[libreoffice-website] Redesigning the website

2013-11-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello,

The time has come for us to work on a new and improved web site for 
LibreOffice. 
While it served us well for several years already, it has also shown some 
downsides and people tend to complain more. 

Because of this the board has decided to start a website redesign project and 
as such the first thing that needs to be clarified is to define the scope of 
this website redesign.

Technically speaking we will continue using our SilverStripe platform; we won't 
pick a new CMS (they are more or less the same for what needs to be done).
We will not be targetting any of the current development and communications 
platforms: gerrit, git repos, the wiki, the mailing lists etc. fall out of the 
scope of our discussion.
For practical reasons, so do the templates and the extensions sites. 

What needs to be redesigned then falls under three categories:

* the design itself (understand: the theme, the general look of the website)
* the content. We may  reuse some of it as there are certainly some good bits 
available, but we will also reorganize the way we think about the general 
presentation of the website. In this regard the discussion about how to engage 
users  to the LibreOffice community and the resulting survey that has just been 
launched will help on this matter. But we obviously need to think about the 
landing page. 
* while the technical bits themselves are not covered for this specific aspect, 
we would need to think about the whole download experience and the download 
page itself.

Requirements: that's the nice part :-)
- we will have a test environment with a SilverStripe instance to build out the 
website. 
- designers are welcome: this will be a key part of the project. The
  board has published a job posting on this a few days ago. 

General comments:
This redesign is very much an end-user focused initiative and as such a 
marketing need. I must stress again that this isn't a project where we decided 
to overhaul the online development and collaborative work tools. This is rather 
the opportunity to develop a nice looking, clear front facing website for 
LibreOffice. Another element that should not be forgotten is to make sure the 
Native-Lang communities are not forgotten and are included in this redesign. 

I'm happy to work not just Christian Lohmaier here but with everyone who'd like 
to help. 

Thanks!

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[libreoffice-website] New requirements BSA

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Snelders

Hi All,

I am busy with updating the BSA so it uses the XMLRPC-interface for 
getting information from Bugzilla in stead of interpeting the HTML-source.


But to be able to build via the new scripts we need the perl-components 
XMLRPC::Lite and HTML::Template installed on kermit. Can this be installed?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redesigning the website

2013-11-06 Thread Olav Dahlum
Excellent news. I look forward to this, but we should try to have a uniform
presentation of the content this time, so preferably translations of the
English text in Pootle...
6. nov. 2013 16:57 skrev Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org følgende:

 Hello,

 The time has come for us to work on a new and improved web site for
 LibreOffice.
 While it served us well for several years already, it has also shown some
 downsides and people tend to complain more.

 Because of this the board has decided to start a website redesign project
 and as such the first thing that needs to be clarified is to define the
 scope of this website redesign.

 Technically speaking we will continue using our SilverStripe platform; we
 won't pick a new CMS (they are more or less the same for what needs to be
 done).
 We will not be targetting any of the current development and
 communications platforms: gerrit, git repos, the wiki, the mailing lists
 etc. fall out of the scope of our discussion.
 For practical reasons, so do the templates and the extensions sites.

 What needs to be redesigned then falls under three categories:

 * the design itself (understand: the theme, the general look of the
 website)
 * the content. We may  reuse some of it as there are certainly some good
 bits available, but we will also reorganize the way we think about the
 general presentation of the website. In this regard the discussion about
 how to engage users  to the LibreOffice community and the resulting survey
 that has just been launched will help on this matter. But we obviously need
 to think about the landing page.
 * while the technical bits themselves are not covered for this specific
 aspect, we would need to think about the whole download experience and the
 download page itself.

 Requirements: that's the nice part :-)
 - we will have a test environment with a SilverStripe instance to build
 out the website.
 - designers are welcome: this will be a key part of the project. The
   board has published a job posting on this a few days ago.

 General comments:
 This redesign is very much an end-user focused initiative and as such a
 marketing need. I must stress again that this isn't a project where we
 decided to overhaul the online development and collaborative work tools.
 This is rather the opportunity to develop a nice looking, clear front
 facing website for LibreOffice. Another element that should not be
 forgotten is to make sure the Native-Lang communities are not forgotten and
 are included in this redesign.

 I'm happy to work not just Christian Lohmaier here but with everyone who'd
 like to help.

 Thanks!

 --
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 Co-founder, The Document Foundation,
 Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin
 Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
 Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
 Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] Redesigning the website

2013-11-06 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
 Excellent news. I look forward to this, but we should try to have a
uniform
 presentation of the content this time, so preferably translations of the
 English text in Pootle...

