Re: [whatwg] % text % and ? text ? in corporate intranet html content

2010-02-12 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:10:32 +0100, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 2/11/10 3:07 AM, Biju wrote: the text inside% and % may contain any number of percentage sign or greater than sign, as long as they dont make a % pair. OK If you see? some text treat it like a HTML comment.

Re: [whatwg] Uploading directories of files

2010-02-12 Thread Ian Hickson
This thread (of which some especially salient points are included below) requested the addition of a feature or the codifying of a convention for uploading directory tree structures in input type=file. I think that including relative directory paths with uploads is a quite reasonable feature.

Re: [whatwg] Removing multiple attribute from input type=file multiple with selected files

2010-02-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, TAMURA, Kent wrote: What should happen to selected files in a case that a user selects multiple files for input type=file multiple and then a script code removes the multiple attribute from the input element? - nothing, no change to the selected files and they will be

Re: [whatwg] validationMessage

2010-02-12 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:05:54 +0100, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Would be great if you could provide a reason why you feel this way. Did the previous messages in the thread not say enough reasons? Ian's

[whatwg] Disable Offline ApplicationCache programmatically?

2010-02-12 Thread Markus Joschko
Hi, I recently studied the Offline Web app section to investigate whether HTML5 is a viable replacement for the gears plugin. Sadly it is lacking a lot of functionality that we need to bring our application offline. Following things I miss most from the spec: 1) Enable/Disable

Re: [whatwg] The examples of the list attribute of the input element is incorrect

2010-02-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Futomi Hatano wrote: There is a example which shows how to mark up fallback contents of the datalist element. p label Enter a breed: input type=text name=breed list=breeds /label datalist id=breeds label or select one from the list: select

Re: [whatwg] keygen tag

2010-02-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Bruno Harbulot wrote: Whilst I'm very supportive of having a key-generation mechanism in the browser, I'm now not entirely sure the keygen tag, at least as a legacy of the Netscape keygen tag, is the correct approach. Indeed. It's only in the spec because that's what

[whatwg] isindex as a parser macro

2010-02-12 Thread Henri Sivonen
Given that all the top 4 engines generate a different DOM for isindex and arguably Gecko (with the old parser) is the most sane, why does the spec align with IE instead of Gecko? Could the spec please align with Gecko (with the old parser)? Problems with the parser macro include: 1) Special

Re: [whatwg] isindex as a parser macro

2010-02-12 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Feb 12, 2010, at 15:49, Henri Sivonen wrote: Problems with the parser macro include: 1) Special memory management cases due to generated attributes (done and broken several times). 2) Form submission changes required (not done yet). 3) Incompatibility with the W3C DOM Level 2 HTML test

Re: [whatwg] validationMessage

2010-02-12 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know of any actual authors who would want to use validationMessage?  If there are any authors here who would want to use the validation API with their own UI, would you want to use validationMessage or write

Re: [whatwg] should async scripts block the document's load event?

2010-02-12 Thread Brian Kuhn
Right. Async scripts aren't really asynchronous if they block all the user-visible functionality that sites currently tie to window.onload. I don't know if we need another attribute, or if we just need to change the behavior for all async scripts. But I think the best time to fix this is now;

[whatwg] Error: Stray doctype.

2010-02-12 Thread Dean Edwards
http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/ -dean

Re: [whatwg] Error: Stray doctype.

2010-02-12 Thread Philip Taylor
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Dean Edwards dean.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/ Oops, looks like a consequence of moving the multipage script to a server with a different version of lxml. Fixed. -- Philip

[whatwg] :valid / :invalid only works in forms

2010-02-12 Thread Erik Arvidsson
At the moment an input element needs to part of a form and have a name attribute for the CSS pseudo classes :valid and :invalid to be applied. [1] These limitations forces people to make their DOM more complicated just to be able to use these pseudo classes. It might have made sense to have these

Re: [whatwg] should async scripts block the document's load event?

2010-02-12 Thread Nicholas Zakas
To me asynchronous fundamentally means doesn't block other things from happening, so if async currently does block the load event from firing then that seems very wrong to me. -Nicholas __ Commander Lock: Damnit Morpheus, not everyone believes

Re: [whatwg] isindex as a parser macro

2010-02-12 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote:  4) Disparity with document.createElement(isindex);  5) Disparity with XHTML. For what it's worth, I couldn't really care less about these two. Making these work isn't a goal to me, people should be using forms instead. /

Re: [whatwg] should async scripts block the document's load event?

2010-02-12 Thread Jonas Sicking
It's a good point. Curious to hear what other people are thinking. / Jonas On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Nicholas Zakas nza...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: To me “asynchronous” fundamentally means “doesn’t block other things from happening,” so if async currently does block the load event from

Re: [whatwg] validationMessage

2010-02-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: I am explicitly opposed to the UA showing validation messages to the user.  I do not think HTML5 should attempt to address use cases where the author wants the UA to show the messages. I strongly disagree. Boilerplate

Re: [whatwg] should async scripts block the document's load event?

2010-02-12 Thread Steve Souders
ASYNC should not block the onload event. Thinking of the places where ASYNC will be used, they would not want onload to be blocked. -Steve On 2/12/2010 11:50 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: It's a good point. Curious to hear what other people are thinking. / Jonas On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10 AM,

[whatwg] @sandbox and navigation top

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Barth
Can a frame in @sandbox ever navigation the top-level frame? If not, that would make it hard to use @sandbox to contain advertisements, which want to navigate |top| when the user clicks on the ad. Adam

Re: [whatwg] @sandbox and navigation top

2010-02-12 Thread Michal Zalewski
Can a frame in @sandbox ever navigation the top-level frame?  If not, that would make it hard to use @sandbox to contain advertisements, which want to navigate |top| when the user clicks on the ad. Ads would want to be able to do that, but user-controlled gadgets shouldn't. I suppose the

Re: [whatwg] @sandbox and navigation top

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Barth
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Michal Zalewski lcam...@coredump.cx wrote: Can a frame in @sandbox ever navigation the top-level frame?  If not, that would make it hard to use @sandbox to contain advertisements, which want to navigate |top| when the user clicks on the ad. Ads would want to