Re: [whatwg] hashchange only dispatched in history traversal

2008-09-10 Thread Garrett Smith
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Garrett Smith wrote: Please be patient. There are literally thousands of e-mails that will need to be dealt with before yours. I am being patient. There may very well be a list subscriber who has the

Re: [whatwg] RDFa

2008-09-10 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I dare remind you that the recommended place for RDFa-related arguments is the wiki. This is a large topic with various diverging opinions and it is hard to track issues without looping in a mailing list discussion. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wikipage)

2008-09-10 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Go and move that stuff yourself. A wiki is for editing, not for complaining about its content. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [whatwg] Generic

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wikipage)

2008-09-10 Thread Ian Hickson
I wrote: I happened to look over this page just now: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Generic_Metadata_Mechanisms Here is some feedback: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: Go and move that stuff yourself. A wiki is for editing, not for complaining about its content. If I

Re: [whatwg] hashchange only dispatched in history traversal

2008-09-10 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
I think the main problem here is that we want to package two different functions into one event. The legitimate use of hash change where it is used to reveal a bookmark should trigger an event named reveal dispatched to the target anchor and bubbling, where the handler for the Window object can

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wikipage)

2008-09-10 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
You know the problem with the current content is that it is misplaced. I would just move the current content where it belongs, leaving the requirements section empty. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wikipage)

2008-09-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Kristof Zelechovski wrote: You know the problem with the current content is that it is misplaced. I would just move the current content where it belongs, leaving the requirements section empty. Fair enough. I've updated the wiki page. If people who understand this stuff

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wikipage)

2008-09-10 Thread Manu Sporny
Ian Hickson wrote: If people who understand this stuff better could fill in the blanks that would be great. Ian, we'll take some time in the coming months to fill in the details and reorganize the page a bit. What you are asking for is in line with what the Microformats community requires for

Re: [whatwg] hashchange only dispatched in history traversal

2008-09-10 Thread Garrett Smith
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Garrett Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Garrett Smith wrote: and what if you have: body onhashchange=alert(document.body.ohashchange);

Re: [whatwg] hashchange only dispatched in history traversal

2008-09-10 Thread Garrett Smith
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Garrett Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Garrett Smith wrote: and what if you have: body onhashchange=alert(document.body.ohashchange);

[whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-09-10 Thread Sam Kuper
Dear all, In the current HTML5 draft, section 4.4.6 The blockquote elementhttp://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#the-blockquote states, If a blockquote element is preceded or followed by a single paragraph that contains a single cite element and that is itself not preceded or followed by another

Re: [whatwg] Citing multiple blockquote elements in HTML5

2008-09-10 Thread Sam Kuper
Dear all, For some reason, the email set-up I used to send my previous message (Gmail via Chrome) inserted whitespace:pre values into each paragraph's style attribute. Depending upon your email client, this may have rendered my email difficult/unpleasant to read. My apologies for this. Quoted

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wikipage)

2008-09-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Manu Sporny wrote: There will, of course, be many more examples of the problem following the same format as shown above. Is this what you had in mind for the problem description? If so, give us some time and we'll be able to refine that page in the coming months.

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wikipage)

2008-09-10 Thread Julian Reschke
Ian Hickson wrote: ... That's indeed the kind of thing that would be helpful. It's also important to indicate why we think that authors will want to actually indicate the information here. For example, in the music case, do authors want to expose that information, or are we merely hoping they

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wiki page)

2008-09-10 Thread Shannon
I would like to restore the pros and cons. Although they are not as consise as you would like there was still a considerable amount of time put into them and they do reflect the arguments put forward on both sides of the RDF discussions. You are asking for more detail and then removing the

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wiki page)

2008-09-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Shannon wrote: I would like to restore the pros and cons. I just merged the non-obvious ones into the text and removed the obvious ones. (Saying Con: Proposal may be more complex isn't helpful.) I don't think I removed any non-trivial ones, which ones did you have in

[whatwg] HTML vs Plain Text in Notifications

2008-09-10 Thread Dmitry Titov
Hi, I'd like to comment on Notifications part of the spec: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#notifications In short, I think those notifications should be more like a balloon popups or toasts with content rendered by the user agent in HTML form. Currently, they are spec'ed as 3

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wiki page)

2008-09-10 Thread Shannon
Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Shannon wrote: I would like to restore the pros and cons. I just merged the non-obvious ones into the text and removed the obvious ones. Merging pros and cons into the opening paragraph is a poor design choice. It makes it more difficult for

Re: [whatwg] HTML vs Plain Text in Notifications

2008-09-10 Thread Greg Houston
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Dmitry Titov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So instead of: script function callback() { ... } ... window.showNotification(You've got mail!, From: Santa Claus, What's in your

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wiki page)

2008-09-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Shannon wrote: I just merged the non-obvious ones into the text and removed the obvious ones. Merging pros and cons into the opening paragraph is a poor design choice. It makes it more difficult for contributers to flesh out each point without breaking paragraph