Matt Feifarek wrote:
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FormKit is not really actively maintained either.
Is this sort of thing passe at this point? What approach is up to date?
As one of the two authors of FK, I can
Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
michelts wrote:
I done some corrections on the FEComponent (to do form validation with
formencode), I will upload all these stuff to the svn tree ok?
You should probably ask Ian Bicking about FEComponent. But anyway I have
just tagged the current FEComponent
there's anyone hanging out there now.
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Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated
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Wheeler, Richard wrote:
Why not parse the python code fragments before executing them and insert a
check for a stop event in the beginning of each loop. It could even force a
loop counter of some type that would allow the main thread to force the
worker thread to stop processing through a
is generally good or not --
per-thread connections seem a bit safer and otherwise just as good.
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Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
Ian Bicking wrote:
In theory it should work; loading from zips is implemented with
ihooks. But it requires that any added ihook defer to existing
ihooks, and if it is doing file lookup it needs to use the
PEP-specified technique.
Are you refering to PEP 302
Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
Ian Bicking wrote:
One thing that's been discussed is simply dropping the ihooks part --
polling sys.modules for changed modules works without any tricks.
(Of course, you can also turn off installing of zip files, and install
the unpacked egg -- this gives you
a separate issue). You can get a
basic layout with:
paster create --template=webkit NewApplication
cd NewApplication
paster serve docs/devel_config.ini
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(instead of inetd), and it seems to be working now.
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The commit list isn't on there, though.
I suppose you liked to tease the animals in the zoo when you were a kid,
too. ;-)
Won't svn log give you the whole list? That's better than an archive,
it seems... except no inline diffs.
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It's relatively easy to add other lists as well (I figure there's
better ways to get the checkin history, so those aren't archived)
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This announces the 0.2 release of ZPTKit. ZPTKit helps make Zope Page
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Changes in 0.2
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with htmlfill.
But anyway, it looks pretty easy to use, and I like parseDocument is
very output-neutral. It would be good to get this in a public
repository. I can't remember if I ever set you up with svn access for
FormEncode? This could also go in svn.w4py.org.
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FancyValidator has a to_python method.
.to_python() is the public API; FancyValidator adds some things like
ifEmpty, notEmpty, and ifInvalid to that, and calls ._to_python() to do
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(r2536) that reuse templates much more actively. I think I can actually
rip out large parts of templatetools and zptcomponent, but I just made
the minimal changes for now.
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little crude; it's more elegant if the entire page went through
htmlfill. Of course, it'd be even more efficient if ZPT's internal
structure (since it must have some structure for the tags) wasn't
serialized into text until after htmlfill (or an equivalent) did its job.
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getting a 404 from this URL:
The package could be found in http://www.ebanda.com.br/fecomonent.tgz,
there is the component itself, a formpage (like the ZPTPage on the
zptkit example) and a Test.py, this is a servlet using the
fecomponent...
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it in
sleepEvent -- unfortunately you can't really attach a property to
another class, just due to the nature of Python descriptors.
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On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 03:33 -0500, Ian Bicking wrote:
I've finished a simple tutorial on how to use WSGIKit to build a simple
to-do application. You can find it at:
Ian,
Thanks for that - if you have any spare time, could you also do a
version of a similar tutorial
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return p.not_found(environ, start_response)
environ['app.user'] = username
environ['SCRIPT_NAME'] += '/' + username
environ['PATH_INFO'] = rest
return p(environ, start_response)
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avoiding hovering at 0.X.
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I'm happy to release ZPTKit 0.1. ZPTKit helps make Zope Page
Templates easy and reliable to use with Webware.
Homepage:
http://imagescape.com/software/ZPTKit/
Download:
http://imagescape.com/software/ZPTKit/ZPTKit-0.1.tar.gz
Source repository:
http://svn.webwareforpython.org/ZPTKit/trunk
, I'm
guessing it's being served with a different mime type in Webware -- look
at the standard Python mimetypes library for information on registering
the type of .htc files. (You can do the registration in your context's
__init__.py)
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This release is actually spurred by a package I'll be releasing that
depends on Component, and I feel silly giving that package a release and
version number when it depends on something without a release or version.
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, reasonably scalable shared session. And we all have
databases of one sort or another (at least if we're worried about this
kind of scaling), so it seems like an easy solution. SessionFileStore
would probably be the simplest example to base this on.
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to the PyCon WSGIKit sprint -- heck, maybe SkunkWeb
already is a WSGI server, I haven't checked). You'd still have to make
changes to your application if it's using any threaded assumptions (like
storing global state in global variable).
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meaningful alternate implementations that provide some benefit on that
end, while providing the same interface on the other end.
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at the
moment. I expect it will be... I'll give another shout out to the
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am. Very frustrating. I don't think I've had any problems related to
.pyc files, though -- though if your clock is screwy that could
certainly happen (since .pyc files are compared to the .py files by
modification date).
