme...@traduction.biz Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:32:56 +0800 @Narayan: I understand very well your thoughts and attitudes about involving that talented graphic designer contact of yours. I also see the need to someone to work closely with us on graphics and page

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: At that time, LibO will have a decent website to fulfill needs for the next few months, and those of you with those radically-different, imaginative, creative visions can develop them at leisure for presentation to

Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-02 Thread David Nelson
Hi Narayan, Mike, :-) For the present, you need to take account of the fact that work on the website is currently being led by a four-person team: myself for content, Ivan and Christoph as regards design (CSS, graphics), and Christian. Therefore, these people have to be in agreement about the

RE: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the Why? pages]

2011-02-02 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi David, From: comme...@traduction.biz For the present, you need to take account of the fact that work on the website is currently being led by a four-person team: myself for content, Ivan and Christoph as regards design (CSS, graphics), and Christian. Therefore, these people have to be