+1 to Pootle translations and presentation uniformity
And, maybe, a side bar for local team content

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Re: [libreoffice-website] New requirements BSA

2013-11-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Rob,

Rob Snelders wrote on 2013-11-06 17:34:


I am busy with updating the BSA so it uses the XMLRPC-interface for
getting information from Bugzilla in stead of interpeting the HTML-source.


thanks a lot for your work on this!


But to be able to build via the new scripts we need the perl-components
XMLRPC::Lite and HTML::Template installed on kermit. Can this be installed?


I checked what those could be, as I am no Perl expert. :-) For 
HTML::Template I find several packages: 
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precisesection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=libhtml-template


Do you know which one it is, or do you know of any file that is in it, 
so I can identify the respective package?


For XMLRPC::Lite I didn't find any package so far - can you also tell me 
a file that is included, so I see which package it could be?


Thanks,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redesigning the website

2013-11-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Olav, Daniel,

(This thread shall continue exclusively on the website list).

Le Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:13:50 +0100,
Olav Dahlum odah...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Excellent news. I look forward to this, but we should try to have a
 uniform presentation of the content this time, so preferably
 translations of the English text in Pootle...

I do not believe (maybe it's possible) that even with uniform
presentations one could use Pootle for automatic translations here. I
also believe that to some extent it might not be desirable. While a
large part of the content should remain the same (hey, we're talking
about the same thing!) there might be cultural or contextual
differences from one language to another. Nothing in particular comes
to my mind in this regard at the moment, but you never know. 

Thank you for the kind words,

Charles. 


 6. nov. 2013 16:57 skrev Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org følgende:
 
  Hello,
 
  The time has come for us to work on a new and improved web site for
  LibreOffice.
  While it served us well for several years already, it has also
  shown some downsides and people tend to complain more.
 
  Because of this the board has decided to start a website redesign
  project and as such the first thing that needs to be clarified is
  to define the scope of this website redesign.
 
  Technically speaking we will continue using our SilverStripe
  platform; we won't pick a new CMS (they are more or less the same
  for what needs to be done).
  We will not be targetting any of the current development and
  communications platforms: gerrit, git repos, the wiki, the mailing
  lists etc. fall out of the scope of our discussion.
  For practical reasons, so do the templates and the extensions sites.
 
  What needs to be redesigned then falls under three categories:
 
  * the design itself (understand: the theme, the general look of
  the website)
  * the content. We may  reuse some of it as there are certainly some
  good bits available, but we will also reorganize the way we think
  about the general presentation of the website. In this regard the
  discussion about how to engage users  to the LibreOffice community
  and the resulting survey that has just been launched will help on
  this matter. But we obviously need to think about the landing page.
  * while the technical bits themselves are not covered for this
  specific aspect, we would need to think about the whole download
  experience and the download page itself.
 
  Requirements: that's the nice part :-)
  - we will have a test environment with a SilverStripe instance to
  build out the website.
  - designers are welcome: this will be a key part of the project. The
board has published a job posting on this a few days ago.
 
  General comments:
  This redesign is very much an end-user focused initiative and as
  such a marketing need. I must stress again that this isn't a
  project where we decided to overhaul the online development and
  collaborative work tools. This is rather the opportunity to develop
  a nice looking, clear front facing website for LibreOffice. Another
  element that should not be forgotten is to make sure the
  Native-Lang communities are not forgotten and are included in this
  redesign.
 
  I'm happy to work not just Christian Lohmaier here but with
  everyone who'd like to help.
 
  Thanks!
 
  --
  Charles-H. Schulz
  Co-founder, The Document Foundation,
  Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin
  Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
  Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
  Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.
 
 
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] New requirements BSA

2013-11-06 Thread Rob Snelders

Hi,

I installed the following patches on my Ubuntu-machine:
- libhtml-template-perl
- libsoap-lite-perl

Thanks,
Rob Snelders

Florian Effenberger schreef op 06-11-2013 23:53:

Hi Rob,

Rob Snelders wrote on 2013-11-06 17:34:


I am busy with updating the BSA so it uses the XMLRPC-interface for
getting information from Bugzilla in stead of interpeting the 
HTML-source.


thanks a lot for your work on this!

But to be able to build via the new scripts we need the 
perl-components
XMLRPC::Lite and HTML::Template installed on kermit. Can this be 
installed?


I checked what those could be, as I am no Perl expert. :-) For
HTML::Template I find several packages:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precisesection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=libhtml-template

Do you know which one it is, or do you know of any file that is in it,
so I can identify the respective package?

For XMLRPC::Lite I didn't find any package so far - can you also tell
me a file that is included, so I see which package it could be?

Thanks,
Florian
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