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is just a
package with a per-instance installation script, do the instances have
to conform to policy? I'm not sure.
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' in Application.config, and
also removing it from 'FilesToIgnore', but that just sends the .pyc
file directly to the browser.
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only server .py files (leaving UnknownFileServletFactory to serve .pyc
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. I'd find that tedious, but if you are
going to write custom SQL then I'm sure that's a helpful way to organize
the SQL. It's a lot different from Python ORMs, and I think I'd find it
a bit clunky. In a way it almost reminds me of Zope's Z SQL Methods,
which I hate.
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Eric Radman wrote:
On 23:09 Tue 01 Feb , Ian Bicking wrote:
BTW, I have written a config parser with WSGIKit in mind, but I
haven't plugged it into anything yet. I described some of the
features here: http://blog.ianbicking.org/2005-01-wsgikit-config.html
I don't think we need
features through
framework-neutral WSGI middleware, so anyone who is interested in Python
framework development and WSGI is very welcome.
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Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
Ian Bicking wrote:
Winston Wolff wrote:
Is anybody here going to be going to Pycon? Care to do a sprint on
Webware?
I'm planning on PyCon and the sprint; I'll be presenting on WSGIKit
(with an emphasis on WSGI and middleware). I have to admit, I get
frustrated these days
back to configuration,
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I'm not sure if Mongoose is multi-thread aware, it looks like its
settings are process-wide, which isn't what I want. But it has some
good ideas -- I like the incident identifier. PyCrash is kind of XMLish
and maybe even Javaish.
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the request. But even then it's pretty small -- parsing the
request is done mostly with the cgi module, and the response is pretty
simple.
Write HTML
This is WebKit.Page, which I was able to move over with little change.
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between threads. More specifically, not to share a database connection
between threads, but instead key them with one connection per thread.
This is how Zope does it, and it gets by pretty well with a threaded server.
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segfaulting, or the entire process becoming wedged), this would handle
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It's kind of tedious, so you'll make libraries, and the libraries become
a framework, and then there you are, you're coding in your new framework
X. If you create a subclass of wsgikit.webkit.wkpage.Page, you've
created a WSGI application, it just also happens to be a Webware servlet.
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. It got really, really bad at one point, and they
said they would fix it, and they did, but only by putting it back in the
somewhat-bad state of being a few hours behind instead of a few days.
But maybe it's getting worse again.
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Winston Wolff wrote:
Where is this repository?
svn://webwareforpython.org/Component ( /LoginKit) -- w4py.org and
webwareforpython.org are the same machine.
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to the inheritance structure of servlets.
It's not that one way is right, it's just in my experience that it's
ended up easier to keep templates separate.
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python expression. The macro system (METAL) is a much better way to
apply styles than including headers and footers.
In the past I've used Cheetah some, but not PSP.
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this functionality, so I thought it should be noted for the benefit of
anyone listening who is accessing databases this way.
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them all.
ZPT is also available separate from Zope, and I've used them a great
deal with Webware, quite successfully I think.
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which isn't to say it's developed super-fast, but I haven't put a ton of
time into it either.
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the exact inner
workings, that it loads some template in RAM and 'parameter
instantiation/substitution' is a memory-only task without file i/o .
If it's fast enough, that's fine. Speed isn't at the top of the
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The current list:
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it or something.
Anyway, XMLRPCServlet is a fairly thin wrapper -- if you read the source
it should be easy to understand. You could use some of the same
mechanism in your servlet without involving xmlrpclib.
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tell me. Right now there's no web-accessible way to revert pages, but
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and emails reports on them?
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have gotten to a form unless they were permitted. You could probably
use sessions in that case as well. Often I do the permission check in
awake(), and use class attributes to define the allowed roles.
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To start up the server on port 8080.
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authentication layer.
BTW, there's a user authentication system in svn://w4py.org/LoginKit
(which also requires svn://w4py.org/Component); I didn't have a chance
to use it much after I developed it, but I've been using it on all my
recent projects, and it's been working well.
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should really be distributed separately. It has very
few dependencies on other pieces of Webware, and would lend itself well
to a distutiled installation.
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. Or, if it fails to find that
(which should be the case), then it will look for a variable with the
same name as the module (i.e., test), and it will call that value to get
an application. Which is what should happen.
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typed
relationships between pages (e.g., page A is a comment on page B, or
page C is an attachment to page D), and some UI changes (using a menubar
look-alike for the Wiki controls).
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, another Debian system, but had no
problems. Whatever the issue, it may not be consistently triggered by
this program.
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Hello Ian-
I am starting to look at your WSGI port of Webware, and I am hoping you
can give me some idea of where to start. What do I need to do to run
it? Are you using it with Apache or with a stand-alone web server?
So far I've used it only with CGI, but it should be
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