Re: [whatwg] Iframe dimensions

2010-07-06 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 05.07.2010 22:50 schrieb Aryeh Gregor: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Some content from an external specialized content provider is included in an existing web site via an iframe. This cannot be seamless, as the links in the iframe must point to the

Re: [whatwg] Iframe dimensions

2010-07-06 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Thank you and Boris for your examples. I see the security issues. Anyway It would be very helpful in cases like mine, where security and privacy are not affected, to get an easy way to do this opt-in without the need of complex

Re: [whatwg] Iframe dimensions

2010-07-06 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 06.07.2010 12:31 schrieb Aryeh Gregor: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: Thank you and Boris for your examples. I see the security issues. Anyway It would be very helpful in cases like mine, where security and privacy are not affected, to get an easy way to

Re: [whatwg] Resolutions meta tag proposal

2010-07-06 Thread André Luís
G'day, since the discussion is more or less trying to find a solution in the markup realm (which I thoroughly support), I'm gonna focus on Roger's proposal of @dpi. I believe the proposal might work. But assuming you might want to target 3x resolutions on all img the size of the document will

Re: [whatwg] Resolutions meta tag proposal

2010-07-06 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 13:52:24 +0200, André Luís andreluis...@gmail.com wrote: [...] i still prefer the way I suggested earlier, to make img work like the other media tags: video audio, with child source elements that could have either a resolution=96 (per proposal of Roger) attribute or a media

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Marques Johansson
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 13:10, Marques Johansson wrote: For the content that is not protected the download or stream is metered so the client can be charged only for the time they spent watching the content. We error on the

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Marques Johansson
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, 5 Jul 2010, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: The company I work for, VOD.com (sfw) (aka Hotmovies .com and clips .com - nsfw (spaces added)), offer video on demand services to thousands of

Re: [whatwg] what happened to sendAsBinary?

2010-07-06 Thread Toni Ruottu
I was looking at jquery, but I am not sure it works. The problem is that jqeury serializes a web form, where it enters the data in a field. We need to send the binary data alone. --Toni On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:14 PM, narendra sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 30,

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:19:35 +0200, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 13:10, Marques Johansson wrote: For the content that is not protected the download or stream is metered so the

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Marques Johansson
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.comsimetrical%2b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: For my purposes I am interested in application-controlled video delivery. I want to be able to deliver

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Marques Johansson
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:19:35 +0200, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: Is preload=none not enough? I can't imagine the actual bandwidth savings of more fine-grained control to be significant, probably any

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On 6 Jul 2010, at 15:24, Marques Johansson wrote: A 200 response or partial 206 responses that returns less than the full requested range is not handled by browsers in a consistent or usable way (for this purpose). Only Chrome will continue to fetch where the previous short 206 response

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:33:47 +0200, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:19:35 +0200, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: Is preload=none not enough? I can't imagine

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:24:45 +0200, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.comsimetrical%2b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: For my purposes I am

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Marques Johansson
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:24:45 +0200, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: Some UAs request video without sending Range: bytes 0-. The server has no way to negotiate that the UA (a) must use ranges to

Re: [whatwg] HTML Device element status

2010-07-06 Thread James Salsman
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: There are some advantages with input, but overall the design is ugly. input type=file is buffered, which would seem to exclude the possibility of onchange=form.submit() in any of its forms' elements, but is otherwise

Re: [whatwg] HTML Device element status

2010-07-06 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
James Salsman jsals...@talknicer.com wrote: [...] input type=file is buffered, which would seem to exclude the possibility of onchange=form.submit() in any of its forms' elements, but is otherwise parsimonious, while device is its unbuffered counterpart. [...] What about form

Re: [whatwg] Iframe dimensions

2010-07-06 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: My problem is this sentence in the spec for seamless: This will cause links to open in the parent browsing context. In an application like http://test.rapid.ch/de/haendler-schweiz/iseki.html, the external page should be able

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: The benefit to the user is that they could have less open network connections while streaming video from server controlled sites and those sites will have the ability to meter their usage more accurately. Inserting

Re: [whatwg] Iframe dimensions

2010-07-06 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:17 -0400, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote: My problem is this sentence in the spec for seamless: This will cause links to open in the parent browsing context. In an application like

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-06 Thread Marques Johansson
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, The W3C WG for media fragments has published a Last Call Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/media-frags/ . The idea of the spec is to enable addressing sub-parts of audio-visual resources through

[whatwg] Clarification request for charset/characterSet/defaultCharset

2010-07-06 Thread Nicholas Zakas
Hi all, I was just reading through the spec and am having trouble understanding the details of document.charset, document.characterSet, and document.defaultCharset. It seems to me that document.characterSet is simply a read-only equivalent of document.charset (I'm guessing these are both here

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-06 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Marques Johansson marq...@displague.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The W3C WG for media fragments has published a Last Call Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/media-frags/ . The idea

Re: [whatwg] More YouTube response

2010-07-06 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Jul 6, 2010, at 06:19, Marques Johansson wrote: That being said, I don't think the business models of one of the largest online video markets should put be on trial through a by a standards list. Well, if you are suggesting that your use case needs to be addressed by introducing