Re: [whatwg] Review of the 3.16 section and the HTMLInputElementinterface

2008-05-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Samuel Santos wrote: I don't think this is a valid argument since you can change it anyway [1]. [1] http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html I should note that some consider this a (low priority, low severity) security bug that should just be fixed (e.g. by disallowing opacity styling on

Re: [whatwg] Some media element details

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Antti Koivisto wrote: Some comments about the media elements: 3.14.9.4. Loading the media resource The user agent must then set the begun flag to true and fire a progress event called begin at the media element. The progress event draft calls this event

Re: [whatwg] Some video questions

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Charles wrote: The video element supports width and height. Does this include the additional area needed (if necessary) by the controls? It strikes me that it shouldn't, since it would be odd for the video width and height to change when non-video decorators are

Re: [whatwg] Review of the 3.16 section and the HTMLInputElementinterface

2008-05-15 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On May 14, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Křištof Želechovski wrote: I do not feel like having the file submission control styled and customized in any way; submitting a file poses a serious security and privacy risk so I would not like to see this control disguised as something else. Just like an

Re: [whatwg] iframe width/height

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Henri Sivonen wrote: Shouldn't iframe keep its width and height attributes just like the other embedded content elements? Documents don't have intrinsic dimensions, and the user's default font size is likely to vary from user to usr. How would you know what height and

Re: [whatwg] iframe width/height

2008-05-15 Thread Henri Sivonen
On May 15, 2008, at 12:57, Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Henri Sivonen wrote: Shouldn't iframe keep its width and height attributes just like the other embedded content elements? Documents don't have intrinsic dimensions, and the user's default font size is likely to vary from user

Re: [whatwg] [html5] window.print() undefined

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: What do you guys think about this -- and this is just theoresizing and hypothizing :) Print representation, if defined, should probably not be viewed as the byproduct of the screen presentation. For instance, if script modified DOM properties

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5 - dialog

2008-05-15 Thread Keryx Web
Ernest Cline wrote: The only synonym of dialog that is anywhere near as general seems to be discourse/. And I accidentally replied off list: Discourse is too general. In philosophy and theology a discourse can mean teaching, as in Levinas' discourse about 'the other' has made alterity a

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5 - dialog

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Wilson
Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: My personal favorite alternate suggestion so far has been cl. Yes, I also quite like the analogy with dl/ul/ol. But it may be confusing when using dt and dd as child elements (as in the current spec for dialog): cl dt dd ... /cl That could be resolved by

Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Nicholas Shanks
On 14 May 2008, at 12:11 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2008, Křištof Želechovski wrote: Removing @rev is harmful for Lynx because that is how it decides who the author is. Removing rev= from the spec doesn't preclude Lynx still supporting it for legacy documents, and for new

Re: [whatwg] script charset=

2008-05-15 Thread Toshiro Takahashi
On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:46:32 + (UTC) Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]さん wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Toshirou Takahashi wrote: about 2.12. Scripting http://whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-script interface HTMLScriptElement : HTMLElement { attribute DOMString

Re: [whatwg] Review of the 3.16 section and theHTMLInputElementinterface

2008-05-15 Thread Křištof Želechovski
The method to disguise a file input control as described is and should remain a dirty trick; if the user agent allows it, some add-on should detect it and offer a warning. Allowing semantic customization could be interpreted as encouragement. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] Review of the 3.16 section and the HTMLInputElementinterface

2008-05-15 Thread Jon Barnett
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Boris Zbarsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel Santos wrote: I don't think this is a valid argument since you can change it anyway [1]. [1] http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html I should note that some consider this a (low priority, low severity)

Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Nicholas Shanks wrote: For what it's worth, I always press 'c' before going hunting for a contact address. It usually doesn't work, but that's life I guess. Ian: would it be too much to have the spec say that @rev is valid if and only if its value is made or owner?

Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: I thought the rev attribute was being added back? (Someone... I can't remember who... came on the Microformats mailing list, a while ago, and said something to that effect.) I have no plans to, evidence showed it was causing authors all

Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Křištof Želechovski
Getting suport from Lynx is the easy part; the hard part is to get the supporting Lynx to all those BBS out there. This is very much different from the personal browser the user can control. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian

Re: [whatwg] Review of the 3.16 section and the HTMLInputElementinterface

2008-05-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On May 14, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Křištof Želechovski wrote: I do not feel like having the file submission control styled and customized in any way; submitting a file poses a serious security and privacy risk so I would not like to see this control disguised as something

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5 - dialog

2008-05-15 Thread Ernest Cline
-Original Message- From: Mike Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 15, 2008 8:02 AM To: 'WHATWG' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5 - dialog Yes, I also quite like the analogy with dl/ul/ol. But it may be confusing when using dt and dd as child elements (as in the

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5 - dialog

2008-05-15 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Ernest Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Mike Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 15, 2008 8:02 AM To: 'WHATWG' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5 - dialog Yes, I also quite like the analogy with

Re: [whatwg] Review of the 3.16 section and the HTMLInputElementinterface

2008-05-15 Thread Jon Barnett
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagine that there is a popular mobile device with a Web browser. Imagine further that this browser is widely used, despite having no support for Flash, no support for W3C File Upload, and not even any support for